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EZ SCAM

I think EZ tests are a rip, but not a scam. Its capatilizing from E. Its overpriced but it does a service for those who dont know better. Personally, I use 99% sulphuric acid, it is clear and thick. I test my pills with that chemical only (no formaldahyde or methanol b.s.) and it yeilds accurate results every time. Ive done comparisons and it works just the same as a test kit. I would never by an EZ kit, but for some I guess its good.
 
Um... yeah. Too expensive. Darned thing adds 15 cents to the cost of every pill (assuming you don't get the full 200 out of a bottle).
Totally unacceptable. I mean, that increases the price nearly two thirds of one percent!
Exactly how many pills do you test that the difference is worthwhile to you?
 
i am speaking on the situation in australia, not in america. ok now in australia there is a much much higher percentage of speed like substances in the pills, and it is not uncommon for pills to contain other adulterants such as ketamine. to distinguish between a pill that contains speed and one that contains MDxx is a price worth paying, no matter what % it is.
you spend the money buying the drug, you may as well buy something that is worth the money you paid, and on top of that you have party entrance fees; raving is not a cheap scene, taking any drug has its inherant risks, you may as well ensure they are as minimal as possible.
if you refer to the 'fooling the ez-test' thread, there was a recent pill that tested a typical MDxx reaction. using another reagent, the E2 clearly showed there was no reaction, ie. this pill contained a substance specifically designed to fool the standard marquis reagent.
the point is if you think it is overpriced then dont buy it, try your luck, some idea of what is in it is better than no idea.
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Some more info for this rather interesting post. And by the way I AM A FULLY QUALIFIED CHEMIST (Degree Qualified) WITH VAST EXPERIENCE IN SYNTHETIC HETEROCYCLIC CHEMISTRY, PHARMACEUTICAL R&D, and just about every analytical tool know to mankind. Just for the record! So anyone else out there who wishes to engage in chemical banter - beware, I know when you're full of crap. And I do apologise for sounding full of it, I just want to ensure that people who post chemistry stuff don't pretend to be an expert when they're not. In reality, I'm just an average Joe who speaks the language and has a lot of relevant experience - please don't mistake it for arrogance, I mention it for 'credibility'.
Firstly - AJ - I will lend you the money to patent this if you like. It is TOTALLY CRAP that you invented it. That is a COMPLETE lie, and should not be posted as a fact in this forum. You are misleading the people of Bluelight, and this is unacceptable. You can't patent the product, it's not your invention. It's been around for more than 30 years, and is well published in journals and books. You can't patent 'prior art'. We've had this discussion before. You want the money to try, just ask. You will be laughed out of the patent office. And another thing - did you read the post about the pill that tested positive when it WASN'T MDMA??? I TOLD YOU that other chmicals could turn purple/black and fool the testers, and you didn't mocked me on a Bluelight forum. Perhaps a more experienced tester would have picked it up, but the bottom line is that it can be fooled, and I have a number of OTHER chemicals which are even better that those listed in the post. There will always be false positives and false negatives with any testers. That's why we developed a second one, and that's why the forensic police used about 10 of them. They can be fooled, but when done in parallel, they are far more discriminating. End of bullshit please! You have little credibility in this area (This is not person, it's a 'recalibration' - you do good work, just remember you limitations please, and don't tell me how to suck eggs). I look forward to you wasting your many hours trying to stop Marquis Reagent from going brown, or reacting with your plastics. IT ALWAYS WILL!!!! We've recently launched a new packaging which incorporates a completely inert sealing lid for shipping. You Marquis Reagent will arrive in perfect condition, and you just pop on the dripper cap prior to use. This also means the formaldehyde doesn't escape until you open it and start using it, so it effectively doesn't start the 'expiry clock' ticking until you get it. FABULOUS!! Yay me!
On pricing - Chemical Generation came into this business as a direct result of realising that AUD50 was TOO MUCH to pay for Marquis Reagent. We retail at less than half that price in Australia. We priced it as a reflection of the fact that it is easy to make, and doesn't last all that long. Compared with a typical pill (AUD50), it's reasonable. Mr Quirks - I understand your frustration at having to pay for testing products, but give the governments the hassle, not the people who are trying to help. We are not a charity. Sorry, but I do it for a small return (believe me, I get very well payed elsewhere thankyou very much - this 'job' is a pittance), and I do it to help the 'community', for interest, and use the funds to help further research. In 9 months we've turned out 2 products, third on it's way, dispelled lots of rumours about these products, helped harm minimisation groups, dealt with media, and tried to live a normal life. Pittance is hardly worth this, it's about informing and educating and deriving some intangible sense of contentment.
Your Marquis Reagent is very unlikely to last one year. Don't fool yourself, see our website as to why (www.chemicalgeneration.com.au).
Marquis Reagent, and even sulphuric acid itself, will go brown over time. Without a dripper or anything. It just does, even in glass containers. It absorbs organics, oxidizes the hell out of them, and turns brown.
Sulphuric acid will turn purple with MDMA, but will also turn purple with even MORE chemicals than Marquis Reagent. It is less selective. If you can live with that, then cool. Just remember to cross you fingers as well.
These 'spot tests' CAN give you an indication as to the relative strength of the compound present. Try street cut speed, and the stuff they use to make street cut speed. Quite obviously stronger in reaction. No - not quantitative. Semi-quantitative at best. "Indicative" is the wording.
My recent experience is that people don't just want purple to black. They really want to know 'what' they're taking. Be it 2CB, 2ct7, speed, ketamine, DMA, DMT whatever. We will lead the way in pill and powder testing because of this philosophy. I imagine others will join us in the future.
Fillers and binding agents don't generally react with Marquis Reagent. Fact. You may get a weak response, but not of the order of magnitude as with a true heterocyclic organic compound. You may get fizzing. Big deal!
We didn't originally put the 'blue to purple to black' onto our colour chart for fear that people might not see it (in their tests), and might consider the product ineffective because they didn't see the 'blue' bit. Now that the market is more educated, we will move to the 'blue to purple to black' in future. EZ Test are welcome to join us!
Hope this helps. Hope I haven't upset anyone too much. I will spank anyone who speaks chemistry bullshit, if I happen to see it. I will be devoting more time to direct customers and our website. Contact me if you want any further clarification. I'd be more than happy to help.
BTW - Johnboy speaks many truths, and is highly resourced and knowledgable. We thank him for DONATING his time to help set up pill testing stations in Australia, and suffer the media blitz (which I'm also suffering!!), and probable constabulary attention. Good show and many thanks to you.
Regards,
B.
Chemical Generation
 
