Ecstasy kills boy who made anti-drug film

has anybody died from dehydration while on E?

i mean how can you NOT drink water? you get thirsty as fuck.
 
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Schoolboy in ecstasy death learned to take drug from films

SCHOOLBOY Ben Hennessy, who died after taking four-and-a-half crushed ecstasy tablets, learned how to take it from films, an inquest has been told.

A 16-year-old friend of the St Albans teenager, who cannot be named but has been convicted of possession of drugs in relation to the tragedy, was questioned on Tuesday at Hatfield Coroners' Court.

He told coroner Edward Thomas they had taken the "bombs" folded cigarette papers full of powder while walking home from Batchwood Hall nightclub on the night of July 29 and the next day in a park.

He said: "We just thought we would do it. Ben took more because he did bigger bombs than me the Rizla was bigger."

Dr Thomas told him he was lucky to be alive himself.

Pathologist Nathaniel Cary, who carried out a post mortem after Ben had died at Hemel Hempstead Hospital, said: "Ecstasy is like a great big game of Russian roulette.

"It doesn't kill everybody, but it kills regularly."

Three other teenagers who had been with Ben on his last afternoon described how they had seen him take the drug, but agreed he had not tried it previously.

His mother Shirley Bullen, who lives in Francis Avenue, asked his 18-year-old friend [snipped] why she had not told her he had been taking pills.

She said: "If you had told me, he would not be where he is now."

Ben told his brother, Mr Lee Wesley, he was pale and shaking because he had a cold.

But later Mr Wesley heard about the tablets, found Ben on Batchwood Golf Course and took him to their grandparents' home in nearby Green Lane.

Paramedic Christine Rainey described how she had been called to their address to find Ben hallucinating and raving incoherently in the garden.

She needed Mr Wesley's help to get him into an ambulance and rush him to hospital.

As they arrived he had a fit and then his heart stopped.

Despite being resuscitated by casualty staff, his temperature was soaring to dangerous levels as the amphetamines wreaked havoc on his organ functions and he was certified dead at 6.52pm.

The post mortem examination revealed three different amphetamine compounds and evidence of earlier cannabis use.

Detective Stewart Gunstone said that two other people had been arrested after the incident, but no evidence had been found to justify charging them with supplying the pair with ecstasy.

Recording a verdict of accidental death, Dr Thomas said: "The heartbreak for the family is incalculable."

He told Ben's relatives: "We want to minimise the number of families who have to go through the agony and pain that you have gone through."

About a month before his death, Ben was one of several children, all under 16, who appeared in a short educational film warning youngsters of the dangers of drugs.

It was made in St Albans and was first shown at Hatfield UCI in early August only days after he died.

The film was made by police in co-operation with other agencies and was funded by the Government through the Communities Against Drugs programme. It has also been shown in schools, but is not being used now and there are no plans to use it again.

As well as appearing in the film, Ben helped with some of the camera work.


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I want to know how people under the age of 16 think they know enough about drugs to educate others. That's a danger in itself...no movie can teach about drugs, only spending the time researching it yourself can. It's sad, all he needed was a 10 minute search on Blue Light and he'd be alive. Maybe he was doing meth or taking Adderall/Dexedrine at the same time, this could possibly cause death, couldn't it?
 
some of this just doesnt add up. i hope its just another means to scare for the kid and his family sake but if it really did happen then that's sad. and im sure there is more to that report than just "he died from ecstasy". i want to know the exact chemicals that were in it. what was it mixed with if it even contained mdma at all. who's to say it did. they didnt say it contained mdma, they said ecstasy. i mean we all know when we buy "ecstasy pills" we're not always getting mdma or pure mdma. there had to have been something dangerously mixed that doesnt compliment each other well. i hate the way the media is just so misleading. if you're going to provide the truth provide the whole truth. i hate when they offer only snippets put together.
 
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Crazeee said:

The post mortem examination revealed three different amphetamine compounds.

So he DID take something other then just MDMA or do they just consider any and all "designer" amphetamine varients to be Ecstasy?
 
