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Conspiracies Epstein Dies in Custody - Alleged Suicide, Some Speculate it was a Hit Job

JGrimez said:
I know who Matt Groening is obviously, I was referring to Epstein and why was he hanging out with all these people.


Yeah it sure does. Until you get a foot rub on a private plane dubbed The Lolita Express belonging to an intelligence-connected child sex-trafficker.

Let's forget all the details and ignore any potential suspicions because The Simpsons was a great show.
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Isn't that basically what trump supporters do when they ignore suggestions of trumps sexual assault? Ignore them because they like trump as a person?

Anyways, the Simpsons is long past the point where it should have ended.
 
I feel like the mods here should be more fair and balanced. Well, maybe u guys are fair, but not balanced. Look, im not a repub or dem, just a Q guy. Ill arbitrate ghis board if you guys want?

In a mixed up soul
I'm the Navy so

A kill switch to a ring
And if all are not the same
And stars are of an aristocrat
The daughter to upper middle class
A loyalist with perspective at the rise of another arbiter

I'm the Navy so old
I'm the Navy so

I'm the Navy so old
 
JessFR said:
Isn't that basically what trump supporters do when they ignore suggestions of trumps sexual assault? Ignore them because they like trump as a person?
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A lot of people do that. But I'd like to know if Trump was shtooping Epstein's underage sex slaves.
All that we know is that Trump flew once on Epstein's plane from FL to NY, and witnesses have stated that they saw Trump around but they never saw him involved with any of the young girls.

So at this point, Matt Groening is more implicated than Trump.
 
You don't feel like you take this kind of association with epstein more seriously when it's someone you politically oppose (like bill Clinton)?

This is an honest question BTW, I'm not asking as a rhetorical attack.
 
I politically oppose all pedovore alien backed slave masters. I ride with the Qanon guys.

Someone shoot a fucking shot at Q. Legitimate Q drop shot. I am almost begging for it at this point. You cant touch truth.
 
JessFR said:
You don't feel like you take this kind of association with epstein more seriously when it's someone you politically oppose (like bill Clinton)?
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I oppose almost everyone inside the government. I'd like to see every single one exposed for their shady activities.
With that said, some are far worse than others.
Eg: Bill Clinton actually traveling 26 times to Epstein's Pedo Island versus Trump who flew once from FL to NY.
So yes, I take the island visits more seriously, don't you?

yepyepwoah said:
I ride with the Qanon guys.
Someone shoot a fucking shot at Q. Legitimate Q drop shot. I am almost begging for it at this point. You cant touch truth.
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I'll rip on Q. I followed it pretty closely since the beginning.
Seems like it's a psy-op. It's placating Trump supporters and keeping them calm because they think that "good guys" are draining the swamp behind the scenes.
Overall the evidence doesn't match this narrative. They could've escalated the pressure or dropped many hammers by now but they haven't.
Q often says "Patriots in control" - yet we're still seeing false flag shootings, all the criminals are still free, Assange was arrested, Epstein, was suicided etc etc.
If they're in control and we're supposed to "trust the plan" - then imo the plan sucks balls.

But I do credit the Q movement for exposing a lot of dirty secrets to a wider audience. I just feel it's a limited hangout and a manipulative psy-op. I never thought I'd see anti-war Trump supporters cheering for a regime change in Iran, and saying that "disinformation is necessary". Well done Q, well done.
 
JGrimez said:
I oppose almost everyone inside the government. I'd like to see every single one exposed for their shady activities.
With that said, some are far worse than others.
Eg: Bill Clinton actually traveling 26 times to Epstein's Pedo Island versus Trump who flew once from FL to NY.
So yes, I take the island visits more seriously, don't you?
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Assuming it's true (I haven't verified it), then yes I would. I'd still want an explanation for both at some point.

If it was all innocent then it shouldn't be a problem for either of them.
 
JessFR said:
Assuming it's true (I haven't verified it), then yes I would. I'd still want an explanation for both at some point.

If it was all innocent then it shouldn't be a problem for either of them.
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lol I have to give you credit for being extremely charitable to people sometimes.
Innocent till proven guilty, right? (except for Trump/Russia).

