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Conspiracies Epstein Dies in Custody - Alleged Suicide, Some Speculate it was a Hit Job

WHY IS SHE EVEN VISITING AN ISLAND THAT HAS A WEIRD TEMPLE AND IS A PLACE FOR UNDERAGE SEX ORGIES?? IS SHE GOING FOR COCONUTS AND PINEAPPLES??? If Trump went there you'd be drawing up speculative blueprints based on every alleged, depraved act that Trump committed. And women of course can are are often pedophiles. I'm not saying Hillary is but "women are rarely pedophiles" is some nonsense claptrap.
I love how you used the words “weird temple”, it reminds me of the sentiments the liberal media reported on his private island. Similar language.

Maybe she went for a business meeting. Or maybe Epstein was also selling Hillary heroin. I don’t care.

There’s no time machine to go find out. Perhaps Hillary will shed some light on this and you can accuse her of a cover up or lying or whatever.
 
Fuck someone somewhere must have Videos of the Island Partays.
Who would have had most fucks with different women / 18+ Girls out
Of Trumpstar Billy C or JFK
Epstein was given choice I feel.
Also read at one stage he was on suicide watch then just out of that and returned to Non watch then he gone. Sad. But he lived his dream.
 
You know, even if I were to believe that this were indeed a conspiracy, I still wouldn't take the story frequently changing as proof of anything more than over zealous and irresponsible news outlets reporting whatever they hear the moment they hear it.

I still remember when the Virginia tech killer was various Asian nationalities until they settled on Korean. They just report whatever they hear. Speed is far more important to them than accuracy.
 
Also Alisdairm, is that all you're going to say about this case???
sure. because i have no idea what actually happened whereas you're making baseless claims and jumping to conclusions with no evidence whatsoever and discounting evidence which doesn't fit your bias.

if i sounds a little snarky to you it's because i'm pointing out your hypocrisy and i know the truth can hurt that way.

alasdair
 
sure. because i have no idea what actually happened whereas you're making baseless claims and jumping to conclusions with no evidence whatsoever and discounting evidence which doesn't fit your bias.

if i sounds a little snarky to you it's because i'm pointing out your hypocrisy and i know the truth can hurt that way.

alasdair

Do you think it's strange he was taken off of suicide watch? What's your news sources saying?

(you didn't back up your claim with any source)
 
Epstein was under suicide watch.
no he wasn't.

if you're going to rag on others for not getting details right and not correctly analyzing evidence maybe you should try holding yourself to the same standard?

Always helps someone to make an argument if they can link to anything to support their statement, gentlemen.

FBI launches an investigation and AG Barr announces a DOJ probe after pedophile Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide by hanging himself in prison ahead of his sex trafficking trial
Dailymail link, I recommend not following it as it has enough images flickering everywhere to set off a seizure.
Epstein was not on suicide watch at the time of his death on Saturday, despite the fact he was recently hospitalized after allegedly trying to end his own life
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Epstein's suicide comes just two weeks after he was hospitalized following what may have been an initial attempt to take his own life.
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It has not been confirmed whether Epstein attempted suicide, or whether he may have been attacked inside his prison cell.

The billionaire had been taken off suicide watch before taking his own life on Saturday morning - sparking outrage from Attorney General William Barr who has now vowed to look into the circumstances surrounding Epstein's death.



Then, you have stuff like this being put out there. I have no idea who BreakingNewsLive is (indicates independent journalists, could be anyone feeding the conspiracy theorists).








But then you have ABC with this



and NBC with this




Net effect, he wasn't under suicide watch at the time of his death. Begs the question "WHY?"
 
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No way this dead motherfucker is Epstein. Look at the nose.

https://i.redd.it/6bvzqy766nf31.png

There is also the possibility he became a witness and is flipping, therefore they fake a death to take some heat off while they work with hi.

Plenty of reason, obviously, for there to be pressure to kill him, and likewise to make him flip on a lot of powerful people.


And plenty of reason to believe it wasn't suicide (either a hit, or a fake)

Word is his lawyers already tried to make a deal




And, suicide isn't likely to have been possible.

There’s ‘no way’ Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, a former NYC jail inmate says


The following account is from a former inmate of the Metropolitan Correction Center in lower Manhattan, where Jeffrey Epstein was found unresponsive Saturday, and declared dead at a hospital of an apparent suicide. The ex-convict, who spoke to The Post’s Brad Hamilton and Bruce Golding on the condition of anonymity, spent several months in the 9 South special housing unit for high-profile prisoners awaiting trial — like Epstein.

There’s no way that man could have killed himself. I’ve done too much time in those units. It’s an impossibility.


Between the floor and the ceiling is like eight or nine feet. There’s no way for you to connect to anything.

You have sheets, but they’re paper level, not strong enough. He was 200 pounds — it would never happen.

When you’re on suicide watch, they put you in this white smock, a straight jacket. They know a person cannot be injurious to themselves.

The clothing they give you is a jump-in uniform. Everything is a dark brown color.

Could he have done it from the bed? No sir. There’s a steel frame, but you can’t move it. There’s no light fixture. There’s no bars.

They don’t give you enough in there that could successfully create an instrument of death. You want to write a letter, they give you rubber pens and maybe once a week a piece of paper.

