Etizolam taper

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Ive been using between 10-30mg of etizolam daily for close to 2 months. Would 250mg be enough for a safe taper?
thus far [3 days in] 2 1mg klonopins [although combined with heroin] have been enough to hold off the worst of it until I get my order, but still uncomfortable. I plan on starting off at 8mg a day, and working down 1mg every few days. Is that too fast? or should it be fairly safe and comfortable?
 
I'm not too familiar with Etizolam addictions, but I think it's worth a try reducing your daily intake if you cannot face quitting cold turkey.
One thing I know is that it is not the easiest habit to give up. But stay determined, anything is possible.
How often are you using Heroin on the side??
Maybe this is not the best drug to turn to in times of withdrawal...
 
I have also not used Etizolam. But from the people I have seen who have been the most successful in tapering and have the most peaceful time in doing this I would suggest that you see a physician and switch to a longer acting benzo for the taper.. I would discuss with you physician about moving to klonopin and tapering off that.
 
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Etizolam, being a classical benzodiazepine variant, possesses characteristics that make the physiological addiction symptoms less severe than a benzodiazepine equipotent by weight (like alprazolam i.e. Xanax). That's what first attracted me to it.

HOWEVER, because its pharmacokinetics are so similar to those of Xanax in that they are each potent milligram for milligram, exhibit high protein binding in the blood and have very short half-lives, you must not taper off of this class of drugs with it. Doing so greatly, greatly increases the risk of withdrawal-related complications.

Due to how miserable you're likely to feel, there's also an associated increased risk of relapse to stop the withdrawal symptoms - and then, guess what? You're back at square one. And square one sucked, too!

Ah, GABAergic tranquilizers... :|

You must switch over to a benzodiazepine with at least the half-life of Klonopin (e.g. commonly between 30 and 50 hours, not 4-6), but most doctors will even strongly suggest moving to a medication with an exceptionally long half-life. The two most common are Librium (and I can tell you, you don't want to be on Librium, it's an awful feeling) and especially Valium, whose half-life can approach 120 hours in some people.

I take it, based off the fact that etizolam is very popular amongst people who like the feeling of a benzo but who are not prescribed one, along with the fact that you mentioned waiting for your order, that you do not have a psychiatrist who can help you wean yourself off of these things by dispensing a legitimate diazepam prescription?

There have been a great many people in your boat as of late, I've noticed. If you don't have a doctor who can help you, you must, must, must thoroughly research the symptoms and course of benzodiazepine withdrawal enough such that you understand it from a pharmacological and neurological level. After fifteen years on benzodiazepines, I can tell you it was only after I'd mastered my understanding of what they are thought to do to the body, in conjunction with what experience had shown me they do to MY body, that I felt comfortable during the course of a given withdrawal to assess whether or not I would do well to go seek emergency medical attention in order to avoid massive seizures. Whilst my perception of your situation is based off of sparse subjective experience and nothing more, if you'd been taking etizolam for two months straight, chances probably weigh in favor of your not being at especially high risk for a massive tonic-clonic seizure.

That said, you just never know.

If you can continue to find clonazepam while you wait for your order (I'm assuming an online order of Etilaam tablets), you will be uncomfortable, but fine generally speaking. Heroin will not do for your ailing brain what the benzos will as you taper off of them completely. Heroin would certainly make you "feel better," but it won't stave off withdrawal symptoms.

The last thing you ought to do after collecting a firm supply of medication, is GET OFF OF IT!!!!! And the following article, if you take just three minutes to read it, describes exactly why that is so imperative - Why We Don't Get Better Immediately: Post-Acute Withdrawal Syndrome (PAWS)
And don't kid yourself. The slight structural variation from the classical benzodiazepines that allows etizolam to remain unscheduled is not enough of a variation so as to make it, in any sense of the word, "safe."

Etizolam addiction is becoming so widespread that, although it is not as highly publicized as the crisis resulting from ignorant thrill-seekers tangling with 25I-NBOMe, it's becoming a societal snake whose head will be cut off by the authorities. You do not want to be around when that happens, hopelessly addicted to it and now without being able to order it like one might a DVD set.

Be careful, my friend. Acute benzodiazepine withdrawal is a medical emergency.

Stay in touch with us and let us know how it goes. Keep asking questions. Seek the help of a professional as soon as you get off Bluelight this evening.

~ Vaya

EDIT: Thanks to neversickanymore for posting one of, if not the, best and most comprehensive benzodiazepine-specific withdrawal resources available. Give that entire manual (don't worry, its not a textbook!) a deep review, okay?

Be well - Feel better!
 
you guys are awesome, thank you. its hard for me to read all this info and take it in while in opiate and benzo w/d at the same time. I should have mentioned ive been on suboxone for 6 years, and now with no source or script, so my heroin use has been just enough daily to fight off w/d as im broke. Due to factors from my teens its almost impossible to get prescribed addictive meds [even after calls from my counsellor telling them I NEED some sort of meds. Im assuming im safe from seizing if such a small amount of klonopin keeps the worst at bay, but I know assuming is wrong. My main issue is having no money or insurance, and living with parents that cant know, otherwise theyll kick me out. Im going to try the quick etiz taper as its already paid for, and then, if necessary see a new doctor. Already being piled in medical debt just adds to the stress.
 
