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Stimulants EMERGENCY: Please help, severe vassoconstiction can I take Propopanal 20mg?

Emma2373

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Will post reply with more details I just need this out NOW. Homeless man gave me some pills while back they were non recreational I apologize for s[pelling and grammar by the way please look over it anyway i rememebr one was betablocker found it and looked it up its 20mg propoponal I think my spellings off. Vassoconstriction veins in fingers looked 1-2 .. more like 1-3 normal sizee and did in arm too didnt check elsewhere. Was almost ok with mind but then brother came home screaming and i felt as I was going to die. Covered ears and hummed like 2 year od he yelled more I believe my blood presssure is very high though I have not meausred and my heart rate does not feel high which is weird I havent taken it but earlier it felt storng but not fast dont really feel it now. I am stressed and medical advise or instructions on the body would be the worst harm reduction ever right now as my brother talking about nerf guns made mental state go from proabably ok to oh my gucking god. Can I take the pill? Yes or no please no medical stuff the thoughts making me crigh its arlready hard to breath. Thank yu so much.
 
The other thing that owuld be helpful is how to calm down my mind as after it heard yellign it has not gone back socmepletely.
 
Being calm is helpful I think I need missions. I had felt better (by brtter i mean as though i would prolly be ok) (btw sorry about typing I have on gloves) but then the small incidident with my brother made me crazy. He is always yelling I don't usually react like that.. Basically I just read being too hot causes vasodialtin, which is something I've known to some degree but don't usually have at the front of my mind. As my body temp tends to fuck with me when this happens and cant regulate temp. However, knowing that overheating can kill neurons in the brain I usually go with being slightly cold. I think the blood pressure vaso issue is more important at the momentbut i put on hella warm shit and dont know if its' good or bad... I dont like feeling hot. I just remembere dhow earlier I went pee and almost left soap on hadn as the water was SO cold it hurt SO much and its the water I use every single day it wouldnt have changed temp so its me and it was scary. I started shivering afterwards, not violently but pretty decently.

Just went pee took brak from this and decided to test but without soap in case I couldnt take it I think it might have been better but I didnt put it on as high I dont think and I was hesitant (at first i had it full blast and submerged my hands) felt pain in finger tips.

Oh yea so will waearing layers help? slightly concerned I dont feel super hot rnI hav on sockss slippers long underwear pj pants then sweat pants a t shirt then an alpaca sweater and a over the ear warm hat and a face mask bandana type thing. I haveskiing toe warms and put them on my hand band will hae to take them off and then back on ssame with my hat I really hate my head feeling hot and I know about increased nuerotixity is it good to make myself hot I feel less pressure in my head I think butits a ll harder to breath could have to do with the face mask which is somewhat over my muth I think I ws sometimes breathing out of it. Sould I make everything hot but skip the hat or hand wamers?

I am used to having sudden change in temperature and inability to adjust in situations like this and usually deal with it by having a hat and socks or slippers that I take off/put on accordingly.

Again I really appreciate people who read this and shifts through this. In the first post I was so incredibly freaked. When I'm stresed about the body and heart normally small sudden noises and things moving cause me to feel startled and an unpleasant shooting of intensity through my heart. Sometimes the shootings so intesne I worry my one startle was enough to contribute to a future anueryism/ Today thbo, and a bug flew and hit my face, then got stuck in my hair for a sec. And the only think that bothered me was how it impeded my fielvd ovision for a secondd. I also ate basil that was past it;s prime cuz i reamember one time i freaked out and heard it would help. Im not sure fifth basil from tdy was super bad but it looked like rejected bits sokeone had decided not to use in cooking so i just ate that shit stems and all without reaky ven tasting it.

