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Ever thought about giving up rolling?

Its both the shitty pills and the shitty feeling that make it not seem worth it. I llove rollin at shows, but i like remembering them and Honestly sometimes i think i have more fun just ragin out and letting the music get me high. but thats just me and im sure ill roll again except maybe just keep it to molly.
 
I hope you feel better rollin420girl. You won't feel that way forever, I promise. Just take care of your body and do things that make you happy. A walk outside on a beautiful day with my ipod does wonders for me, I feel it could do the same for you. Take care.


And to answer the question..Yes, its crossed my mind before, but not ever anymore. Maybe it's silly to say, but I don't plan on ever giving up MDMA. I feel I do it in a smart and safe manner while taking the appropriate vitamins and breaks. I honestly believe that if you can respect the drug, then it will respect you.
 
Man, anyone who tells you ecstasy isn't one of those addictive drugs is lying. The depressed feelings finally went away, but I still feel like I have this craving for E. But I'm fortunate. My friends aren't big-time rollers. They roll very very rarely. In fact, as much as they love it, they really don't have desires to do it again. So I'm just going to follow their lead. If the opportunity comes up, I'll roll. If not, that's fine, too. But I'm not going to push it or try to find pills or anything. I have a feeling they'll roll again. But it may be months from now, maybe a year. And that's fine with me. I just believe that's what's best for me. :) Thanks so much for all your help, everyone.
 
I will stop rolling when the cons outweigh the pros. They don't right now and don't seem like they will in the foreseeable future.
 
rollin420girl said:
Every time after I roll, during the days when I'm in a complete shitty depressed mood, I think to myself that I never want to roll again. I love it so so so much, and I'm responsible about it, I space it out and everything. But I just don't know if it's worth feeling like this. I almost feel like this is worse than my normal depression. :( I just want my normal seretonin levels back. Have any of you ever thought about giving it up because of the post-rolling feelings?
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I think it's about moderation and timing. Back in the day when I was admittedly abusing, I often felt trapped and can empathize with the feeling of never wanting to roll again...especially during the worst part of the come down.

Now that I've become reasonable and responsible about using MDMA, I find that there might be a very short period during the come down when it doesn't seem appealing to me, but overall and even as little as one day after using I find that I vary anywhere from feeling neutral to thinking it would be great to roll again sometime.
 
Sure. Every time I'm on a prolonged break, I feel like quitting.
Then an event or party comes up, and I'm on it again.
 
I gave up rolling because I got to the point of dropping 6 at once and not being satisfied enough. Dnt get me wrong I was rolling hard, but it seemed to have something missing, like I would always expect a better high then the last roll and it never was any better. I had kidney pains all the time and couldnt tell when I was sober or on a comedown.
Ecstasy now would only be a special occasion drug to do with a crowd.
Moderation sounds perfect
 
yea i havent rolled or taken any psychadelics in over 3 years and I am much more mentally stable and happy than ive been since i started taking drugs.
 
rollin420girl said:
Okay...this is a problem. It's going to be two weeks since my last roll tomorrow. And I'm STILL majorly depressed. The last times I've rolled, the depression only lasted two days...three tops. But this....I don't know what to do. :( I just want to roll again. I want to be that happy. But that's the wrong reason to be doing it...I don't want to be like that. I don't want to be using drugs to feel better...it's just not right. I don't know what to do I don't have the money to get professional help...plus my parents won't let me....and I don't really want to be seeing a shrink anyway. Any suggestions? :( I'm not saying I'm going to do anything bad or anything. I just feel like I'm in a slump. How do I get out of it? I've tried keeping busy, and exercising. But I still feel so blue. I've also been very stressed with school, and my friends are working a lot lately so I've been really lonely. So maybe that has something to do with it...but IDK. Any suggestions though?
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It sounds like your sad wether you take pills or not. I dont think its entirely the pills. Iv'e had bad trips on 5 year old 2CE chemicals with nitrous and i was so messed up for a month, I couldnt even enjoy music, I just felt weird and awkward. It took me a long time to get out of it but when I finally got over it, I seen alot of it was all in my head. And this experience made me a stronger person.
 
Give up Rolling ... Hell No !!

If the comedowns are a worse experience than the high - you doing too much and or too often. What other drugs are you taking with the MDMA? Amps are well known to give some users a bad comedown but I found that s p a c i n g out your rolls - staying hydrated when rolling and 5htp etc really helps with the mid week blues etc
 
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Give up Rolling ... Hell No !!

If the comedowns are a worse experience than the high - you doing too much and or too often. What other drugs are you taking with the MDMA? Amps are well known to give some users a bad comedown but I found that s p a c i n g out your rolls - staying hydrated when rolling and 5htp etc really helps with the mid week blues etc
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I agree with this. Stay hydrated, take vitamins and eat healthy and rolling shouldnt take too heavy of a toll on your body. Def doing too often will shorten the good rolling aspects and bring out the negatives. I used to get really bad psychosis when id roll all the time. And id never feel like eating and always tired and out of energy. Almost felt like I was dying till i got the nutrients my body needed. Always, always be safe. And have fun of course!! : )
 
I've never had a bad roll yet, so I don't really see myself quitting. It's like when I hung out with my bestie a bit ago and we smoked hella cigarettes and drank a little. I felt like garbage after that thus I will know for next time to do less of both. I roll so infrequently that it does not seem to be a problem for me. I eat and sleep and make sure i'm not working the next day so I can rest and afterward i'm completely fine.

I've learned to, this is going to come out wrong but, cope with my emotions in general. Work used to depress me until I realized that the quality of my work did not depend on the mood I was in at work. Mad or sad I do the job as best I can. Same thing with every other aspect of my life. This mindset helps me view feeling like crap and the emotions that come with that as only temporary states to be left behind.
 
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hey Bluelighters - great question OP, I believe that the majority of MDMA users are constantly somewhere in that cycle of using and then considering whether to continue in ecstasy use. Makes sense doesn't it? If your gonna ride the roll train we can expect to encounter all these issues

I'm thinking about stopping but theres an event coming up and I've got it in my head that I'm going to be rolling at it. Now Sat is just a few days away and I don't have very reliable connexs - seems like the whole valley is dry or peddling Piperzine - am I gonna score some rolls... WOW is this all part of the experience of MDMA use. It's super sketchy!! And all these things pile up and make you say: Is all this worth it?

Watch Small Town Ecstasy - the three major MDMA users in the film are all going through this... How recreational can MDMA use be when you have to go through so much bullshit to enjoy it?

*BTW I did just watch Small Town Ecstasy for the first time last Sat... its had me thinking alot about all this since - everyone should see this show - sorry if I'm newbing out here! - Just my 2 cents!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x75sop_small-town-ecstasy-part-1_lifestyle
 
Never. I've rolled about a dozen times since new years and I've never had a bad comedown or depression. Only some fatigue after a long night of dancing...
 
I don't feel that I have a crash after I do Molly.
If anything I'd just have a bag of weed incase I feel bad, and usually I don't unless I take pills and who knows what's in there...

I just feel happy the next day because of the experience and the afterglow and what MDMA leaves me with personally, so I wouldn't abuse it as that ruins the sensation of the high, and I don't get a crash as it just gives me good memories :)
 
I always have wonderful afterglow as well, and positive feelings the whole day haha :)
 
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