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(Ethylphenidate/Multiple doses) First time: Impressively Enhancing

curiosityandcat

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(Ethylphenidate/Multiple doses) First time: "Oh me likey!!"

Intro: This is my first experience with Ethylphenidate. My experience with other stimulants or alike is fairly high. I was a frequent cocaine user for about a year, have a prescription to Adderall (20mg twice daily) but I do not take it as prescribed anymore due to a break in school. I am overwhelmingly experienced with 2c-e and 2c-i. Other drug experience include lots of ecstasy and also mushrooms (handful of times), marijuana (countless times), DMT (TONS)methoxetamine (countless times), various benzos (tons), 5-meo-AMT (handful of times), DOM/DOI (don't know which it was), LSD (only once) and lots of alcohol. Recently I have grown to be less fond of the drunken state due to my decrease in depression (I have been battling depression and suicide since 6th grade and always stayed away from ALL drugs and alcohol up until graduating high school). Ever since I began using various drugs (respectfully and mostly carefully, mainly just marijuana) my depression seems to have disappeared (with the help of the bupropion I take every morning). I am now 21, I have always been unfit muscle-wise but at age 18 I started working out and lost a lot of weight. Over the past two years now, though, I have started putting it back on because I've been pretty lazy. I visit my psychiatrist monthly for my Adderall script (he can't write more than one refill at a time because of some new federal law, I don't see him for therapy since I don't need it, just for the script) and my vitals are always healthy. Anyways, here we go:

-0:30 I start off in a good mood, I just found a place to move to this morning and am excited to get out of this neighborhood. I am starting security school next week and my life is looking amazing lately. Excited to see my package in the mail (from a trusted source) I rush upstairs and break out my mg scale. I read about dosages and double checked right before I did my allergy test. I weighed out 10mg and insufflated it. Slight burn but does not bother me.

0:00 No negative side effects noticed. Very slight mood lift, possible placebo effect. I decide to weigh out 50mg and insufflate 25mg in each nostril. This time it burns like crazy, still nowhere near as bad as 2c-e, but still very uncomfortable for a couple minutes. To me, I feel like the more it burns, the more available it is to absorb through that route (back when I snorted ecstasy it always burned like crazy but got me going very quickly and very strongly).

0:25 I feel stimulation and definite mood lift, still growing. It feels like I just took a blue dolphin 15 minutes ago. This reminds me of the good, ol' rolling days with my close friends, I am becoming very excited. I put on some Trailer Park Boys on Netflix and sit on my couch.

0:30 The show is extremely entertaining, even more than usual. My jaw is slightly tight and I feel like I can feel my teeth more than usual, but no grinding. I openly laugh at the show frequently and notice a slight jitter in my hands similar to cocaine wearing off but no depression. Also, my stomach feels empty although I ate about an hour ago, definitely no hunger though, it feels like after binging on Adderall for the day and you know you have to eat but you don't want to. Knowing I just ate, the feeling does not bother me at all and if I weren't writing this report I wouldn't have even noticed it. Mental focus is increased as well, there is no "skeeted-ness" feeling like you get while hopped up on white girl. It is much more like amphetamine but slightly psychedelic or empathogenic, I can't quite put my finger on it. Petting my beloved cat is somehow much more soothing than usual (I say somehow because I truly love my cat with all my heart and I always enjoy having him at my side).

0:50 Still the same feeling as from 20 minutes ago, slightly seems to be waning.

1:05 Decided to insfufflate another 60mg (30mg each nostril), I had to take a couple minutes break between each line, the burning made my eyes water but has now subsided. Immediately I feel the same rush, increasing each minute. Also, I quickly notice that my home seems to have an elevated temperature, my forehead is sweating a bit so I turn the air to a cooler temperature and turn on a couple fans.

1:15 Still have been coming up the past ten minutes and feels even better than the first time now that I know exactly what to expect. If it weren't for the burning, I could definitely see myself continually redosing all day, but I've been prone to nosebleeds even way before I ever did any drugs and although no nosebleeds have come on due to drugs so far in my life, I am worried that this drug may be the first one.