Omg sorry I did not realize how bad the typing had become I was holding the warm aoacks as my fingers are not alright. is caynenne pepper good? I took a jar and dipped fingers in which is soething i would never nrmally do, the whole unsanitary rudeness i mean. put finger on tongue didnt feel hot bjt felt soft did it sgain then freajed as i could feel poweder going up nose a bit and thought of the cinnioman challenge deaths. zKnda started drooling which I had been oing a lot earlier and freajed but the spice kicked in (it didnt feel that spcy, but i could feel endorphins and nose was running really thing liquidy stuff it actually felt like tears when you are crying really hard. Usually i can not feel endorphins from spice and my nose gets sniffly but not literaly running snot. I didnt even have that much. Can I hvae more is it worth it? I love spice on my tonue i dont know if i shuld put it in a drink or h have it on my tongue. You don't hvae to answer all these questions btw it is just that rright now typing is making me feel more calm and ok. I feel like I could handle eeing how drugs work, which is sadly siomething I feel that the more knowledge I gin the worse I feell. still hae ear ringing pretty bad but the weird fucking pressure (which was what got me so freaked in the first place,, as it was the onet hing i had not happenedd before and all the other things were common so i wondered what was ogin on 9btw squeezing towarmer in hand is reallphhelpful if finger tip touches. they say not to tohch toewarmers i remeber last winter (these things can be about 6 dollara for one thing n ski resorts and still a lot elsewhere somehow around 5years ahgo my mom got a big ass box of em and i use em but recalll not making kin ontact for too long so dont know what that says about me now or if fingers being cold or somejhwt normal is better. at first the hat kept making me hot now i am ratherc conerned as my head feels cold (i hsve not felt it but i mean i thhink it is it feels kinda weirddd) its aways hard to tell whats going on aas hand will be freezing snd head burning and hands cool down head but make me feel like it must be so hot and i can never tell if my cre temperature is crazy or y hands are ice. I hsve had a lot of people hug me or put their hands at the base of my beck with the fingers cokming just below my ears and getting wsrm. zOnce i was too hot thyey too cold they did that and i started shivering and they got warm weve tried again and it always happens but they have a low body temp. mine is a bit klow naturally mb lik 97 they actually have some thing that mi kinda forget but its 95 or. On the other hand Im LWAYS PUTTING MY HANDS ON PEOPS FOREHEADS WHEN THEY SRE TOO hot. Oh god im finger typing im sorry its so bad bjust foucising as i said was helping u dont have to read this nd can deete this threaad tomorrow or so i willl if i can as i feel really bad it is being ing down thi a community and i realy llike this olace.
 
Also, idk anything about propopanol. i usually research the fuck outta drugs befire i take them however right now i just eel that owuld lead to possible freak outs i am glad i am calmer bt the freakouts are ekinda unpredicable. Basically, would 20mg be a dangerous dose> I dtill feel bad.

