Euro MP's call to legalise heroin

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CALLS to legalise the sale of all drugs – including heroin – by the Liberal Democrat Euro MP who represents Macclesfield have been rejected by the Home Office.

Chris Davies, who represents the North West in the European Parliament, says that creating a regulated market is the only way of stopping drug money going into “the pockets of criminals and funding terrorist activities”.

His views are in direct opposition to his party leadership, which opposes legalisation and the Home Office rejected his call, claiming the move would lead to a “significant” increase in drug use.

But Mr Davies, who was once arrested while protesting in support of Stockport “cannabis cafe” owner Colin Davies, denied his policy would be a green light to people to take more dangerous and addictive drugs.

He said making the drugs illegal simply allows criminals to make millions by supplying them, leaving the taxpayer a huge bill for keeping users and suppliers in jail – cash he says would be better spent on rehabilitation.

Mr Davies said: “Taking a small percentage of the drugs off the market simply forces up the price, adding to the already vast profits made by the traffickers and providing a stronger financial incentive for others to get involved. It’s a vicious circle.

“Far from preventing the use of illegal drugs, prohibition creates the profits which drive the growth of the trade.

“It leads to the corruption of our institutions and provides funds for terrorism.

“Taken in excessive quantities, all drugs are dangerous and no one wants a free for all, but many of the problems stem directly from the criminality involved.

“At present, drug users can never be entirely sure what they are putting in their bodies.”

But the Lib Dems have distanced themselves from Mr Davies’ comments. A spokesman said: “This is certainly not a party policy.”

A Home Office spokesman said: “The Government has no intention of legalising the recreational use of any currently-controlled drug. While our drug laws cannot be expected to eliminate drug misuse, there is no doubt that they do help to limit use and deter experimentation.”

First published by the Macclesfield Express

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Published: 24th August 2005
Euro MP's call to legalise heroin

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My god an MP talking sense!

Shame the rest of them have their heads so far up their arses they think he's talking bollocks, but at least it's a step in the right direction.
 
Crazeee said:
While our drug laws cannot be expected to eliminate drug misuse, there is no doubt that they do help to limit use and deter experimentation.
In other words, fewer users are preferred over fewer deaths. Let the people who want to use drugs risk killing themselves as long as it decreases the probability of my son/daughter trying drugs. 8)
 
I think MPs and influential politicians just have to repeatedly push this issue. The only way that cannabis policy has got anywhere in places like Canada and Holland has been through damn hard work and a lot of lobbying. Eventually the statistics will speak for themselves as social experiments in places like Holland start to really show results.
 
“Taken in excessive quantities, all drugs are dangerous and no one wants a free for all, but many of the problems stem directly from the criminality involved.

at least things liek this are being suggested in international politics. its a big step imo.
 
Persistance is the key, as the past has shown. Doesn't mean it will be any easier, but at least it's a start. Time for some stateside attempts.
 
After the polar ice caps have melted and flooded half the world there will be a new fresh sane world lets hope (for our children/grandchildren)
 
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yah and kevin costner with gills in it :P

cool mp though sad to see these people don't get any positive attention from the media , fellow politicians or the masses
 
It would seem that no one in the gvmt seems to remember the failed experiment that was alcohol prohibition. And if they do remember, no one learned a damn thing from it. I personally have a theory that the alcohol lobby has a strong precense in congress, and, of course, is VERY against the legalization of drug sales. Can you imagine the impact that would have on the alcohol industry? I would be willing to be that booze sales would drop at least %50. If not more. If it weren't for the booze lobby, I think that at least cannabis would be as legal as alcohol. Can you imagine (I bet many of you could ) walking down to your local store and picking up a few oz's of good, gvnt grown pot? I think that this concept scares the hell put fp the acohol co.s...
 
Ahem. Excuse me but "fear of terrorism"? Am I missing something here? Is this "fear of terrorism" not a very real thing? By calling it a "fear" of terrorism, you are implying that this terrorism issue is being played out to be larger than it really is.

Shouldn't it be addressed as the "threat of terrorism"? I'm sorry, but people driving planes into the biggest skyscrapers in the biggest city in North America, that does not scare you? People packing bombs onto subways in England's capital... that doesn't scare you? People blowing up civilians in Spain's capital... doesn't scare you? A whole organization of people who's political agenda is to kill everyone unlike them doesnt scare you?

