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Big Bear's Red Dove Trip Report
Trip Info:
Trip Rating (out of 10 *'s): * * * *
Trip Duration: 7h, 30m
Trip Overview: These pills didn't really do much for me besides keep me awake and light-headed. Some slight empathogenic effects, but nothing spectacular.
Things to Do: If you find yourself tripping on Red Doves, I would recommend: writing, listening to music, talking to people who you really care about, having sex, and most of all, cleaning (or any other boring, unenjoyable task; it will be incredibly interesting and fun).
The Last Word: It's fun to try as a novelty, but nothing special. If you're looking for a strong, speedy, empathogenic trip, you're better off just using MDMA.
General Info:
Dose: 2 tablets
Weight: 295 lbs (134 kg)
Sex: Male
Age: 18
Experience:
a) General: Seasoned drug user
b) Substance-specific: I may or may not have used this substance before (It's impossible to say since it seems like nobody knows what's in them. I've never taken this specific brand of pill before, though)
Other: Pills were taken on an empty stomach.
12:54 AM (T±0:00) I ate two Red Dove party pills on an empty stomach.
1:35 (T+0:41) About 40 minutes ago, I took 2 Red Dove "plant feeder" pills
<--(they kinda sorta looked like that, only not really)
I'm just starting to feel them coming on. I should also mention that I snorted 200mg of Vanilla Sky around 6 hours ago. The comedown was rough, which is why I took the Red Doves in the first place.
My stomach feels nauseous, and my body feels light and tingly, especially my head. I think I'm going to vomit, or maybe not. I can't tell yet. It's currently 1:40am (T+0:46).
Also, the reason I'm documenting this (and this is my first formal trip report, so if it sucks, sorry) is that I looked all over the internet today for information on Red Doves, and I couldn't find anything. I'm hoping that, as I describe the effects, someone with more RC experience than me will be able to identify what the substance(s) is/are.
It's 1:44 now. I didn't puke, and the nausea subsided for the moment. It's not gone completely, but I spat out my dip (grizzly wintergreen long cut) and am drinking water slowly, which I think helped make it go down. I still have that feeling like I might puke any minute; it's similar to the feeling I get when I eat a fistful of generic, rapid-release Mucinex DM. If you've ever eaten 20g of guaffasein (sp?), you know what I'm talking about. Hopefully.
It's 1:47, and I just ate a slice of Angus beef. I'm going to try to get some more food down; I think it might help the nausea.
1:50 (T+0:56) I'm starting to feel a little sped up, nothing too intense. Just a slightly unpleasant feeling that I'm overly-alert. And the nausea is still here. I am still sipping water, I haven't eaten anything since the Angus slice (I just don't think my stomach could handle anything more right now). I'm gonna take a break now, though. I'll start up again in a few minutes.
1:55 (T+1:01) Signing off for now.
(during this time I was trolling Facebook)
2:34 (T+1:40) The nausea subsided a little while ago. My mouth is terribly dry. As for the psychoactive effects, I feel little or no change in my mood; no euphoria, no empathogenic effects, no terror, no overwhelming sadness, none of anything like that. Just a physical sensation that I can best describe as feeling "light", as though my 295 lb. body somehow shed half its weight in the past 2 hours. I also have a faint sensation of motion. When I close my eyes, it becomes more pronounced; I feel like I'm on an accelerating train with no windows. Heart rate is elevated; I think I'll actually measure that and my blood pressure here in a bit, if I can find the little machine. I'm having an IM conversation with my friend "Rebeka" about the nature of shame; from what I can tell, my typing skills haven't been effected, and Rebeka says I'm making sense and speaking (or rather, typing) coherently. Psychologically, this has so far been a bit of a disappointment.
2:46 (T+1:52) My head hurts, I think. But it doesn't hurt in the way it does when I'm sober. It's more like, I can sense that there is pain, it just isn't painful. The feeling of alertness is starting to fade, and I feel somewhat slowed down.