You often pull a Joe Rogan which is what I describe as feigning ignorance of something due to not having bothered looking into it or doing your own research.
For example, the flight logs were leaked with Bill Clinton's name on them and I believe the leaker was charged or convicted.

It was first reported by Gawker in 2015 so there's been ample time to check it out, but if there's certain things we don't wish to know or accept then we will steer clear of them and claim that it's all fake https://gawker.com/flight-logs-put-clinton-dershowitz-on-pedophile-billio-1681039971
and you can view the logs here here: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifests.html

So you have to really question the possibility of things being "all innocent" when Bill flew at least 26 times on the Lolita Express with convicted child-sex trafficker Epstein and at times his girl-procuring sidekick Maxwell sometimes ditching his secret service detail, and we know for a fact the Bill was into extramarital affairs with much younger women in inappropriate locations.

I would also like an explanation but I don't expect to ever get it.
 
Bill Gates met with Epstein regularly AFTER he was convicted of child sex trafficking and was seemingly taking financial advice from him.
JessFR said:
Yay, yeah, fuck trump! :)
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Only for the right reasons.

I will still call out fucking Trump based on baloney.
 
Right reasons, wrong reasons, I'm not picky...

Fuck trump! :)

I'm not too bothered about people taking financial advice from epstein, so long as they weren't being provided by anything from him that'll get you labeled a sex offender.
 
JessFR said:
I'm not too bothered about people taking financial advice from epstein, so long as they weren't being provided by anything from him that'll get you labeled a sex offender.
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So you don't like Trump because of his bombastic personality, but you're cool with hanging out with a convicted child sex offender.
 
Ehh, no, I'm not really cool with it. What I said was "I'm not too bothered by it". Which isn't the same as being cool with it.

But I also don't want to make judgements knowing so little about the circumstances.

Like, if you're asking what I think about someone knowingly being friends with a child sex offender, no I'm not OK with that.

But the context was people having associated with epstein, getting financial advice, etc. I don't know what they knew about him at the time. I don't know the context. And financial advice is a long way from friendly hanging out.

I just don't want to judge an association I know so little about.
 
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JGrimez said:
Fuck Barr. Fuck Trump. This will be covered up.
And the worst part is that nothing will be done and this blatant corruption will continue.
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no surprise here.

perhaps people will start to see that trump is not a washington-outsider, non-politician, bravely and nobly draining the swamp... he's as much a politician and part of the establishment as those with whom his supporters love to contrast him.

alasdair
 
JGrimez said:
I oppose almost everyone inside the government. I'd like to see every single one exposed for their shady activities.
With that said, some are far worse than others.
Eg: Bill Clinton actually traveling 26 times to Epstein's Pedo Island versus Trump who flew once from FL to NY.
So yes, I take the island visits more seriously, don't you?


I'll rip on Q. I followed it pretty closely since the beginning.
Seems like it's a psy-op. It's placating Trump supporters and keeping them calm because they think that "good guys" are draining the swamp behind the scenes.
Overall the evidence doesn't match this narrative. They could've escalated the pressure or dropped many hammers by now but they haven't.
Q often says "Patriots in control" - yet we're still seeing false flag shootings, all the criminals are still free, Assange was arrested, Epstein, was suicided etc etc.
If they're in control and we're supposed to "trust the plan" - then imo the plan sucks balls.

But I do credit the Q movement for exposing a lot of dirty secrets to a wider audience. I just feel it's a limited hangout and a manipulative psy-op. I never thought I'd see anti-war Trump supporters cheering for a regime change in Iran, and saying that "disinformation is necessary". Well done Q, well done.
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Yah I dunno man. I said "Q drop shot" like as in, go get something that is considered a "proof" post it, then tell me why it's wrong. Not your opinion on your feelz.

I feel is is a psyop. It could be the NSA. I mean, why do secret societies have to be murderous satanist? Why can't they be benevolent and such?

What IF it was two deep state factions like you say. Except one just wants to stop the pedovore satanist that eat children?

