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Ego Loss on Methoxetamine

ok I 'holed' for the first time in my life. Never had much dissociative experience and no basis of comparison. It wasn't scary but I've always been able to handle really intense psychedllic experience. I loved it. I felt like I was in the game pong, but the other paddle and ball were gone. "Where's the ball dude...up...no down...where's the ball?" That along with all kinds of ego death and at one point I felt the presence of god, which is an insanley cheesy thing to say on drugs, but I really felt like for the first time in my life I knew god, not rushing to church or anything but, yeah...crazy shit. Oh and super foggy today. I had to drink two rockstar 2X caffienes to get moving this morning. I know stupid to do massive dissociatives during the week, but hey I am still functioning exponentially better than if I had drank a fucking six pack. I really like the hole, I had never experienced anything like it, and all the years I dogged K without giving it a shot, well I am eating my fucking words.
 
I think the potential is seriously there with this one...but I don't know if I'll be doing much further research on these types, my recent experiances with both this and ketamine have been markedly cold, clinical, and free from any euphoria. Very neutral.
 
Harvester, I don't find dissociatives euphoric either, but there is a literal warmth that you are rushed with as you come up on an intramuscular ketamine dose, at least ime. Dissociatives are my favorite class of drug. Euphoria isn't necessary for me, because I fall entirely into my head, dissecting myself, unraveling my ego... It is a very neutral experience, calm in its objectivity, humbling and flattering at once. I am at once flowing through myself, reduced to little cells of ME, a fiber in the fabric of the universe, connected to the overlapping realities of everything, and a piece in an elaborate game of chess with my mind.

It seems to me that cold and clinical is just the nature of MXE to me, although I have only had two trials with it, the first intranasal, the second intramuscular.

I would recommend ketamine or DXM over MXE for ego death. I have definitely had my ego bitchslapped by those two. IM MXE had a little fun with my ego, but it was far more lucid and less confusing for me, as it was less immersive.
 
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I would give it a few more goes Ash if i were you. I find it a little hit and miss at any dosage, but when it HITS it's an amazing chem. It seems not so easy to get into the god/everything/ego loss headspace as it is with Ket.
 
Good to see you here. ;)

It IS interesting. I don't think I'll be buying it again after I exhaust what I have, though.

Did you ever dose it IM? I need to find some reliable info on an intramuscular dosage range for deep exploration... It appears to be from 40mg-100mg...
 
ashxcore said:
Good to see you here. ;)

It IS interesting. I don't think I'll be buying it again after I exhaust what I have, though.

Did you ever dose it IM? I need to find some reliable info on an intramuscular dosage range for deep exploration... It appears to be from 40mg-100mg...
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Sublingual took me deeper than i would of ever imagined, definatly have a go of using it this way.
 
ashxcore said:
Good to see you here. ;)

It IS interesting. I don't think I'll be buying it again after I exhaust what I have, though.

Did you ever dose it IM? I need to find some reliable info on an intramuscular dosage range for deep exploration... It appears to be from 40mg-100mg...
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Howdy Ash ;)

I have only taken it via IM so thats all I can judge this one on. 40 - 60mg is the very highest I would go. Any higher and I blackout or go completely lala delusional. :!
 
Thanks for the input ash. I really think it's worth doing more research, I guess I was hoping for something more recreational. Also, it seems like im may be the way to go with these, as opposed to putting it up the ole snoot.
 
Methoxetamine can take you weird places, including well past having lost your individual ego. More than once I've experienced being vibrations, being music, being other people, having the feeling of being infinity, being in multiple variations of my same ego, and various other complete nonsense. I always inject IM, and really only get this far after my 2nd or 3rd hole for the night. This stuff takes me as far as I'm comfortable going.
 
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Methoxetamine can take you weird places, including well past having lost your individual ego. More than once I've experienced being vibrations, being music, being other people, having the feeling of being infinity, being in multiple variations of my same ego, and various other complete nonsense. I always inject IM, and really only get this far after my 2nd or 3rd hole for the night. This stuff takes me as far as I'm comfortable going.
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Very, very interesting. What dosages were these?

Yes, the first and last time I k-holed thrice in one night, I was not sure if or how I was going to reintegrate into myself, I had lost that much touch with my ego. Shit was wild, to say the least.
 
ashxcore said:
Very, very interesting. What dosages were these?

Yes, the first and last time I k-holed thrice in one night, I was not sure if or how I was going to reintegrate into myself, I had lost that much touch with my ego. Shit was wild, to say the least.
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I have a decent amount of tolerance. I started out holing on 30-40mg IM, but now if I've used multiple days in a row it can take as much at 70mg. I've done these kind of doses multiple times throughout the night, but its hard to know exactly how many because I usually only remember the first couple times the next day. Also I'm pretty familiar with navigating dissociatives having had way too much experience with DXM when I was younger.

I once thought I was lost out there myself, but I'm pretty sure it was because it was the only time I was forced to interact with my girlfriend on a really ridiculous dose. My girlfriend was convinced that I'd gone crazy (can't blame her, she usually doesn't get to see me when I'm gone because I wait for her to fall asleep) and I was pretty open to suggestion at the time so I definitely thought I'd become schizophrenic and wasn't coming back. Anyway, it's a lot easier for me to find my way back at the end of the night when I'm doing it by myself. Luckily I don't feel like there's any risk of me being gone for very long on this stuff. Usually I find myself stable much quicker than I would even say on a hefty dose of psychedelics. Last night I had a wonderful experience with how strange it is that anything exists at all.

Anyway, I'm making a lot of noise.. guess that means I don't want to do my homework..

lol @ thrice I didn't catch that until above pointed it out.
 
Why is the word thrice so funny? Or maybe urban is a fan of the band?

I don't know how my tolerance is, but I have gone through 2g of ket in the past...two or three weeks, so that might play a role. I don't seem to have a tolerance from somewhat frequent (maybe 2x a month) DXM use 2 years ago. I guess that wouldn't really be enough to create a permanent tolerance anyhow.

I'm thinking that I should inject 60mg IM. Whatever dose I injected the night before last was at least 36mg, because that is how much I weighed and put onto the spoon after spilling an unknown quantity of MXE/saline solution from an original 60mg. It showed me what COULD BE, but had missed the mark quite a bit of being THERE. And silly little me used the same cotton filter that she used with her ket solution, so there was maybe a bit of ket in that...probably not much, though.
 
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^^^^ My preferred dose is 70 mg for an "entheogenic" experience. I've done as much as 100, and it was wild, but it felt too abrasive on my body. I've got a permanent tolerance to NMDA antagonists from a 15 year relationship to ketamine and friends. I haven't done ketamine in a long time (as it doesn't work anymore...the dosages required just knock me out) and I assumed that the tolerance would extend to methoxetamine. But strangely, the tolerance doesn't extend 100% from once arylcyclohexylamine to another.

Methoxetamine can take you just as far as ketamine; it seems about twice as potent by weight. But, it is much more stimulating and dehydrates me a bit more. I have had some amazing experiences with it.
 
I went for 70. I remember very little of the experience, but it ripped my ego a new one in a way that a singular ketamine dose has not. Still very cold and clinical, less tactile, less visual, and less immersive, though. But very interesting. Memory loss seems to be more than ketamine too.
 
Hmmm, Mighta overshot the mark with 70, as many can recall more of the experience than with ketamine. And when I have taken a bit too much recall is the first thing to go :) But I agree 100% that it is more cold, clinical, and immersive than ketamine. Absolutely.
 
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