zThid wwas my theory when i first freaked out to help calm down but ut didnt work much/ some reallu bad shit is happanening and im on th borde. I probabyly will be ok however a littlw bit of atress caused such alarming increases in blood pressure, oor probably just a small one but it sent me over the limit. THis means im reight near the limit ans im etting sick of this shit I actually had thougths of real ability seeing getting off this shit atleast letting my shit heal and it was the first time my thughts werent accompanied by but what about all those extra pills will they expire how much will u have to take not to waste em and also no idealizign thought of tolerance decrease. no i kissed my fingers and apolozid and feel awful. I think I was born witha better body than most peopels, more resiliant, like you can do shit to it and i have. I started crying and apaoliIng to all the thigns who came into this world really excited because we were so strong and cuious and unkillable and id always heal and be ok and ive had incidents when i was very little that might have caused death or brain damage i had none also many things as growing older and its always beein ok for years until a few months ago. My bodies so jice to me an s im so mean to it. I've been mean!im actually hopeful i can stop bing rogue as empanthy about hurting ohers is one thing †hat makes me think and feel a wish to quit with no motives. i view my physical body functions as anothre person who is like a guardian parent. a ffew months ago i had asked him just to take away all this shit and also show me soemthign else which i wanted very bady. No, im not talking about god. Anyways, later that night I was feeling so horrible down. It wasnt related to the stuff that had happened earlier i dont even remember what that was. There was no triger, or perhaps my mind has blocked it out. It blocks out painful memories and sometimes gives them back a few years later but theyre deporsonalized. Its like finding a videao yourself being filmed and u didnt even know uwere and u can see the situation but cannot feel it at all. tis strange. anyways that night I just felt the overwhelming feeling of wishing to disappear. To have never existed and never caused any pain, as well as selfish reasons as wanting to escape. It was that kind of mental feeling that hits with an intense physical one,, its so empy and hopreless u dont really process thoughts. my mouth makes this strange shape when it happens like it is open but i feel like the corner or my lips go far back and its not so wide. ou cant rally breath as yyuoure mouth is open and its like sobbing but with no noise. However , it has nothing to do with trying not to make a peep. I was crying and shaking and my mouth was in that jerky postition that goes with it when i sunk to the floor, back sliding against the wall. I hadn't felt that awful in such a long time. I clasped my hand together, and, shaking, asked for help. I dont know if i said help specifiacally, but something along of the ligns of peace, or whats best, or the strength too do what i need to do, anyways whatever it was it was much more intricate than help, but basically asling for it. Acutally it might of been a one word thing like im sorrry, or please, or show me, or such. Anyways i clasped real real hard and sent all the vibes I had. I don't pray too often but when I do it is hardly ever for myself. I only started praying when my love was in a situation where there were about 6 very real possiblbilies of different ways for him to go and 3 of them especially were a daily battle. I'd pray allt he time. He got through it there have actually been moments where I've felt something. I'll never forget one night when I gave a warneing which is osmething i never did. Anyways I prayed for him all. the. fucking. time. It was more like send ing really good vibes. I started doing it for other people whenever they were in toruble or i hard about them or soemthing bad or someone looked sad. When i hear of very sad situations, ones that can never really be "Ok," i Just ask that they can find soem semblence of peace. Anyways I feel as it is so rude to pray for myself. I remember when I tried AA and they would talk about praying. I tried it a few times and enjoyed it in a way, especially after i discovered i like to clasp my hands real tight and kiss them at the end, but never asked for shit like to stay sober as I felt like it would make all my other wishes for others become ungranted and it as fucking rude. Im not saying it is rude I mean I prolly have an issue that its hard for me to do it not people who do pray for themselvses all the time. Although I doubt it is as good feeling. My point is I felt real bad to ask fr help, and straight up too. On blu e moons somethings I'll say a bunch of stuff and say, if its not too much, could u help me find the motviation or the willpower tomorrow to __. thank you. kiss. So there i am. grasping my hans so fucking goddamn tightly. and i give them their sealing kiss with all the good vibes i could muster. That's when I looked up and opened my eyes, you know, like people on the floor do when theyre looking for something out there, and I saw it. I saw the answer. Instantly all my pain went away and I felt a sick and powerfully beautiful feeling engulf me. Why had I been crying a minute before? Why had I thought there was nothing beyoond this world? So I wasn't crazy in thinking I felt it would happen when I asked earlier? I saw the answer to the question I had asked earlier that day when I had called on the devil. I can't really describe the feelings I experienvesd as I sat on the ground. It was surreal in the sense that I had had some experiences in the past that have made me believe in good and bad vibes, and felt like there were things out there greater. Keep in mind I used to be a huuge fucking atheist. I still am a bit I like scienve idk what I am. But the sense that there was soemthing and i felt it was mind blowing,i was so happy to have the answer that i idnt even need it right then an dfelt happy and proceeded to go and eat some yummy flavor ed penautes. However, the whole time there was an underlying sense of "silly girl, you asked ME for help and now you go and turn your back on me for a guy who wont even give you what you want?! Just some you need this but don't want it shit?! Hahahahaha. Oh boy. None of that here. Here's your silly present and no don't worry I listened to all your conditions involving no one o r thing thing else in anything to come of it.. Have fun now. Let me know if you wanthing else. We're going to be together a long time, so no need to catch up now as I know you prolly got other things on your mind."