^When you get your shipment, for the love of god don't take 10-30mg/day. Stretch out 0.5 or 1mg as long as you can before taking another 0.5. if it gets unbearable, take another 1. But you need to moderate the hell out of this - and certainly moreso than you have been!

We're rootin' for ya, SPDemon....!
 
I used Etizolam for a little over a year and at the end of my use I was up to about 5-6mgs/day. This was consistent and I never took more than was necessary to put a dent in my anxiety. Even at 5mgs/day it was almost impossible for me to taper due to Etizolam's very short half-life. I tried, and even with a slow taper (tapering .5mgs/month) I was unable to do it successfully. This is myself though, everyones mileage may differ.

I would strongly suggest seeing a psychiatrist to address your usage and switch to a longer acting Benzodiazapine such as Klonopin or Diazapam. The dosage amount you listed is extremely high and coming off of that dose that quickly with most certainly not be comfortable nor safe.

How long have you been using Etizolam? Are you seeing a GP or other medical practitioner who is prescribing any other benzos?

What is your dosing regimen like? Do you take it at certain times?
 
^When you get your shipment, for the love of god don't take 10-30mg/day. Stretch out 0.5 or 1mg as long as you can before taking another 0.5. if it gets unbearable, take another 1. But you need to moderate the hell out of this - and certainly moreso than you have been!

We're rootin' for ya, SPDemon....!

This is the plan, and after the hell of the past few days will be stuck to. If i can control my use of heroin to once a day [I thankfully found suboxone, which a strip will last me 16 days], which has been impossible until now in the past, Im sure i can stick to the taper of etiz. it may not be comfortable, but not having to worry about opiate w/d now for quite some time, im hoping it will be workable. It will surely be better than the hell of the past few days, which has definitely toughened me a bit and something to say "well its not as bad as.. I can ride this out.".
 
I used Etizolam for a little over a year and at the end of my use I was up to about 5-6mgs/day. This was consistent and I never took more than was necessary to put a dent in my anxiety. Even at 5mgs/day it was almost impossible for me to taper due to Etizolam's very short half-life. I tried, and even with a slow taper (tapering .5mgs/month) I was unable to do it successfully. This is myself though, everyones mileage may differ.

I would strongly suggest seeing a psychiatrist to address your usage and switch to a longer acting Benzodiazapine such as Klonopin or Diazapam. The dosage amount you listed is extremely high and coming off of that dose that quickly with most certainly not be comfortable nor safe.

How long have you been using Etizolam? Are you seeing a GP or other medical practitioner who is prescribing any other benzos?

What is your dosing regimen like? Do you take it at certain times?

about 2 months of daily use. and no i am not. and no I was reckless with my use. it was all over the place. however i luckily should be able to afford more soon for a longer taper, and possibly a stash of xanax. going to start with the etiz at the lowest dose possible thats functional - and work down as quickly as possible without pushing it into the dangerous territory. if this doesnt work i will be seeking outside help. wish me luck and thank you all.
 
The medications I would explore the use of for detox of opiates would be:

>Clonidine< DOSED EVER FOUR HOURS..

one of either
>NEURONTIN< >HERE< >HERE<
OR >Lyrica<

>a nsaid<
>melatonin<
tylenol

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You can and will do this.. but please dont let your fears endanger or kill you.. you are amazing<3

These medications need to be cleared and prescribed ny your doctor.. I jumped off 150 mgpd methadone, 260mgpd roxi, and 6 mgpd xanax and that was just what I was prescribed 8).. after having a long time serious long time speed ball as well as a 17 year benzo addiction.. and I'm Happier now than i have ever been.. If I can do it so can you;)
 
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about 2 months of daily use. and no i am not. and no I was reckless with my use. it was all over the place. however i luckily should be able to afford more soon for a longer taper, and possibly a stash of xanax. going to start with the etiz at the lowest dose possible thats functional - and work down as quickly as possible without pushing it into the dangerous territory. if this doesnt work i will be seeking outside help. wish me luck and thank you all.

Read up on tapering as best you can, etizolam is new so there is not a lot of information on it but you can get information on similar benzos to get an idea. The biggest risk is seizures and possible brain damage.

I understand if you want to try this on your own but seeking medical help may be your best option IMO. They can prescribe you a medication that will keep you out of dangerous seizure territory and usually a dose that is comfortable enough during the taper. I had to do it myself and I was scared to death to be flagged as an addict, but it didn't go that way. My psychiatrist was very understanding of the situation and after the first month of me keeping my word and only taking my medication as prescribed, I feel my treatment plan is working very well.

I hope you find the relief you need <3 I know exactly your pain.
 
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