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PhreeX

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Reading the posts in the announcement forum, it seems that some people don't like the way this forum is ran - so, I am asking for input - HOW can this forum improve?
Don't be a little bitch and flame, we all know I am a cock sucking asshole who should have a belt sander taken to my nuts, but lets use this thread to be CONSTRUCTIVE ..
What DON'T you like? What would YOU change if you were in charge? What policies DON'T you like?
MODERATORS - I am asking that you abstain from making ANY negetive comments about peoples sugestions..
Also, we are only a few days away from the launching of.. well, I will let it be a surprise ..
So to all those who HATE ME and the way this forum is - rather then bitch, give your input!
The entire "no sources" rule was implemented after several forum members suggested it.. believe it or not, we are not as bad as you think, we simply have to maintin order..
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'"
 
Well, I think it's going pretty good, especially compared to a couple times in the past...
Things to fix?
--Hmm, well, moderators should all have available emails listed if they request people to email them
--I actually think too many posts have been closed recently. If a GOOD post is going (compared to a lot of hte babble) for christsake keep it open.
--What's the deal with drug experiences? Are they not allowed? Seems since the opening of "Trip Reports" they're not wanted. Might want to make this policy clear (they ARE in the title).
--The only REALLY (bad) thing is the amount of repeated posts. I.E. coming on and seeing 3-4 active posts all asking how much adderall to take. But it's hard to deal with that with no search engine
--If someone asks a legit question, as asinine as it may be, please don't just type in http://www.erowid.org and lock the thread. Some people don't mind offering help/advice, even if it has been said a thousand times before. Giving references is fine, but keep the thread open. Maybe i'm just in a stupor, but it seems this has happened a few times recently.
Other than that, good.
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"Only what already is can really be accomplished"
 
The only suggestion I would make is that maybe you could delete offending posts from a thread rather than closing the entire thread....sometimes a good thread gets shut for the sake of a few needless flames or idiotic comments.
Other than that...everything's cool
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Everybody asks yer name
they say you're all the same
so now it's nice one, Geezer
and that's as far as the conversation went
 
Very good! Keep it comming ..
I like the idea of modifying the other drugs title - this forum was created BEFORE trip reports existed, so I will ask the admin to change it as so it may reflect what we are really all about - suggestions?
And the bitches are in the IRC channel!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'"
 
ive always liked this forum. i see nothing wrong with any name calling, if it happens. if you tell people to shut up, people are usually scared away from asking stoopid questions that they could have answered themselves with other resources.
no sources is dandy.
thats it. wait - what the deal with connecting to the irc channel? how it go? i have a client, ect. i take it its mad 1337! hahaha. (less people at least i assume?)
I pity the fool
[This message has been edited by thinctwo (edited 04 May 2001).]
 
My only comment was something I raised in other threads (Phreex slamfest in Webmaster& Admin, and just a sec ago in OD's This Thread to be Locked http://www.bluelight.ru/ubb/Forum19/HTML/007046.html?reload=6 - sorry, saw it before this one).
My big concern is the simple questions, the ones anyone should know and not be asking. This seems to be the attitude given to a lot of questions that ~some~ people just don't want to answer for the 100th time. I agree with leaving it open, let the other forum members answer if a mod doesn't want to. Additionally, create a topic thread to cut down on the multi-thread-on-one-topic syndrome. For example - create a thread called ADDERALL, then let that discussion flow (perhaps becoming a mini-FAQ later). Lock and refer any other posts to that one. Hell, to keep it less cluttered, can you delete and refer (via email, I suppose)?
Just my two cents. I like the forum, and understand the heavy hand that has been used to moderate it lately. Things seem to be improving, but a request for improvements is a great idea that might be brought up again periodically - especially when the mods are catching so much flack (*gives thumbs up to Phreex*).
Also on the upside, no sources is a must. Changing the title/sub-title is a good idea.
[This message has been edited by TheLoveBandit (edited 04 May 2001).]
 
IMO
The od forum should be stricter, if a person (greenlighter) is making annoying posts or is acting childish or is not willing to accept the fact people are going to use drugs they resent their account should be deleted.
For example people that DO know their stuff but are whining about people shooting smack or snorting shit or whatever, they get their post locked then get all pissed off and say 'I'm a contribution to this board I know stuff, I'm just giving advice blablabla', IMO their accts should be deleted because they don't know anything that we can't find on erowid or that we can't hear from another non-annoying, non-whining person.
Also less t7 and oxycontin posts and more room for hypothetical stories (How to rob a pharmacy e.g.) and serius drug discussion.
Also PhreeX DO something with this information, this isn't the first thread you opened asking how we think this forum should be improved but each time it just ends up with all the other long-forgotten posts.
--psionic
Please don't take any offense from this post, I have nothing against greenlighters in general but I do have something against kandy ravers, plur preachers, self-righteous drug users (I used to be one) and canadians.
(jk)
Yes one more thing, I agree; change the title, also thumbs-up to the mods you've been doing quite a good job.
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[This message has been edited by Psionic (edited 04 May 2001).]
 