Literally ever since then I feel shit has been happeneing even in situations that I had considered mild! it's not only drug related either. But seriusly ever since that night I gained physical effects whcih i never really had before . My mind could be slightly innaccurate. It's possible this shit happened some point after this and not like the next fucking day, but it definately wasnt before. Sometimes I even feel like if I do something bad other people get my symptoms and dont deserve it so i can be ok. Kinda delusional probably.Acids the only drug I can have without any negative affects. I mean even weed can be unpleasant if im at the end of being eal stemmy in terms of heart rate. I don't know why but acid is the only thing that clears my mind I feel when it gets irrational. Just in case his is not clear i would hate taking 25i or another psychedlic to clear my head. It just gets rid of all my irrational thoughts and has this honest somber truth. For instance, once I had been doing a few other things and while tipping I tried to do that but tomorrow thing yady yada and my mind asked yea you could, but there's a good chance you won't. they weren't that bad but they weren't ideal. (as i either think tings are way worse or way less bad then they are) No need to feel awful if you do though. Seems kind of silly to go through this every day. Why stress about this now? If you really are as "committed" to this as you say, then you'll have had it happen fairly soon. Remember, even if a habit is unhealthy that doesn't mean constantly planning on changing it isn't. It wasn't like my mind told me this but I just saw it and everything is clear and reasonable. I can also see myself from a third person perspective. I love observing how ridiculous humanity is, I saw something one night as I could see all the ulterior motives and it got me thnking, but I can also see how I fit into it all. I feel like I can see as god. I also feel like if I truly were god and humans were my greatest invention I'd most likely off myself. I ate 6 tabs one time while feeling suicidal and was alone it was fucking dumb yea but I'm impulsive. I called a friend once I realized prolly ripping a chunch off and eating it wasnt so bright and they came but they were kinda passed out before the peak. It was a great trip! I remember it all started to hit when I was getting cigaretes. I onyl had a dollar 50 so I went to the conor store while my friend was in riteaid. I was laughing and giggling and so into life. I thought about how I've heard people say oh I would never go there while I was tripping, it make me bhave an awful trip! I thought this was funny. See, there's this area around my house that really isnt all that bad. Sure, someone might try and sell you some grass or percs. I dont have people say girl boy or ready to me really cuz hopefully i dont look like im about all that. Just once in a blue moon they will. And you gotta be cool with declining anyone hitting on you but in a playful way or else its just bad vibes all around. Anyways I felt about how flimsy my cigarettes suddently felt. I spent an hour putting one in and out of my mouth without lighting or, amazingly, getting it wet. Anyways I thought about how so many people who lived in a mile radiuos of me would mention how this area was very bad and you should never go there alone as there are black people! I mean come on guys!! There are black people!! All girls will get raped and boys robbed. RUN FFOR THE FUCKING HILLSSS. Of course, they don't say this explicitly. No. That would be rude. But man oh man, the look on some peoples face cracks me up when i tell them how they can take the bus and even though late at night its not very often. But itll get them home (to people who live near by, theres a college there so they dont have cars, or just people asking if i have car yet since a few people my age have gotten them but most not yet) anyways the looks on their faces when they hear I walk home, boy! I wish everyone could laugh like that. The fact is the only time I get sketched coming home is in this little stratch where it's right before the hospital. Not because it is sketchy at all but because it is kind of dark and the houses have stairs leading up and seem far back and shadows live there. Anyways it might have been the fact that although I had been tripping before, it started in the car in a small seat with my brothers old nanyny and family friend who I hadn't seen in a long time and I feel might have been expected to produce bad beginning vibes. But when it really started to all hit I was just so entertained by that thought, maybe it played a part in the good take off. But it just feels like its impossible to have a bad time on LSD because there's nothing to fear. Normally when I am stressed or anxious it's because of fear let enter me yet avoid being totally honest or finding out answers in case they comfirm my fear. Acid also is nice in the since that with this ability to be honest with mysel I'm also honest about the consequences of a bad outcome and how while they are bad they would be managable. As normally I feel anything in the body is the end of the world or nothing at all and i have to chose with. My mind on acid is just so muc more fucking beautiful than on anything else. Ok long rants really got rid of the fear and stress I've had and I feel much better. I guess I'll see if people said anything asn my body still feels fucked, and some new things have started happeneing. On the other hand I no longer feel that I am going to "die" tonight. I might check to sese if my veins look any bigger they were cfucking scary before. I think I have cumpulsions its so hard to ever sstop doing smething. MUUSUT. STOp. pressing. my awsum fta keys. NO. BAD. GO.
 