Nothing hard or made of metal.

And there’s a cop at the door about every nine minutes, whether you’re on suicide watch or not.
 
I've been hearing that the government is planning to take everyone's guns for 20 years.

When the fuck is it actually gonna happen? This would have to be the longest and most convoluted plan in human history.
 
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timing is everything ooof

Yeah, and the right time was long ago. Columbine was the right time.

I'm not saying I want everyone's guns taken away, I'm talking from the perspective of how to best accomplish that goal hypothetically as a government.

Columbine was the right time, the rise of the Internet making it easier for resistance groups to coordinate, and many future mass shootings each resulting in fear of confiscation and more people buying and hiding guns has only made accomplishing mass disarmament much much harder over the years.

The right time has come and gone, and every year for some time now it's only gotten harder. So it makes absolutely no sense at all for a government aiming to disarm the public to keep manufacturing mass shootings,each carrying a risk of something going wrong in a way that can't be covered up, only to not actually start disarming people.

Conspiracy theory logic makes no sense.
 
Yeah, and the right time was long ago. Columbine was the right time.

I'm not saying I want everyone's guns taken away, I'm talking from the perspective of how to best accomplish that goal hypothetically as a government.

Columbine was the right time, the rise of the Internet making it easier for resistance groups to coordinate, and many future mass shootings each resulting in fear of confiscation and more people buying and hiding guns has only made accomplishing mass disarmament much much harder over the years.

The right time has come and gone, and every year for some time now it's only gotten harder. So it makes absolutely no sense at all for a government aiming to disarm the public to keep manufacturing mass shootings,each carrying a risk of something going wrong in a way that can't be covered up, only to not actually start disarming people.

Conspiracy theory logic makes no sense.

Yah Colombine was the right time to notice the same trend with sensationalized mass media covered "Mass Shootings". Multiple shooters, almost every time, coalescing into a "lone gunman" within a day or two. Of course I know you won't watch the video, because you don't look at media of people trying to convince you of things. lol

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It really honestly makes no sense that the government is staging mass shootings to try to take away guns when they could have easily done it after the first one, or the first few. It makes a whole lot more sense that there are a lot of seriously angry and disturbed people because our society is sick, who look at mass shooters as heroes/role models and want to go out the same way.

On the other hand, it is extremely easy for me to believe that a serial pedophile with links to various extremely wealthy and powerful individuals might get murdered in prison before he was able to spill the beans. Certainly wouldn't be the first time someone was killed in prison. I don't know if it's true, but if I had to guess right now I'd say that's what probably happened. It would be harder to believe an attempt wouldn't be made.

Some claims in this thread I don't feel the same way about (the Clintons doing weird blood/semen rituals? Uh... not gonna buy that), but Epstein murdered to protect powerful people? Yep, very plausible.
 
Have a look at the Christchurch LIVE feed that went out supposedly when it all went down.
Watching it was wiered but watching casings just disappear, No markings on walls from bullets, NO BLOOD on bodies huddled in corner of room where approx 20 were shot.
Hhmm guy who they captured Charged with 1 murder.
Prime Mistress wears Head gear as Symbol
Ole Eppy just done did what he wanted and slipped away never to be seen again.
No Consp theory just part of our now normal life.
 
Yah Colombine was the right time to notice the same trend with sensationalized mass media covered "Mass Shootings". Multiple shooters, almost every time, coalescing into a "lone gunman" within a day or two. Of course I know you won't watch the video, because you don't look at media of people trying to convince you of things. lol

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You're right, I won't watch it. If you wanna make an argument, great. But I won't debate YouTube video. It's impossible to have any kind of debate when one or both sides argue by simply throwing videos at each other.

So no, I won't watch it, because I don't believe in the concept of debating politics by linking videos to each other. I think it's stupid.

Argue the merits of your opinion yourself, but don't expect me to just watch endless propaganda videos of your choosing so I can't directly respond to your points.
 
You know what's really crazy, conspiracy theorists think we are all lemmings for watching mainstream media, yet they think they're enlightened because they watch endless YouTube videos parroting what they want to hear.

I bet the average conspiracy theorist watches more YouTube in a week than I watch mainstream news on a year.
 
Really all I want from conspiracy theorists is to stop trying to convert me. They're worst than religious zealots.

I don't so much mean here, I mean in real life. I seem to know a lot of conspiracy theorists and they can't seem to accept that aside from not believing what they believe, I wouldn't be interested in endlessly talking about it even if I did.
 
I am glad I stopped interjecting myself into the endless, circular, public discourse of modern politics. Unfortunately neither side is going to budge and nothing that is said will change anybodies view points or mind. Just reading all this makes my head hurt. Everybody scrambles to connect Epstein with this guy, that guy, whose guy, my guy and their guy. Unfortunately we will soon face the consequences of one guy and his decisions but I am content in my heart and soul because my actions and intentions are pure. It's not my fault that others don't see the evil within nor is it my job to remove the visage for they are willfully complicit. I just hope that we get a viable option but I honestly think our fate is sealed and written. Epstein is a pawn of little consequence in a larger game of thrones...... God bless America......
 
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