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effects from ativan... very psychodelic

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Well last night, a friend took .5 ativan ( lorazapam) and then snorted .25 more.. about 10 hours later in the day, that night, she was smoking weed and began to hallucinate. Crazy visualizations when her eyes were closed.... very organized and very neon .She has done L and mushrooms many times and this was quite different and intense!! and fun!!! anyone have an idea what was going on
 
This doesn't seem to be the correct subforum. Benzodiazapines have no psychedelic effects. I've used oxazepam, alprazolam, diazepam, clonazepam and phenazepam (I've been a benzo addict for 7 years) in all imaginable places at every imaginable time. They don't produce such effects as you described. They just don't.

The only thing I can think if of is the weed.

Snorting benzos...Are you serious?
 
You can not definitively say what idiosyncratic effects benzodiazepines can cause in people.

And yeah, people snort benzos, it happens.
 
sigh... ativan has a nasal bio availability of 73ish%... the highest of all benzos.. and i ate .5 and snorted .25 bc it shattered.. thank you cyanoide.... But i googled it this morning and i am def not the only one that this has happened too.
 
all i know is it was a very well organized trip that was only in my mind, not body.. and i was able to control the entire thing very calmly.. most likely bc of the ativan...
 
I have heard reports of certain benzodiazepines acting as frank hallucinogens likely via a GABAa mediated pathway (think zolpidem), though it is very uncommon. Some people just don't respoind well to them.
 
Sekio..., do you know anyone that has happened to? or do you know any links about similar topix?
 
yeah everyone is so different when it comes to the effects... i personally get the feeling of almost like... adderall when i take klonopin or clonzapam.. but ativan or xanax is fine... very strange stuff! Valium is fun too.. But in order for me to enjoy a benzo is must be taken far and inbetween.. which has been nice to be able to control that seeing as though i was addicted to xanax for 9-10 months about 4 years ago and ended with doses close to 12 mgs a day... eeeek!
 
I was prescribed ativan for a few months. The better portion of these months were spent seriously thinking NOTHING AT ALL, looking at porn and smoking weed lol. Lonely times indeed but I seriously didn't give a fuck, at all. I have no idea how that shit is prescribed for any reason, its like a pill that makes you not care about anything.. Why there is a need for such a drug I do not know but I'm just glad I decided to quit pharmaceuticals.

I have nothing to contribute, I never hallucinated when I was on ativan I just thought I'd share my experience with it. Probably the least psychedelic drug I've ever been on.
 
I have found some GABAergics to increase visual static and general trippiness (mostly GHB/GBL, but to an extent others as well), so it's not totally crazy that this would happen. Zaleplon is the most amazingly hallucinogenic drug I've ever taken (it's a z hypnotic, brand name Sonata).

sekio said:
Hallucinations upon dosing with diazepam are fairly rare but they do occur. A friend of mine is unable to take Valium because it makes her delerious.
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I was aware hallucinations were a common side effect of GABAA-rho agonists (mainly the z hypnotics, especially zaleplon. Muscimol also seems to act this way though it's main action is at the same site as GABA itself rather than BZD receptors like the z drugs. Correct me if any of my info is incorrect) but I didn't know benzos displayed that idiosyncratic reaction, going to read that paper you linked presently.
 
Actually, as ridiculous as it sounds, this has happened to me many years ago with lorazepam. I took several before watching American Beauty, and I was put in to a very strange place of time distortion and other weirdness. It is kind of the same type of experience that zopiclone or zolpidem can produce, and it only happens the first time you take them after not having used a benzo for a long while. The experience to me is characterized by a very dreamlike, almost delerious state, where you get lost inside your own mind whilst still being wide awake and sensing things. I wouldn't characterize this as "psychedelic" in the classical 5-HT sense. Hallucinatory, yes.

I once took some zolpidem and I was seeing lesbians come out of the wall. Another time with it there were rotating smiley faces made of pure light spinning on the ceiling and beckoning me to join them. Yet another time I was having a conversation with my rubber plant, which was moving it's leaves and transmitting it's thought to me telepathically. I've seen ethereal beings made of rainbows and light walking up and down my room before whilst I've been "tripping" on zolpidem. Zopiclone is similar, but more hypnagogic. Again, you cannot get this to work two nights in a row, or if you have taken benzodiazepines in the past few weeks or months. It's also not reliable, as in you cannot expect that you will definitely trip if you take x amount.

I've also personally witnessed other people on zolpidem clearly hallucinating. I was with a couple of friends once, one of which took a large dose of zolpidem, and he turned in to a complete wreck. He was talking to the speakers, having conversations with people who weren't there. We had to carry him downstairs, and help him over the garden wall to take a piss in the alley, in which he shit himself!

I also have had some strange experiences with diazepam. A couple of times, when I took it after not having used it for ages, I would actually get CEVs of blobs of colour. Nothing spectacular of course in comparison to 5-HT psychedelics, but for a benzo it's pretty amazing. The most intense experience was when I combined diazepam with promethazine (can't remember the dose) and I was entranced by a colourful lightshow behind my eyelids until I fell asleep.
 
Lorazepam makes me hallucinate. Every time, even by itself. I get mad, colorful tracers but they're coupled with nausea. For that reason I don't really like Ativan. If i smoke weed on top of it, the hallucinations are even more pronounced.
 
I remember the first couple times I took it when I was walking and suddenly stopped it looked like the floor would jiggle for a second. This would happen every time I stopped walking.
 
After taking 15 mg of diazepam or 2 mg of lorazepam, while playing a video game, I notice the colours to be more intense, more colourful, but benzo are not psychedelics to me, its a hell of a physical addiction and a horrible downer...
 
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