You're saying 1 20mg Propranolol did this to you? I call bullshit. It's a beta blocker, it calms you down.

If you took something else a homeless person gave you, go to the ER, cause it could be anything, and from your reaction, it's not good.
 
No. I'm saying a homeless man who I give cigarettes and such to as he's nice gave me some of his medications and told me there were valium, which he honestly thought they were. I don't know how though sadly. Anyways, I never take pills without looking up the ID. Ever. One was to lower BP, another an antipsychotic, and one a beta blocker. I did not want them and realized he needed them but when I got back out (it was like 3 am to begin with and one of the pills had a faded label so it took a minute) he was gone and I thought oh well and just set them aside, as I felt weird throwing them out. Years of other drugs which I'd always condisered to mild to start causing real problems and lack of sleep and good food over the past few days plus Idk it feels like something weird.. I wanted the propranolol to stop all this. I don't know if I still need it I still feel off but most of the numbeness and tingles and tiredness in my arms especially my selft whent away as neck pain except not muscular neck pain (I keep holding it in the wierdest position) but the strong painful neck pulse is gone and I still have ringing ears they might be stronger but the weird pressure that was in one and when I pressed the earflap to my neck the sound of static trapped on the inside isn't as bothersome. However my muscles feel tighter than they eveyr have I don't know how badly I held them weirdly and my head feels oddly cold (normally it gets way too hot way too easily on them, yet when I do things to change the situation it's fine, and when it gets chilly it's not in the weird weak way as now. I hope I don't have a fucking blood clot in my ass. I'll hallucinate when I look out my window but its not too bad. There are always creatures in that damn window, however they stay in the pain right now they're outside of it. Oh well.

Edit: sorry i thought I hit reply on yours felonious monk. I don't know how to edit to make it so though :/
 
So you took the antipsychotic?

Going to the ER is probably a good idea. Or if you can calm yourself down a little and you have some Xanax or something, try to just sleep it off.
 
I would say don't take medical advice from an Internet forum, but you take unknown pills from a homeless guy...go to the hospital.
 
I just typed something and it got deleted. I will try again but it's so hard it makes it worse.
I have NOT taken drugs from a homeless person.
I HAVE done amphetamines which were my own.
I HAVE a pill from a homeless person which is a beta blcoker propaopanal.
Since I do not know much and know if I mess up the results could be deadly as I already feel like something is going to give I have NOT taken it.
However, if propopanol 20mg would be safe for SEVERE vasoconstriction and I assume BP I WANT TO KNOW if taking it now would HELP.
I have NO amphetamines in my system now according to half life but the vasoconstriction and other things are TERRIFYING.

I am not trying to be rude it's just I felt a lot better, and by that I mean like I was not going to die just probably be fucked, typing about it makes it worse. I need to go. I am curious about this pill but my bodies twtiching now it's hard to breath I can't explain mre.

Earlier it started with my mouth foaming when I could not swallow or spit. I forgot to breath and when I would it would feel so narrow through my nose and incomplete through my mouth. THere was a disturbing thing with my ears.