1:30 Warm and fuzzy stimulation prominent, I feel like it will last for another 45 minutes or so judging by the first time. I plan on doing more throughout the day, but stopping long before bed time.

All in all and in retrospect, minus the sting, this chemical seems very promising as something to give you a nice and fairly strong push. The novel thing about this drug is because it works as a dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, increasing the size of the dosage is almost pointless (if you realize how this chemical effects your brain). With cocaine you never feel like you had enough, constantly making the next line even wider and longer. With this, just keeping with the same dosage range and repeating over the course of a day the effects keep getting stronger as stronger as your brain naturally produces the affected neurotransmitters and they just stick around longer in your synapses due to the reuptake inhibition. This makes me feel like this drug could be almost perfectly safe if taken in a more viable route (orally) due to the obvious, possible damage to the nasal cavities.
 
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UPDATE
Over the last couple of days I have used Ethylphenidate via insufflation in about 15-20mg bumps over the course of about an hour (totaling eventually about 60-120mg). Then, after a several hours I repeat this process again. I split the doses in such small lines due to the sting. Each night I still got to sleep just fine (with the help of about 4 or 5 beers). A VERY prominent effect that surprised me with this drug was STRONG, MDMA-like trails. I noticed them once I got home from a friend's house (where all we do when over there is smoke a ton of medical grade weed from Colorado, talk to one another, and listen to dubstep). I was still very high when I got home and as soon as I walked into my well lit apartment I noticed that every movement I made left a very distinct trail of energy behind. It wasn't like a strobing, visual trail of the object in motion (like can happen with DXM, stop-motion) but it was literally energy, faintly colored like the Aurora Borealis. This was the same effect I experienced on a high dose, 2 day binge on 5-meo-AMT. I am a firm believer in chi/chakra/inner energy and I am certain that it's actually electromagnetic energy that emanates from everything.

My review for ethylphenidate would be a strong 7 or 8 out of 10. I like to believe I have a concrete grasp on reality and addiction potential due to my experience with almost all types of drugs so I am not worried at all about becoming addicted, to anything.

If anyone is curious about trying this drug, I hope this report will offer some incite. If you choose to use this chemical and feel that it isn't as strong as I have proclaimed, keep in mind that this drug inhibits the removal (or reuptake) of dopamine and norepinephrine from the synaptic cleft and does not actually cause either of these neurotransmitters to spew out into your synapses (like MDMA does with serotonin). This means that you will most likely need to keep redosing over the period of the day (but small doses) in order to build up these fine and dandy neurotransmitters in your welcoming synapses. Thank you for reading, good day, and never forget rule number one: be careful and explore with caution.
 
Thank you for this. I've been interested in EPhD for quite a while now but haven't found a report that was so easily readable and informative.

Have you had experience with it in a social setting yet? I'm interested to know how it affects interaction and the willingness/enjoyability of interacting with others. I'm expecting the answer to that to be positive though, given your slight mention of empathy.
 
I'm pleased to hear you enjoy my report :).

To answer your question, yes, each time I have done it I have purposely done it before hanging out with some friends. The first time, which the report above is describing, I was doing all of that during the day. Then, at night, before a couple of friends down from spring break came over I decided to redose again with 60mg. Route and process of that administration was insufflation broken into approximately 10mg lines and done over the course of an hour to deal with the sting a lot better. When my friends came over we had a great time. I've always been really sociable and all of my friends typically refer to me as "the comedian" since I tend to make "hilarious" comments and I think it's due to my two passions in life; writing and making others happy. The feelings with my friends included increased empathy (but controllable, as in, I could sympathize and emotionally connect to them wholeheartedly but without becoming infatuated which happens on MDMA) and a HUGE increase in the interest of their lives and how they have been doing.

The next night, because of how amazing the drug made me feel the night before, I dosed about 60mg via insufflation over the course of an hour and then another 60mg the same way in the next hour, knowing that I would be getting picked up soon to go to a friend's house to chill and smoke some weed. That night I was particularly interesting I guess, since the people I was with laughed at everything I said, because I typically only speak with uplifting humor while still listening and appreciating other's opinions and stories. That was the night that when I got home later and experienced the energy trails, which entertained me for hours before I fell asleep.