Damn

It really is very sad, but it sounds kinda shady to me. No doubt the kid took something and he died, but there are several disparities between the two reports and it makes me think that they didn't report it acurately. I think they maybe just call it X because they know the name and they know that other people do too. It was probably something completely different but if you talk about someone dying from DMT or PMA or mixing SSRI's and MAOI's that means nothing to most people. They won't get outraged at something they'll just think the kid was stupid and feel a little sad about it. Exstacy will prompt a bigger emotional response purely because they recognize the name.
 
Most likely the pill had hardly any MDMA, the article is rather vague on what was in his system. "Toxicology tests showed traces of the designer amphetamines that make up ecstasy and traces of cannabis were also found." What is the definition of Designer amphetamines? Cant really say it was only Ecstasy? Go and get some X and analyze it and see what comes up. Speed, dxm, Caffeine etc.. If the pill was not pure who knows what was in the pills composition. But according to this article it was the make up of ecstasy. If those pills were packed full of Meth and he popped 4 pills and was new to speed I know that would prolly kill my sorry ars. Boy needed an EZ-Test. The whole article is very vague in my opinion.
I feel for his family and friends. To loose anyone at such a young age is always a tragedy.
 
Doesn't matter which way you look at it, MDMA is dangerous to a degree. Taking consecutive doses over almost an entire day, bombing it at that, it's really very unhealthy. Some people are obviously exceptionally sensitive and some are simply careful enough to avoid the tipping point. Others seem to have the constitution of an aging rhino, and they can do whatever they want to their bodies and never suffer from it.

In my experience (and I've casually researched this subject for 12 years) if you're not affected negatively in a physical way (ie collapsing, liver damage or whatever) heavy use will certainly have some long-term psychological implications.

For some rare individuals, even half doses can be fatal, but on the whole, so long as you heed ALL the harm reduction advice using 1 or 2 E's six or eight times a year, is probably relatively harmless in the medium term. Stick to this sorta limit and you vastly reduce the chances of negative physical or psychological.
 
Brian Oblivion said:
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I disagree. I think that Darkmoonlight brought up a valid point.

If the young boy had created a film about "harm reduction" he would have been "educated" about what not to do, and what to avoid. AND he would be alive today.

It's sad. Yet, another victim of the War on Drugs that didn't have to be. :|

ok first off you so very wrong..

i knew ben, i live in the same town/city as him, yes we didnt get on, but from what i know it was not his fault.

the learning in schools about drugs is so wrong, i know becuz thats what i am currently doing at school, i am in the same year as ben, i am now 16.

from what i know he did get spiked, crushed pills in drink or somthing and he drank excessive amounts from what i am told.

i met the guy 3 occasions - each time we were spose to fight.

have some sympathy for the kid he's dead and ppl are distraught.
 
Darkmoonlight said:
stupid kid tried it for his first time and it fucked him because he probably didn't drink enough water. Dumbass.
can we have a little respect 4 the dead please...thanks
 
"can we have a little respect 4 the dead please...thanks"

Why do people treat other people like dirt when they're alive, and then feel taboo to speak badly of them after death, even if it's some guy you've never met? I mean, many people wouldn't really give 2 shits about conversing or associating with this guy when he was around, even if he was on bluelight or nearby them..but suddenly you gained respect for him simply because he committed the act of dying while on substances he may or may not have been educated about...Give more respect to the living I say, they(we) certainly need it more than those who are gone..
 
Orpheus420 said:
"can we have a little respect 4 the dead please...thanks"

Why do people treat other people like dirt when they're alive, and then feel taboo to speak badly of them after death, even if it's some guy you've never met? I mean, many people wouldn't really give 2 shits about conversing or associating with this guy when he was around, even if he was on bluelight or nearby them..but suddenly you gained respect for him simply because he committed the act of dying while on substances he may or may not have been educated about...Give more respect to the living I say, they(we) certainly need it more than those who are gone..
what are u talking about?? i didn't even know the guy! basicaly there are unwritten rules in soceity....you NEVER down somebody if they are NOT around to defend themselves....or put up some kind of retort....for one it's not good sportsmanship and 2.... u really shoud have respect for the dead! many things don't make sense in our society, but what is right is right. i mean, the dude called him a dumbass....thats just wrong....! and i'm sure you ALL know what i mean
 
again i knew him, and didnt like him, but still the pains that everyone feels, i know many ppl who knew him well and are suffering...
 