2:47 NEVERMIND! I just got a wave of energy. I am going to put on some dubstep, to test the effects of this drug on the musical experience.
2:51 (T+1:57) I ended up listening to a cover of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", it's done by Prince, Eric Clapton, George Harrison... A few other rock 'n roll legends too. It sounds. incredible. The sensation is similar to the effect of marijuana on music, but not as deep. Instead of feeling like I'm underwater and the sound is waves, I feel like I'm a cloud. Weightless. The sound is the air around me, but it is separate from me (unlike the effect that I get when I listen to music on LSD, where the music is a part of me).
2:55 (T+2:01) I noticed how poorly formatted this trip report has become; I had better clean it up before I post it. I still feel nauseous, but only a little. I have <b>NOT</b> experienced any visual distortions, trails, etc. Also, I haven't been finding "The Weave" (the patterns in things that you don't usually see), so that rules out most of the hallucinogenic RC's (tryptamines, lysergamides, phenethylamines). I'm gonna worry about trying to ID the chemical later, though. For now, I'm just gonna play some dubstep and maybe write some poetry. I feel very focused; it's very similar to my experiences with large doses of methylphenidate. I feel like I could write and write and write and I'd never need to sleep or eat or do anything besides type furiously for the rest of eternity.
3:08 (T+2:14) I definitely am peaking. I still haven't experienced any euphoria or giddiness, which is atypical according to the other trip reports I've found on these Red Doves.
3:25 (T+2:31) The music is really nice; I'm playing Daft Punk. After skipping around on shuffle for a while, I found "Robot Rock" and it was perfect for how I feel. Just to tie up some loose ends, I never vomited and I never actually wrote the poetry. I've just been typing furiously to Rebeka. Still no effect on my motor skills or cognitive abilities. To test this, I'm going to try to do some math problems.
387906/21 will be the first one I do.
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3:54 (T+3:00) I have a feeling that it's not a good thing that it took me 29 minutes to attempt that problem? and i'm 99% sure its wrong. I'm gonna look now. Yep, I was off by like, 3000 or so. It should have been 18471.71428... Damn. I could have done that in five minutes and gotten it right, had I tried it sober. Obviously this mystery drug (combined with the sleep deprivation) negatively impacts my mathematical mental skills. Well, that was a waste of a half hour.
3:58 (T+3:04) The plateau is starting to go down a little. I am trembling pretty bad, Then again, I've been sitting here for over 3 hours. I am going to go and try to walk over to my balcony (there is a guard rail, and if I'm stumbling at all I won't go out on it, for safety's sake) and go outside to have a dip; I'm starting to get the nicotine craving.
4:09 (T+3:15) My head hurts. I didn't make it to the balcony; not because I couldn't, but because I got distracted.
4:15 (T+3:21) I got distracted again. Even though I feel alert and focused, it would seem I'm actually really, really, distractable. The plateau is definitely coasting down now. I'm still above baseline, but it's a dirty sort of "up" feeling. The best way I could describe the feeling is dirty. My body still feels really hot and light, but now it feels less like I'm a cloud, and more like I've suddenly lost maybe... 50 lbs? It's hard to measure drug-induced imaginary weight loss with any kind of precision. Note that I AM aware that I have not really lost any weight. I am still thinking rationally, or at least... (con't below)
4:20

(T+3:26) (con't from previous)* ...rationally enough that I am aware of my surroundings, and aware of what is real and what is just the mysterious drug known as "Red Dove". At no point in this trip (and I'm using that term loosely here) have I experienced any psychedelic effects, hallucinations (although the light from the computer screen is very very bright, and the white looks... whiter? I don't know how to explain it. All the colors look like... more. Like red isn't just red; it's a brilliant crimson), or any type of psychological immersion in the trip. Also, I am wondering about the dose. I think I will take all 3 of my remaining Red Doves next time I decide to do it, because I feel like there was something that I could've broken through to, but I didn't quite get there. Before people start telling me "it's not safe! D:", let me remind you that I am a 300-pound man, even if I feel closer to 200 right now. I have read other people's trip reports (even though I could only find a couple others), and they got stronger effects than I got. So I think 3 is reasonable. I will, of course, stay hydrated and-- Which reminds me. I should drink water. But the sensation is unpleasant; right now the thought of eating or drinking anything is outright unpleasant. But I guess I should at least sip some water. I'm signing off for now, but I'll be back soonish, unless I get distracted and don't finish this. D: just kidding, I'll remember. Until then, bye!