Personally, I think this forum is pretty decent now. I've tried asking questions in other forums, but usually the level of response is little to nil, and the few responses I do get are of VERY poor quality.
I do agree repeated questions do become annoying, especially when the same question appears once a day for like a week. Without the search engine it is difficult to deal with, but it seems most of the repeated questions are dosage questions.
Perhaps a FAQ could be created. I know that dosage varies from person to person, and that PhreeX's dosage of morphine would probably kill me. But if we made it clear in the FAQ that the dosages are for novices (usually the people asking the questions anyhow) I think it'd be a good starting ground. Once a person has a feel for the drug and with RESEARCH done on their part they will be able to make better informed choices concerning dosing in the future.
Also, upon reading the Mod bashing post, perhaps a FAQ concering IVing certain drugs. I know it would be impossible to TEACH someone how to IV over a message board, but some standard information and cautions might be useful.
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I live to learn and learn to live.
[This message has been edited by DJ Wannabe (edited 04 May 2001).]
 
I believe to limit some of the mulitiple posts there should be for example Adderall Q and A... K Q and A, etc etc..They should be bumped at all times so people can ask their questions and respond..after awhile the threads will probably get very big but it could help from muliple posts. I'm not saying do this for every drug but just the ones you see a lot of threads for everyday,with similiar questions
 
As a greenlighter (i think i still am one) i think it would be helpful to have a BIG banner or something, and some commentary below it for all other greenlighters, to erowid. This would help inform any new person about erowid who just got on the board, and can answer almost all of the questions posted on this board.
 
Obviously we're not all going to agree on what should and should not be in the forum.
My thoughts are the following:
--stupid questions SHOULD be locked and/or deleted, with nothing more than a referring link (such as erowid)...I don't feel that this is the proper forum to ask questions like "what is k?"...such basic information can be found all over the net and really just takes up space here.
--a FAQ really is essential...this should contain a slew of information as well as links that have more in depth information...creating a FAQ helps limit the number on inane questions.
--I disagree with Psionic in that I feel any questions having to deal with things like "How to rob a pharmacy" should be locked. Come on, robbing pharmacies...what next, beat up the little squirrelly kid for his ritalin?
--I don't think general topic threads for drugs like xbeenfeen suggested would become too cumbersome as the topics created in such a thread would be too huge and in order to figure out whether there's any substance to recent posts you'd have to open the thread first, rather than just scanning subject headers to choose what to read or not read.
Just my .02, not trying to offend anyone.
 
I like everything the way it is and I stand by the "no suppliers" rule .. I would have to go with what The Love Bandit said: "Additionally, create a topic thread to cut down on the multi-thread-on-one-topic syndrome. For example - create a thread called ADDERALL, then let that discussion flow (perhaps becoming a mini-FAQ later). Lock and refer any other posts to that one."
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Bunt: Sorry I kind of choose the wrong words.
First of all I don't mean questions about it but how-to's and FAQ's
Also maybe PhreeX's scripting (How to get pharmaceuticals or something) stories are a better example of what I'd like to see more.
Sorry for the poor choice of words, I'm a bit vague and hazy at the moment.
Oh yeah and I'm dutch :p
But I repeat I don't mean those stupid 'How to get your dog high' questions/stories but well written information for the hardcore drug user.
sorry if I still don't make any sense.
--psionic
 
Hmm, well, moderators should all have available emails listed if they request people to email them
Click to expand...
If you look at the top of the topics list page, you'll see a list of all the Moderators for the forum. Their name is also a link to their e-mail address.
But since so many people can't seem to figure this out, and I'm assuming this comment was directed to moi, I'll gladly make the necessary changes.
 
In the works is a MASSIVE FAQ on "Research Chemicals" - this is being worked on by myself and several others, so yes, these things take time... once this FAQ is released there will be NO MORE posts regarding T-7 ... the OxyContin FAQ is in it's final stages...
I have some things I will try to impliment ASAP!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'"
 
I really like the idea of having a large banner refering people to Erowid. Kinda like the PILLREPORTS.COM thing in a couple of the other forums. As far as moderating goes, I think the strictness keeps the quality of responsives high. SOme people may be aggrevated by it but it really raises the quality of educational information that is passed around here. And considering the properties and amount of chemicals we deal with this is of paramount importance.
I agree that sometime there may seem like there are a million post in a month about the same thing, but i think its important to remember that not everyone gets to read this board everyday and thus may not see the million pasts posts.
Just my .02 cents.
All in all good fuckin job guys!!
 
i like this forum quite a bit, it's helped me out a few times and is subject to a lot of interesting and informative discussion (of course, it's more subject to redundant boring discussion). The only real problem I have with it are the flamers; if somebody posts a stupid question they obviously don't realize that's it's stupid. Why give them shit? Nobody chooses to be uninformed, you had to ask stupid questions too once in your life because you have to know the answers to them sooner or later. If you don't like somebody's question, don't answer. If somebody posts something stupid, and it gets 0 answers the person will still get the message but it will also make the thread go away a lot faster, clearing the way for better posts.
and yeah, deleting individual posts would be better than locking the thread. I can't help but feel that the mod's are going a bit overboard with it when I come in here and see half a dozen locked threads that weren't there the day before. But don't just make the offending post dissapear into thin air, just have the actual message changed to something like "This message was deleted" so that if ppl like me say something stupid without realizing it, and it gets dissapears, i might go back on later and be like "wow, i guess i didn't reply to this thread like I thought" because with my memory there's no telling, and then i'll just post the same message again. later i might figure it out and feel stupid, but i'd rather save myself the trouble
anyway, my 2cents
 
i would like to see a section just for ?'s to the mods category. there are times when i have a simple ? for phreex or another mod that requires an one sentence answer that i would like to ask. this way i wouldn't have to bog down the board or deal with 1/2 truths from peole who don't know better.
 
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