Orpheus420 said:
Why do people treat other people like dirt when they're alive, and then feel taboo to speak badly of them after death, even if it's some guy you've never met? I mean, many people wouldn't really give 2 shits about conversing or associating with this guy when he was around, even if he was on bluelight or nearby them..but suddenly you gained respect for him simply because he committed the act of dying while on substances he may or may not have been educated about...Give more respect to the living I say, they(we) certainly need it more than those who are gone..

I agree that the living should also earn respect but what if this happened to, for example your little brother..? Would you also talk like this or wouldn't you give a damn..? Get some sense, as era said, you should have respect for the dead, imo more as for the living.
 
"what are u talking about?? i didn't even know the guy! "

<Sigh>, I know you didn't know the guy..The point I was making was that if he was around, you would extend little to no effort to respect him even then..

"basicaly there are unwritten rules in soceity"

LOL Christ man..When you're ready to stop thinking in one culture views, we'll speak on this again...perhaps when you're more fully aware of the differences of thousands of different meanings, ideas and views expressed in the hundreds of rich and diverse cultures populating the world and that certain taboos and beliefs in one culture mean absolute dick in another...Don't speak to me about unwritten rules and beliefs of the US, I and billions of others around the world could really care less about what America defines as "good" and "wrong"...Simply by posting here, you've taken a step in what the US, the UK and others would call the "wrong" direction..

"....you NEVER down somebody if they are NOT around to defend themselves"

LOL Yeah right, I'm so glad everyone respects this "rule" in all kinds of different situations...You and I know it's not fair or kewl sure, I just hope you don't continue under the delusion that all other people play fair or by the rules...

"u really shoud have respect for the dead!"

I didn't even say I didn't have respect for the dead, I only imply that the living could appreciate and use it in far more applicable ways..

"many things don't make sense in our society, but what is right is right."

Yep, YOUR version of "right" MUST apply to everyone else right?

"but what if this happened to, for example your little brother..? Would you also talk like this or wouldn't you give a damn..? "

Blowmonkey, I don't make judgements and then not apply them to myself(Not to mention that nowhere did I state I didn't give a damn about this person)...Sure, I would be devastated if I had a sibling die from bad beans...But I'd still be pissed as hell at his/her stupidity of not testing the pills first and would place the blame on him/her...
 
xXTOKERXx said:
again i knew him, and didnt like him, but still the pains that everyone feels, i know many ppl who knew him well and are suffering...

then this should be just cause for you all to be properly educated about what killed him then, shouldn't it?
 
That kid died because of the war on drugs and the mis-information that goes with it. And what do they do? Continue with the mis-information.

That kid died because of the war on drugs and the mis-information that goes with it: if there XTC would be legal there would be pure pills instead of the crazy mixes (amphetemins, pma, you name it) that are sold as XTC now. Plus you might even have public pill test services.

They continue the mis-information:

Pathologist Nathaniel Cary, who carried out a post mortem after Ben had died at Hemel Hempstead Hospital, said: "Ecstasy is like a great big game of Russian roulette. "It doesn't kill everybody, but it kills regularly."

Come on, if it really killed regularly it would not be the most popular party drugs there is. The facts are that less then 1 in every 100,000 users (or maybe even less) dies. The risks of dying in a traffic accident on the way to the party are much larger, actually.

The post mortem examination revealed three different amphetamine compounds and evidence of earlier cannabis use.

Conclusion: amphetamin compounds --> that boy did NOT die of XTC.

And what does cannabis have to do with it? I don't believe cannabis increases the risks of amphetamins or those of XTC. So this information is just as unnecessary as "we found traces of orange juice and a pizza". It's only meant to discredit cannabis once more.

Pathetic.
 
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