It does not strike any discomfort in you that there exist a large group of people who are deliberately aiming to kill and inflict pain on not just people, but children and women? People who intentionally want to kill those who are not the same religion? People who say if they accidentally kill those of their religion, it's okay, because their god will sort them out?

God damn. You must be invincible or something.

Anyways.... sounds like a good message. People should be spreading around this kind of thing. Perhaps you or I think that drugs are terrible and blah blah blah, but many people are not educated on what the alternatives are. I don't think people realize on what level and how crime is related to just simple drug illegalization.

One thing that really urks me about my drug usage is what if I was supporting terrorists. Yes, I realize that my money spent toward whatever may be so small to terrorists, maybe even half of a half of a penny in all my lifetime... but.....

How would you feel knowing that half of a half of a penny of yours went to funding the terrorist attack on NYC. Or London. Or anywhere for that matter?
 
A whole organization of people who's political agenda is to kill everyone unlike them doesnt scare you?

yeah, but the PNAC has been around for so long, i'm kinda used to them by now... ;)

It does not strike any discomfort in you that there exist a large group of people who are deliberately aiming to kill and inflict pain on not just people, but children and women?

yes, it does. but despite the many, many letters i have written to the UK ministry of defence, our armed forces continue using outdated and illegal cluster munitions which kill thousands of children. i note also that the US military has been sluggish - at best - in terms of discarding land mines & other forms of indiscriminate weaponry which often kill children (and women).

People who intentionally want to kill those who are not the same religion?

it is scary. it is horrific. but i find it hard to make a distinction between killing someone because of their religion and, er, killing someone because of orders. people don't grieve any less because their loved one died at the hands of an atheist...

People who say if they accidentally kill those of their religion, it's okay, because their god will sort them out?

not nice is it. but then neither is killing journalists & basically saying 'fuck you' to their grieving families. or killing heroin users and saying 'fuck you' while they die because they can't get clean needles. or saying 'collateral damage' when shooting your coalition troops. or saying 'never mind' when testing chemical weapons on your own troops.
 
CreativeRandom said:
How would you feel knowing that half of a half of a penny of yours went to funding the terrorist attack on NYC. Or London. Or anywhere for that matter?

Probably similar to knowing that the taxes I 'paid' to the Government are being used to fund the murder of innocent people in Iraq. ;)


Personally, I am not scared in the slightest of the terrorist attacks you mentioned and I think the fear of terrorism is being used by our Governments for its hidden agenda. It's just nice seeing that argument being used against them. :)
 
Ah, but the key difference between the military and terrorists is that these terrorists are intentionally attacking women, children, and civilians. Whereas the military only targets hostiles and actually makes an effort to avoid civilians.

Why don't you help with discarding land mines? I have heard about the land mines left from long ago battles. It's horrifying.

People who kill on orders are taking the orders from someone. In the case of a tyrant like Sadam, it is disgusting. In the case of a political leader who is representing the will of the majority of the people he governs, it is just. These people killing on orders are targeting hostiles, not civilians and innocent people on purpose.

I agree with you on the heroin bit. This whole drug war is out of control and extremely hurtful.

The testing on your own troops is fucked up too. But as they say, it takes a little oil to get the wheel's spinning. There are plenty of atrocities within the American and UK government and military. But the thing is is that we learn from it, and do not repeat it.

The murder of innocent people in Iraq? Since when did the military or government say "We are going to intentionally kill innocent people in Iraq". Yes, it is a sad fact of war that innocent people will die. But if this war would not have been conducted, millions would have been killed by Sadam. It is a terrible case of whether these people would die from us, or their own leader. Might as well take our nation's interest at heart and choose what benefits us more.

Hidden agenda. Can you source this hidden agenda? Can you provide any credible source about this "hidden agenda". Personally, I think that you are downsizing the terrorist threat and calling the government of a "hidden agenda" to further move your own hidden agenda.
 
Chris Davies, who represents the North West in the European Parliament, says that creating a regulated market is the only way of stopping drug money going into “the pockets of criminals and funding terrorist activities”.

His views are in direct opposition to his party leadership, which opposes legalisation and the Home Office rejected his call, claiming the move would lead to a “significant” increase in drug use.


i guess they'd rather have criminals and terrorists continue to get funding than have their citizens have the right to do whatever they like to their own bodies :\
 
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