I am going to reply to this later this week or weekend and I'll show you what I mean with a brown solution (once I found the plug for my webcam).
aj
 
http://xtctest.com/e-vs-ez.html
Not great quality but clear enough.
Left : E
Right : EZ
The first video shows E and then EZ
The second video shows the previous drops plus a third drop from a rather old EZ Test.
My impression is that E is apparently browner than EZ, EZ seems light yellowish. The EZ reaction is definitely more intense than the E reaction.
I don't mind sending you one or two EZ Tests so you can check it yourself.
According to me, this is a dripper issue. We had the same problem when we released the current test about 1,5 year ago.
Regards
aj
 
Even if those 2 testers were the same age the E tester would have had to endure the postal service without the new postage lids that chem gen speaks of.
 
One tester was a returned tester from the US, some 3-4 months old. One was one month old, not stored cold or dark.
I never liked to point it out (I might get a fierce reaction ??) but the the E dropper (and DS seems to have the same problem) apparently reacts easier to the dropper than our EZ Test dropper. And again, we did have the same problem when our current test came out (1,5 years ago). We noticed the problem (over the course of 1-2 months) and have been experimentting with loads of droppers from various manufacturers. We then filled the bottles, turned the bottles around ( so the reagent is in contant contact with the dropper) and checked what it looked like a few weeks later. Most of them went brown, just one or two droppers made the solution only slightly yellowish. Those droppers we still use and it seems the liquid stays good for a long time.
aj
 
One tester was a returned tester from the US, some 3-4 months old. One was one month old, not stored cold or dark.
I never liked to point it out (I might get a fierce reaction ??) but the the E dropper (and DS seems to have the same problem) apparently reacts easier to the dropper than our EZ Test dropper. And again, we did have the same problem when our current test came out (1,5 years ago). We noticed the problem (over the course of 1-2 months) and have been experimentting with loads of droppers from various manufacturers. We then filled the bottles, turned the bottles around ( so the reagent is in contant contact with the dropper) and checked what it looked like a few weeks later. Most of them went brown, just one or two droppers made the solution only slightly yellowish. Those droppers we still use and it seems the liquid stays good for a long time.
aj
 
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