But to answer your question directly, when I am on Ethylphenidate, I want to hang out with my friends, like much much more than usual.

In social situations I would rank this drug up there with low dose MDMA combined with amphetamines or cocaine, just minus the crash. It is definitely a possible party drug, even though I was only hanging out with a handful of people. Ethylphenidate basically just puts me in an upper mood and there's a strong reaction with others, as each night I seemed to be the center of attention (which is normally typical if I'm not being depressed or anxiety-ridden). What I speak of, I can assure you, is not a delusion or clouded judgement due to being under the influence of Ethylphenidate, since the high is very down to Earth and clear headed.

Because of the disastrous comedown from MDMA (with me anyway), I would definitely choose Ethylphenidate over rolling in a new social situation. I never liked rolling at large gatherings because to me, MDMA is for hardcore empathy with people you know well and trust, I never understood how people want to roll while clubbing. In my opinion, if you roll at a club, you aren't using the drug to its true potential. There is nothing better than spiritually connecting your energy with the energy of another good friend. But enough of the MDMA rant, basically, I'd say Ethylphenidate is a great social party drug. I assume its much like MDPV (bath salts) but just with a slow, breezy come down.

Also, I'd like to note, the day after my experience with Ethylphenidate with my friends (even though no one I was with had the slightest clue I was on anything) was my grandmother's birthday. When I awoke in the morning I felt no compulsive feeling of needing or wanting to do any Ethylphenidate out of respect for my family and wanting to enjoy my grandmother's birthday with her thoroughly (even if they have no clue about any of my drug use) and I had a great day with my grandma, completely sober and back to baseline, just with a wonderful afterglow.

This chemical is definitely worthy of responsible use, I will be receiving some Methiopropamine soon and then I will be able to compare the effects of these two chemicals and possibly them in combination of one another. Rest assured that I will be documenting a trip report for Methiopropamine by itself and also another night of combining the two (but when I combine them I plan on cutting the dosages of each in half so that I don't over do it).

I hope I answered your inquiry the best I could and it gave you some incite. I NEVER advocate the use of ANY drug, but if you're going to do it anyway, I hope what I have experienced and explained with give you a general idea on what to expect and how to use this chemical correctly. Although I think it would be VERY hard to over-do this chemical, to the point of being uncomfortable, I still insist on stressing the fact that you start with an allergy test and work your way up from there, if you choose to experiment with ethylphenidate.

PS: On a side note, I need to add that I have some etizolam stashed away just in case I stay up too long on the ethylphenidate. Although I so far haven't needed to take it because of any stress reasons, I just have a much higher confidence using new drugs when I know I have a backup plan if the shit ever hits the fan. That psychosomatic response of knowing I have a safety blanket probably played a roll in my positive experience with ethylphenidate.

Stay tuned for some new threads about MPA (methiopropamine) in the following week or so.

Have a good day/night :)
 
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Excellent answer, lots of information there! Thank You :)
 
Intro: I received my order from a well reputed source, and the appearance of said EP was very fine powder with some small crystal granules here and there... I proceeded to weigh out about 60mg, and at 10:00am, snorted one half of the dose in each nostril. It burned quite a bit, but I handled it.

10:10- feeling definite hallmark effects of a dri stim... e.g bowel evacuation, slight nausea, a warm feeling all over. Very energized.
10:30- the euphoria was a bit lacking, perhaps due to my super-sensitivity to stim side effects.
10:50- Overwhelming energy levels, lots of anxiety,chest tightness, etc.
11:30- effects are wearing off quite rapidly, leading me to want to try more.
11:50- i choose about 75% of my prior dose to bump the second time
12:00- energy is back, but so is the anxiety and body-load. almost to an unacceptable degree.
12:20- i administer two mg lorazepam, trying to take the edge off of these nasty stim side effects.