However, the thing terrifying me is my HEAD which I annot explain it might make my BP explode and would appreciate otheres not to mention.

I would love replies but please only reply with: YES, you should take propoponal to help with last vascular effects even after amphetamines have worn off or NO, you should not take propoponal to help with last vascular effects even after amphetamines have worn off

The propopanal pill I have is 20mg.
 
I read a bit about it and the mixed reviews made me not want to. I think the fact I believed typing about symptoms caused them to worsen was that I transfered rooms when I started and I believe it was colder. I have put on more layers to stop the constriction and it feels slightly brain toxic hot in my head but not like I might suddently die so much. I believe I have a blood clot in my right back upper thigh. If I test skin blood to see how thick it is would that be the same as the blood in my vein? I don't want to test a vein I am so tor I feel like losing blood would help but I have not red cross shit here and I feel most methods would add additional strain. I would feel so much better if I had less blood though but if my blood is not normal loooking i might be off worse. How cn I stop this horrible vassoconstriction seriously everything else may be in my head but I do have SEVERE SEVERE SEVERE vassoconstriction and do not know what to do/
 
If you are having a medical issue, go to the hospital like everyone here has recommended.
Bluelight is not an emergency medical service and we can't advise you whether to take the pill or not.
 
You seem to be looking for a solution in a pill. Call an advice nurse in your area/go to ER. Get someone on the phone and start walking to ER in your area.
I took propranolol for months with thyroid storm, my heart rate was all over the map. This is very different though. I wouldn't take anything without supervision.

Good luck!
 
Thank you everyone I just wanted to say I was ok. I believe I may have had a bit of a mental issue. I was wearing glasses and a hat and the hat was pressing them into my head. Each time I took them off I would feel relief of the head symptoms but would put them back in and forget. I had been having visual and auditory hallucinations and paranoid delusions on the days leading up to it and recognized them as such, although that did not stop the fear from the delusional aspect.

Since I've always been fairktbgiid at recognizing issues of perception and other things primarily caused by sleep deprivation I did not consider the fact that the sensations in my body may also be in my head, which caused me to freak out. Surely I was not "healthy", although it now seems I was not in danger of having a stroke, which I believed I was after reading about a specific type that morning. From there it went down hill.

The body is mysterious and powerful and it's important to be aware of ourselves. However, I know it can be very difficult. When in an altered state of mind it can be difficult to access ones medical situation. While being educated on the body is vital in reducing harm and knowing when you are in trouble it also can lead to paranoia. For instance, I wrote off hearing very disturbing things and sensing my friend morphing into a werewolf who was about to strike fairly easily, but failed to consider that a feeling of pressure on my head could be imagined, or caused by something external like wearing something too tight.

It is hard to pin point the source of many things while sleep deprived. While it may be easy for me to recognize that sounds coming from one location but being heard in multiple others are not real, I struggle to consider that seemingly internal body malfunctions may be caused by something external. For instance, improper clothing for the weather, tight head wear, sitting on something uncomfortable.

While real medical emergencies should not be overlooked, it is important not to freak out. Thank you for your advice. If I had gone to a hospital I imagine they would have given me benzos, a black stamp, and some medical bills and sent me on my way. While I am grateful I did not go, the consequences of having not fine if I had needed to would be far worse. It terrifies me to think I most likely would not seek medical help if I needed so out of fear and embarrassment. Hopefully my thoughts are helpful to someone.

Take care =)
 
A small dose of beta-blockers would be indicated in this case. Do not take too much as the beta-blockers tend to get paradoxical effects at higher doses due to NE binding at alpha sites once it cannot bind to any beta-adrenergic site. So keep the dose low and you should be good to go, taking a warm bath may also help with the vasoconstriction.
 
They are and I'm glad you are okay,I was wondering of your outcome, and if you decided to take that blue pill.:) Yeah, my mind can take me to some dangerous places if I follow it.. <3
 
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