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Eyeballing mgs - similar eyesize for each substance?

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DrEIMiller

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The scale thread got me wondering....
After tinkering with 5-meo-dipt for quite a bit, in other words sitting in a chem lab weighing out 1000mg in 7.5 mgs little caps, I think I became quite good at eyeballing the stuff. In fact, I could usually just use one of those chem scoops and dump +/- 2mgs (usually) (but damn, don't breath on those scales - those fuckers are sensitive).
Anyways, the question is, say I was an "expert" in eyeing 5-meo-dipt in 7.5 mg amounts. Would let's say 2ct7 look the same size? Or whatever substance? Or would the material density be different enough for each substance to be just a little too far off?
 
"Or would the material density be different enough for each substance to be just a little too far off?"
if it's just the slightest bit different, i wouldn't take the chance. don't mess with fire and it won't burn you [weigh out the 2ct7 don't eyeball it.. cause for all we know if is 50x more dense (obviously not the case but...) than the 5meodipt and then you'll eyeball the t7 out and end up injesting 375mg of 2ct7 or something.
 
You could, however - look up the density of the two specific substances beforehand and check how similar they are.
But since you appear to have some pretty good scales anyway, I wouldn't bother. Just weigh it for safety's sake.
 
you mean a scoopula?
those are fun. and easy to steal. my crackheads do not trust me when i say they're useful for transferring things, though. naw, you use credit cards, yo!
eyeballing mgs-- yeah, you can do it. after a while of weighing small amounts of things, a while a milligram doesnt seem like such a large amount. when i weigh things, i always look at how much powder there is, and remember "42 mg looks like that"... just to get an idea for eyeballing when necessary.
the densities of most chemicals is available in the merck index, or if not there, then in the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics (which, unlike the merck, seems to be practically unknown to people who aren't into legitimate chemistry. CRC has a really annoying index, though. they name things like this:
cyclohexanone, 2-(2-chlorophenyl)-2-(N-methylamino)
anyway... really, most organics have similar enough densities that you *probably* won't kill yourself eyeballing, provided you're fairly good at it. as in, if the pile "looks" like 2 mg but is really more dense than you thought, it could be 5 mg or 6 mg but it won't be 20. inorganics are different. stannous chloride and powdered magnesium are *heavy*. but then, what use do you people have for powdered magnesium? =)
cyclohexanone, 2-(o-chlorophenyl),
 
Practice makes perfect.
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"All the bad boys/are standing in the shadows/And all the good girls/are home with broken hearts."
-Tom Petty, "Free Falling"
 
Here are some 'eyeballing' tips.
Start low for each substance when dosing and learn to eyeball to effect. In other words, start with a very small bump, and work your way up. This method requires no scale and is catered to your individual sensitivity.
Remember that fine powder and larger pieces of crystal vary quite a bit in density. Do not trust your eyeballs from one powder to another. Treat each one as a separate standard.
If your scale is not very accurate to 0.001 g (like a deering scale), tare out with a coin by putting a dime on it, record the weight, then weigh your powder on top of it and subtract. This avoids the inaccuracies found at the bottom end of your scale.
Another way to get to small dosages without a scale is to weigh down to the lowest accurate weight (say 100mg), then pack powder into a line on a mirror with a razorblade, and then cut it into equal portions amounting to the desired dose (ie- 10 piles of 100mg = 10mg each). This technique can be verified after packing into capsules by comparing the level of each.
 
20mg of 2ct7 looks pretty much like 35mg of 2ct7.
In many cases, that variation can make the difference between the perfect trip, and eternal hell.
Dont risk it with compounds that are active in the low milligram range. You are only asking for disaster.
Happy Trails,
DrWild
 
If you really want to know if you're good at eyeballing, you should try to eyeball a dose of lsd (crystals)
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[This message has been edited by TheDJ (edited 12 July 2001).]
 
I've never done anything where a few milligrams too much could spell disaster. But, I did have a weird dream a couple of nights ago where I was going to try T7 and the person measuring it out said he didn't have a scale and would just eyeball it. I wasn't too happy about that and didn't end up doing it. Guess you could say I'm not too trusting of other people's eyes when it comes to some of these research chemicals.
 
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