I don't intend on scaring anyone away from this substance, as i'm sure many people are not this sensitive to the negative aspects. But for me, a 2 year MDPV run has seemingly ruined stims for me in a pretty bad way, don't know if i'll ever get over the panic attacks that the MDPV precipitated, it's been 2 years since i last indulged, and i still experience flashback anxiety and sense of pending doom when dabbling with Rcs of the DRI type. All in all, I'm sure this would be a great tool for someone who has no such dispositions to these experiences, but for me, it seems pretty useless considering i BADLY need to take a benzo shortly after dosing. I'm going to try at another time, but would anyone have any suggestions on how to minimize these negative side effects? different dose, different ROA?
 
you dosed a little on the high side, especially if you are not that big.

Try around 50% of your dose next time and maybe leave it a little longer before re-dosing.

Many people report the anxiety of EPH to be too high and require a beer or two before take off.
 
Intro: This is my first experience with Ethylphenidate. My experience with other stimulants or alike is fairly high. I was a frequent cocaine user for about a year, have a prescription to Adderall (20mg twice daily) but I do not take it as prescribed anymore due to a break in school. I am overwhelmingly experienced with 2c-e and 2c-i. Other drug experience include lots of ecstasy and also mushrooms (handful of times), marijuana (countless times), DMT (TONS)methoxetamine (countless times), various benzos (tons), 5-meo-AMT (handful of times), DOM/DOI (don't know which it was), LSD (only once) and lots of alcohol. Recently I have grown to be less fond of the drunken state due to my decrease in depression (I have been battling depression and suicide since 6th grade and always stayed away from ALL drugs and alcohol up until graduating high school). Ever since I began using various drugs (respectfully and mostly carefully, mainly just marijuana) my depression seems to have disappeared (with the help of the bupropion I take every morning). I am now 21, I have always been unfit muscle-wise but at age 18 I started working out and lost a lot of weight. Over the past two years now, though, I have started putting it back on because I've been pretty lazy. I visit my psychiatrist monthly for my Adderall script (he can't write more than one refill at a time because of some new federal law, I don't see him for therapy since I don't need it, just for the script) and my vitals are always healthy. Anyways, here we go:

-0:30 I start off in a good mood, I just found a place to move to this morning and am excited to get out of this neighborhood. I am starting security school next week and my life is looking amazing lately. Excited to see my package in the mail (from a trusted source) I rush upstairs and break out my mg scale. I read about dosages and double checked right before I did my allergy test. I weighed out 10mg and insufflated it. Slight burn but does not bother me.

0:00 No negative side effects noticed. Very slight mood lift, possible placebo effect. I decide to weigh out 50mg and insufflate 25mg in each nostril. This time it burns like crazy, still nowhere near as bad as 2c-e, but still very uncomfortable for a couple minutes. To me, I feel like the more it burns, the more available it is to absorb through that route (back when I snorted ecstasy it always burned like crazy but got me going very quickly and very strongly).

0:25 I feel stimulation and definite mood lift, still growing. It feels like I just took a blue dolphin 15 minutes ago. This reminds me of the good, ol' rolling days with my close friends, I am becoming very excited. I put on some Trailer Park Boys on Netflix and sit on my couch.

0:30 The show is extremely entertaining, even more than usual. My jaw is slightly tight and I feel like I can feel my teeth more than usual, but no grinding. I openly laugh at the show frequently and notice a slight jitter in my hands similar to cocaine wearing off but no depression. Also, my stomach feels empty although I ate about an hour ago, definitely no hunger though, it feels like after binging on Adderall for the day and you know you have to eat but you don't want to. Knowing I just ate, the feeling does not bother me at all and if I weren't writing this report I wouldn't have even noticed it. Mental focus is increased as well, there is no "skeeted-ness" feeling like you get while hopped up on white girl. It is much more like amphetamine but slightly psychedelic or empathogenic, I can't quite put my finger on it. Petting my beloved cat is somehow much more soothing than usual (I say somehow because I truly love my cat with all my heart and I always enjoy having him at my side).

0:50 Still the same feeling as from 20 minutes ago, slightly seems to be waning.

1:05 Decided to insfufflate another 60mg (30mg each nostril), I had to take a couple minutes break between each line, the burning made my eyes water but has now subsided. Immediately I feel the same rush, increasing each minute. Also, I quickly notice that my home seems to have an elevated temperature, my forehead is sweating a bit so I turn the air to a cooler temperature and turn on a couple fans.

