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sam Ketchum

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So Im big into running, clears the head, boost self esteem, yada yada,
so anyway, on average when im emotionally stable, i can run a fairly good run, and if i have the right song playing, i can get a slight runners high type feeling i would call it, but when i have something on my mind, like anxiety, it fuels me soo much more, like it feels like a drug, I get an almost intense cold chill feeling all through my body, and I feel like i could run forever, but the thing is, i almost only get this feeling when im like... really really depressed or worried... and i like it. alot, so much it almost makes me want to feel shitty all the time... anyone know whats going on?
 
So Im big into running, clears the head, boost self esteem, yada yada,
so anyway, on average when im emotionally stable, i can run a fairly good run, and if i have the right song playing, i can get a slight runners high type feeling i would call it, but when i have something on my mind, like anxiety, it fuels me soo much more, like it feels like a drug, I get an almost intense cold chill feeling all through my body, and I feel like i could run forever, but the thing is, i almost only get this feeling when im like... really really depressed or worried... and i like it. alot, so much it almost makes me want to feel shitty all the time... anyone know whats going on?

Well as far as running longer and harder with anxiety fueling you - this is simple to me - my anxiety turns to anger , I'm guessing your brain is releasing more adrenaline than you actually need due to the increase of emotions due to your state.

As far as wanting to feel shitty - few things come to mind bro: first off you linked this feeling as a good feeling while running, being able to push stronger and longer etc.. well that carries over, so your brain might be saying, "let's trick him into getting depressed , he already loves how it feels when he runs ..."
^ not most scientific , but hope it makes sense ^

Also - endorphins get wrecked during actual depression/borderline personality disorders etc - if you are ACTUALLY suffering from any of these types , that may well be your issue as well. I'd recommend a psychotherapist - let him find an area that would best fit you to get help within the psychology / medicine community.

Best of luck - btw i dont know how you like running man , i cant stand the shit hahaha.
 
:)Well thanks for that, very helpful, lemme rephrase, I didn't mean like overall depressed- shitty, I always cherish life, but still have heartache/anxiety.( but none the less still overwhelming and unpleasant)
just like been involved with this girly lately and she is really fucking with my head, like the nervousness and stuff that comes from that has been the main culprit.
 
:)Well thanks for that, very helpful, lemme rephrase, I didn't mean like overall depressed- shitty, I always cherish life, but still have heartache/anxiety.( but none the less still overwhelming and unpleasant)
just like been involved with this girly lately and she is really fucking with my head, like the nervousness and stuff that comes from that has been the main culprit.

Ahh my bad - I read that wrong brother ! Haha. Okay well it sounds like you got the lady problems on the forefront - my dude I feel you there - trust me on this. Haha. Without understanding about your relationship the best thing I can suggest is that you always continue to run, workout however - and remember you are bettering yourself. This is all you can control. Do not worry about her, if you care for her this much, tell her the deal - if she isn't good for you - you will know soon. Then you can start moving on with it my bro. Best of luck.
 
Well the thing is-
She is like the coolest girl i have ever met, into the same music as i, same drugs as i, same style as i, wellsorta, but i have a assholedickhead mutual friend thats going for her too, and I think i have better chemistry with her, like amazing chemstry, but then there is times when I don't, and i have no idea if half the stuff she says is real or if she is just screwing with me :P
but yea good point, i guess i should wait this one out.
I guess i get low morale fairly easy.. :P
 
So Im big into running, clears the head, boost self esteem, yada yada,
so anyway, on average when im emotionally stable, i can run a fairly good run, and if i have the right song playing, i can get a slight runners high type feeling i would call it, but when i have something on my mind, like anxiety, it fuels me soo much more, like it feels like a drug, I get an almost intense cold chill feeling all through my body, and I feel like i could run forever, but the thing is, i almost only get this feeling when im like... really really depressed or worried... and i like it. alot, so much it almost makes me want to feel shitty all the time... anyone know whats going on?

Thats pretty cool bro thats the SAME EXACT way I am. When I went running one day a few months back in wds, I got the same anxiety high to push myself untill I fainted in the summer heat from dehydration.

The thing is people are mixing up 2 chemicals here, endorphins AND adrenaline.
That cold feeling you get through your body should accompany a tingling sensation in your head, thats adrenaline, not endorphins.

The reason you get it cause anxiety will stimulate your adrenal glands to release adrenaline when your body is in "flight mode". Imagine it like you're running, then you see someone pointing a gun at you (anxiety; which you are simulating through mere anxious thought when running - not by an actual gun) adrenaline surges to the point of making you high... which is precisely whats happening with you when you run.
That anxiety trips a nice release of adrenaline, not endorphins. Endorphins play different roles, like the mood increase and what not. But its always more adrenaline because if endorphins could actually trump adrenaline, you wouldn't really be in an anxious state to begin (you tend to notice the endorphins more when you actually stop running, adrenaline goes down, and your body relaxes/mood elevates). This is natures way of "coming down" from violence basically in the wild... thousands of years ago.

Hope this helps!

edit: one more thing, a lot of people hold the misconception that when you get shot somehow endorphins are what kills the pain, thats really bullshit imo. Endorphins DO play a major role in moderating pain, but adrenaline itself is a MAJOR pain killer. The fact is, when you get traumatically injured, both adrenaline AND endorphins surge, but I still personally believe the majority of the pain killing is from adrenaline, not endorphins affecting opiate receptors.
I realize how opiates kill pain, but a lot of people don't realize how speed kills pain either, and in my own experience, when on speed my skin literally feels numb, I can burn it with a cigarette and not feel anything.. opiates don't do that, they seem to numb specific regions of the body (more joints, muscles, etc), while adrenaline works on other areas. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm prob going to go read about it now cause I just confused myself lol..
 
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