Benzos Extended Use of Benzodiazepines For Insomnia

[Jktm]

By much higher risk of death, do you mean risk of suicide?

Also, I've tried "rubbing one out," if you will, and even when my shit does work, it's often painful, and rarely has any effect on my ability to fall asleep.

 

[tricomb]

By much higher risk of death, do you mean risk of suicide?

Also, I've tried "rubbing one out," if you will, and even when my shit does work, it's often painful, and rarely has any effect on my ability to fall asleep.

Nah I mean you're at a higher risk of accidental (as for intentional, I can't speak on that) overdose due to your history with mixing CNS depressants, and your recent overdoses, etc.

How is it painful? I think you're not doing it right lol. Slow down.

 

[Jktm]

I have urological problems...Varicocele in particular...when I finish it often feels as though something shoots into my right testical...

And I know...famous last words, but "I know my limits." If I die because of an overdose it will be intentional...and I never overdosed when I took all that stuff.

I blacked out (only because of the quetiapine), but I never vomited or anything. My sister checked my breathing before the EMS was called, and she's even said to me that she knew that I would have woken up and been completely fine.

I mean I was telling the EMT, "NO! NO NARCAN!"

To which he replied, "Yup, you're getting narcaned" and ripped my BuTrans patch off.

The only way I would unintentionally OD would be if I were to continue to take more drugs after blacking out.

 

[Mona Lisa]

pregabalin, 200-300 mg works wonders for me, far more so than zopiclone, valium or etizalom.

 

[Jktm]

I was still having insomnia issues while I was Rx'ed 450mg of lyrica a day.

TCA's don't work on me (probably from being on flexeril for a year and a half) either.

 

[brighton]

have you tried melatonin?

 

[Jktm]

Yup, I tried up to 9mg despite knowing that there's really no clinical significance beyond 3mg.

At one point, I was taking 9mg melatonin, 200mg of quetiapine, and 300mg of DPH, to get 4 hours of sleep, if I got any.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

any sources to back this up? if i could be really sure about this i'd go back to daily therapeutic benzo use rather than struggling to get through constant panic attacks.

for OP: have you tried taking 50-75mg of diphenhydramine (higher doses will keep you awake and restless) and a lower dose of a hypnotic? I do 50mg-75mg of dph along with 3.75 mg of zopiclone and if i'm not too high or caffeinated i can usually get to sleep and stay there. I've had insomnia my whole life as well and it has kind of defined my existence so i know what it's like. Without the zopiclone i will have a massive panic attack every single night when i go to sleep and it is shit to live like that. It just relaxes me and takes away bedtime anxiety so i can fall asleep, doesn't really sedate me.

Sleep hygiene is also very important as is adjusting your daily schedule so that is more in line with your natural cycle.

Anxiolysis happens to me from taking 30mg of valium a day and a .5 xanax PRN when I have that extra annoying panic attack that feels like going through that much valium, but its rare. It has happened to me constantly since I take benzos everyday, ie 2007. Some of us have been into situation or seen things so fucked up that we do need benzos all our lives, I also have been like OP, even when I was a relatively normal kid with just a bit of add that went mostly unmedicated until i hit college and never really done drugs cept weed a couple times bfore college, it's just this kind of personality where you scrutinize your body all the time for disease + get very distressed in this post 911 world. Those who live close enough from New York are all pretty traumatized by this, if you are from my generation anyway, it felt like a big fuck you to all of us who hit adulthood then, warning us that we wouldn't have easy like our parents at all.

Without these medications I'd be dead now, so they are a lifesaver and I will endure the little lowering of IQ it comes with, studies show the smarter the unhappier, I'm a good indication of this if I go by what others, family and society seemed to see for me in the future. But yeah anyway the anxiolysis remains and the tolerance to that does go verrry slowly up, while the body massage muscle relaxant effect goes away fast, so does falling asleep unconscious of having gone to bed and maybe those silly things people end up doing on medium to high doses of benzos for a while while not remembering them (I've never done anything dumb I can attribute to benzos all this time, why am I like this? I don't know. The amnesic effects go away pretty fast too unless one is mixing a lot of different benzos and downers.

Be careful.