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Xtatique

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I think $30 seems a bit steep for dilute (100:1) hydrochloric acid.
you can buy 40:1 at your local hardware for 10 bucks a bottle (1 litre).
Just a thought
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EXCUSE ME???
You obviously have no chemistry knowledge regarding drug testing reagents.
So Mr. Smart Ass... What is the chemical composition of "Marquis Reagent", and what are the ratios.
Oh yeah, If you want to go any buy hardware grade sulphuric acid, which I might add is intended as a DRAIN cleaner, go right ahead..
Answer my question
TheGamer
 
WoW, chill out man, no need to take offence.
I think its 90% sulphuric acid and 10% formalide?
And dylute hydrochloric acid can test for the presence of MDMA dunno what colour it goes but it works.
Jees sorry I hit such a nerve.
 
Sorry to go ape shit, but one of the moderators of this forum is aj, he's part of the EZ-Test team.. I was quite upset to the suggestion that you should mix marquis reagent at home.
Also here in the UK, solvents which are sold in hardware stores etc. are dyed PURPLE (especially H2SO4)
Let me rephrase that then
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If you are comfortabe with chemistry (and I apologise, it appears you are), then go right ahead... I just fear the results of a bunch of chemistry-illiterates trying to make their own EZ-Test kits at home..
Guess I did go a bit overboard
Sorry Mate...
TheGamer
[This message has been edited by TheGamer (edited 05 December 2000).]
 
Well, it is not $30 anyway, it comes down to some $17 or $18 (US) and that includes worldwide P&P.
Anyway, we encourage everyone to make tests and distribute them but it is not as easy as you might think.
It involves a lot of dangerous chemicals and some stuff to mix it, keep it (fridges etc.) and more stuff I know nothing about (Michael & Ewoud are the guys putting the liquid together).
I see them sometimes doing that, with masks and strange suits and other funny things.
Anyway, it is good people want to make test kits but it is not as easy as people sometimes think.
aj
 
The smell of formaldehyde will have the neighbors calling the police in no time, and the tools needed to safely mix it with muriatic acid and contain it will run you more than the tester costs.
 
Its conc sulfuric acid, formaldehyde and methanol.
And yes, a person with no chemical knowledge or exp is liable to burn themselves with the acid or keel over from the CH2O.
And formaldehyde is prob rather tough to get.
Its not just the chemicals; its mixing them in the right amounts, the packaging, the storage etc etc.
 
Whats up everyone?
Lets see, you'll pay $20 for a dose, but not pay $30 to test 200 doses? Come on, lives are at stake. Its a very SMALL price to pay...
Peace Out
 
Well for what you get in the EZ test someone must be making some pretty good cash. By the way, they say these tester test 200 pills but really if you can manage to get 200 drops out of that bottle I'll eat my left foot. Like o1o1 said, if it only tested 50 pills it's still a small price to pay.
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We changed it from 200 times testing to 200 drops on our pages.
We agree, 200 times testing is more than comes out (but this will change when the new EZ line comes)
The money thing; this has been discussed here a few times already.
If we were making so much money from it, then I would quit my job.
How about tax ?
How about the money for the creditcard company ??
How about a little office, a computer, phone line and anything that comes with a small business ??
Really, it is not a big deal.
aj (who is still busy with his leaky boat but hopes to be back to the world in 14 days orso)
 
Hello People,Get a grip on the money thing,Look at it this way you are gonna pay at least $25to$30 on one pill,that could either do some serious damage(add up your doctor bills and compare)or take your life!Now which would you rather do Pay a small some of $30.00 or take a costly chance?????????????????????you choose
 
Hey there well i just ordered my Ez tester and hell i pay 14$ to 15$ bucks a bean and would rather spend 20$ on a tester and still be here to enjoy than to bitch about it AJ your guys are great !!!
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Yeah, the dropper....
I am afraid that won't be fixed very soon.
Reason -> other droppers can't stand the reagent. Your test will go brownish over some period of time.
The dropper we have now makes the reagent go slightly yellowish over a longer period of time.
I have seen the droppers from other manufacturers and these cause the reagent to go brownish, sooner or later.
They drop better but if those droppers cause the reagent to go brownish (over a certain period of time) we prefer to keep the dropper we have now.
We have tried many different droppers, except for a few, the reagent goes brown sooner or later.
Anyway, if we stumble into a better solution, we'll try that and if it seems to work, we'll use it.
aj
 
And I might seem like an EZ-test kiss-ass here but in the numbers I buy pills, testing one of a batch for...........ooh let's say one fiftieth of the cost of an EZ-test bottle, for me about £0.20, can save me a f***in' fortune, not to mention my good reputation for knowing what's what round these parts (if anyone wants to shoot me down on that point please do so). Let's say for instance that you do one type of pill a week - that's too many in my personal opinion but you can't stop people doing what they want to do- so you will then have your EZ-test bottle for one year (assuming fifty tests a bottle) and it will have cost you £0.20 a week or $0.30 a week and saved you how much on dodgy pills?
The market isn't that big for these things (we are a social minority, believe it or not) and the laws of supply and demand say that if more people use the things the price of them should go down as the market becomes more competitive. Stop whining and munch those pills which could have anything in them if you believe that's better for you and get off the backs of the people who sell a product which you do not have to buy if you don't like the cost.
Intelligent flaming appreciated if you find it necessary.
 
I agree with Paddyboy... yes, I know I sell EZ-Test kits, but the point being that regardless of the price (unless it jumps to like £50 a kit) it is an invaluable tool to the pill user..
If you think its too expensive, don't buy one... Just please, I don't want to see any posts from people going... I landed in the hospital because I munched 10 of these new beanz that were supposed to be wicked, and I almost died..
Put it this way - Its your own damn fault if you're on this board, and can see how important it is to test your pills, and decide not to get a kit, and as well, its your own fault if you take too many, and get sick... You SHOULD know better, being on bluelight and all..
(This wasn't actually directed at anyone, just making a statement
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TheGamer
 
I tottally agree that ez is a scam. I've worked, in my own drug lab, with lots of acids and formaldehyde. H2S04 is nasty but why would mixing it with a touch of formaldehyde be any more dangerous then using it to clean drains? The hardware store stuff is colored because of the decomposition of the H2SO4, not dye. Any dye would likely be consumed by the acid. And sure you can get formaldehyde, order it online for embalming animals or something. It doesn't stink that much either although a lot of it will make you sick (but you get better). It works with just plain sulphuric acid too, you don't even need formaldehyde.
The marquis reagent was designed to test pure substances, pills are a mixture of lubricants, filler/starch, drug. Because of this, the m.r. will give alot of flase positives and false negatives. Number of false results = false pos. + false negs. What really bothers me is that ez seems to represent it as something designed to testpills. bull.. And did I hear somewhere they pateneted something? Give me a break..
I think there should be somekind of effort to start a do-it-yourself very accurate qualitative testing at home project. Something with off the shelf or nearly off the shelf materials. Focus on melting points and tlc.
 
Well, since I produce TLC kits for this purpose, I will agree that TLC is a good option, but marquis reagent is a viable option for what it was created for... does the sample contain any ??
TheGamer
 
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