1:15 Still have been coming up the past ten minutes and feels even better than the first time now that I know exactly what to expect. If it weren't for the burning, I could definitely see myself continually redosing all day, but I've been prone to nosebleeds even way before I ever did any drugs and although no nosebleeds have come on due to drugs so far in my life, I am worried that this drug may be the first one.

1:30 Warm and fuzzy stimulation prominent, I feel like it will last for another 45 minutes or so judging by the first time. I plan on doing more throughout the day, but stopping long before bed time.

All in all and in retrospect, minus the sting, this chemical seems very promising as something to give you a nice and fairly strong push. The novel thing about this drug is because it works as a dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, increasing the size of the dosage is almost pointless (if you realize how this chemical effects your brain). With cocaine you never feel like you had enough, constantly making the next line even wider and longer. With this, just keeping with the same dosage range and repeating over the course of a day the effects keep getting stronger as stronger as your brain naturally produces the affected neurotransmitters and they just stick around longer in your synapses due to the reuptake inhibition. This makes me feel like this drug could be almost perfectly safe if taken in a more viable route (orally) due to the obvious, possible damage to the nasal cavities.

I liked his trip report quite nice. I have been using Amphetamine Sulphate a lot over the past few months recreationally initially the high on Amphetamine is great but after a while you sort of get sick of it and you realize its highly addictive and more so damaging though its Euphoric as well I love stimulants as well the ability to party endlessly all night, to socialize a lot to enjoy the party a lot better is great I have always used Amphetamine in the party since railing lines and then drinking booze and socializing dancing the side effects caught up though so i decreased usage significantly . Lately I have been stopping my Amphetamine usage due to increased side effects such as greater anxiety, tension, stress , fear response and Paranoia. Would you recommend Ethylphenidate as a substitute for Amphetamine? THe high seems good. I tried getting methylphenidate but its hard to get that. How does Ritalin compare to Ethylphenidate? and how does Ethylphenidate compare to Amphetamine which is worse for you? I am wondering where you are from I assume the UK yet I could be wrong. I am in Central Europe and I can order Ethylphenidate from the UK. They say the powder is 97 purity percentage so where can i Start of with dosages when i party?
 
I would consider Ethylphenidate to be milder than Amphetamine Sulphate not meth. Do you agree? Do the facts that Ritalin methylphenidate has a lower dependence rate and Pharmacological effect than Amphetamine sulphate. I have never tried Ritalin nor Ethylphenidate but if one where to control the dosages with them the risk for side effects and addiction should be lower than Amphetamine I assume. Right? I am looking for a replacement for Amphetamine that will give me a nice buzz. I will try to score some Ritalin tablets as I am on a University campus but if I cant then I will order Ethylphenidate.
 
My DOC for sure! mixes great with booze and Etizolam! Very nice report by the way and glad you had a good time!! <3

All the best mate!

PTJ
 
I've used Ethylphenidate quite a lot, experimenting with things such as mixing it with caffeine for when i'm overly tired at work (Don't do this. It's very very easy to do too much caffeine and there are no positive effects to be had outside of those from the ethylphenidate!).

I've never snorted it as I'd prefer to just use more if that was a more effective method of administration. (And from the dose reports here, it doesnt seem like there is any noticable difference in bioavailability at all) I found it quite nice for concentration and working at low doses, relatively fun when mixed with mdai or even by itself at somewhat higher doses, and almost incomparably inferior to almost all stimulants I've tried when used in a social situation.

I don't like the long lasting after effects (which is what makes it so effective when you're trying to work I think) and there's little to no euphoria as far as I can see. It does make me quite chatty which is nice, but given the choice I'd do something with a bit more fun.

Amphetamine is definitely more potent, but if you're not getting Adderall or some other medicinal speed then the purity will probably reverse this.

Dose wise, I've stuck to 30-50mg for work/casual nights out, but I've done a 100mg Ethylphenidate + 100mg MDAI bomb before with no ill effects except an accidentally overjoyed post on bluelight and ordering more than I ever wanted in hindsight :)
 
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