I mean, how long would it take to really arrest a full nation of traitors? what if we got technology like in Total Recall and shit. with clones and all that. I mean.... you are looking at it from a very narrow lense guys
 
JessFR said:
But the context was people having associated with epstein, getting financial advice, etc. I don't know what they knew about him at the time. I don't know the context. And financial advice is a long way from friendly hanging out.
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Epstein had been tried, convicted and served time at this point. You could say it was a fact that Gates knew all this about him. Maybe Bill should replace his PR team, at the very least it's not a great look to take financial advice from a guy who had a side business selling little girls.

Remember that some of us have been following this Epstein saga for years. The MSM and its followers were not interested back then. It's only when a story becomes so big and impossible to deny that they need to begin to cover it and then some more people take it seriously. Unfortunately for the people involved their past deeds are then (rightfully) put under the microscope.

alasdairm said:
perhaps people will start to see that trump is not a washington-outsider, non-politician, bravely and nobly draining the swamp... he's as much a politician and part of the establishment as those with whom his supporters love to contrast him.
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Well you're half-right. It's pretty obvious that there is a type of civil war within the establishment. It was unprecedented to see such vicious and concerted attacks against a candidate from the FBI, DOJ, foreign spies and almost the entire media. But that shows that things can change, and a lot of good changes have happened because of Trump. I just have to admit I was wrong when I expected much greater change from the man. Whether he intended to do more and was blocked by the establishment doesn't matter to me, he's not addressing the issues that imo are important. And now letting this Epstein thing slide is pretty solid proof to me. I don't believe that Trump himself is implicated in anything to do with Epstein, but I think Trump is protecting friends of his or people more powerful than him. So Trump was well-connected but not a washington politician, and is getting attacked by the establishment, so what ties does he have that entrenches him into the establishment? What's the common thread? In this case Trump's campaign was financed by Sheldon Adelson, a devoutly-Zionist Jew. Israel LOVES Trump. Epstein was most probably working for Mossad. I don't claim to know exactly what's going on, but I can see what's not going on and we can discern a lot from that.

With that said things can change in a lot of ways domestically and internationally under a different leader even if the ultimate endgame is pretty well uncontested.
Trump saved us from Hillary and I will always be thankful for that, but he's had the power to make some serious changes since he was elected. I do think he's done a ton of good stuff and will credit him, but he's dropped the ball on the really important stuff - exposing FISAgate corruption, going after political censorship, reigning in the CIA, combating the institutional child abuse of gender education, reporting on global cooling and crop losses, protecting Assange, exposing Epstein murder etc etc...

yepyepwoah said:
Why do secret societies have to be murderous satanist?
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That's their foundation. Whatever deity they worship requires pain and death.
If the leaders of our world had empathy, then things would not be the way they are.

yepyepwoah said:
What IF it was two deep state factions like you say. Except one just wants to stop the pedovore satanist that eat children?
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I at least hope this is the case. But if that were so, wouldn't we have seen Epstein protected and his history/connections investigated? He was the One, the linchpin, the thread that could've unraveled the entire network. I feel we would've seen more exposed by now. When Pizzagate first dropped, I thought for certain that by now a lot of the stuff would be exposed and it would be household news. Like seriously there's so much evidence out there already.

yepyepwoah said:
I mean, how long would it take to really arrest a full nation of traitors?
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I'm not feeling the excuse of "it takes time", "trust the plan". I gave Q a lot of time. We'd have seen some much more massive changes by now if this was some legitimate takedown of the bad guys. The system isn't changing. False flags are still going down and innocents are being murdered. Some things are happening but the Q people are greatly over-exaggerating really small wins.
 
He didn't get "silenced".
That's a conspiracy theory.
The news said that he committed suicide.
And the case has been dropped.
Just a coincidence, if you think otherwise you're Alex Jones.
 
@JGrimez

I'm increasingly perplexed by how you use the word coincidence.

A coincidence is when two unrelated things happen together. Not when two related things happen together.

What's coincidental about a man like epstein killing himself?

Or the news calling it suicide and the medical examiner saying the same.

These are not coincidences.
 
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