4:54 (T+4:00) I feel like I should mention, I have yet to find an empathogen that effects me properly. MDMA just makes my head feel woozy, similar to this "trip". I think that for others, there might be strong empathogenic effects with these pills, but my serotonin level is naturally VERY low, and all the DXM that I used to do can't have helped. I feel like I am off the plateau, and am now just kind of "buzzing" along. I have read reports of these tablets lasting up to 10 hours; but then, those reports also say that this is a powerful empathogen. So either a) they changed the ingredients pretty recently, or b) my stupid brain chemistry fucked up what could have otherwise been a really groovy trip. I'll follow up in an hour or two, but for the most part, I think the exciting part of this experience is over.**
6:15 (T+5:21) I got a phone call from Rebeka. By this time, I was feeling pretty buzzed. This was the only time that I got any empathogenic effects; I felt incredibly close to her. We talked until...
7:54 (T+7:00), at which time I was possessed by an overwhelming (and very out-of-character, for the record) urge to clean my bathroom. So clean I did! I don't know where the energy came from, but I was scrubbing and rising like a man possessed by the ghost of Mr. Clean. And I'll be damned if that shower didn't sparkle like newly fallen snow in the sunlight by the time I was done. The toilet was clean enough to drink soup out of. The sink looked like brand-new porcelain. It was incredible! I am incredibly unmotivated, but the buzz from those Red Doves had me feeling ready to run a marathon. The only thing I can relate it to is sleep deprivation-induced mania. I was talking to myself***and singing. It was pretty rad!
8:24 (T+7:30) By this point, I was back at baseline.
*sorry for the break, i just wanted to have 4:20 be a landmark on this report. After all, it's the most special time of day! =P
**after this point, everything was written in retrospect at 8:55 (T+8:01)
***for the record, I wasn't talking to myself in an insane way, it was more of a silly monologue kind of deal
Trip Info:
Trip Rating (out of 10 *'s): * * * *
Trip Duration: 7h, 30m
Trip Overview: These pills didn't really do much for me besides keep me awake and light-headed. Some slight empathogenic effects, but nothing spectacular.
Things to Do: If you find yourself tripping on Red Doves, I would recommend: writing, listening to music, talking to people who you really care about, having sex, and most of all, cleaning (or any other boring, unenjoyable task; it will be incredibly interesting and fun).
The Last Word: It's fun to try as a novelty, but nothing special. If you're looking for a strong, speedy, empathogenic trip, you're better off just using MDMA.
General Info:
Dose: 2 tablets
Weight: 295 lbs (134 kg)
Sex: Male
Age: 18
Experience:
a) General: Seasoned drug user
b) Substance-specific: I may or may not have used this substance before (It's impossible to say since it seems like nobody knows what's in them. I've never taken this specific brand of pill before, though)
Other: Pills were taken on an empty stomach.
12:54 AM (T±0:00) I ate two Red Dove party pills on an empty stomach.
1:35 (T+0:41) About 40 minutes ago, I took 2 Red Dove "plant feeder" pills
I'm just starting to feel them coming on. I should also mention that I snorted 200mg of Vanilla Sky around 6 hours ago. The comedown was rough, which is why I took the Red Doves in the first place.
My stomach feels nauseous, and my body feels light and tingly, especially my head. I think I'm going to vomit, or maybe not. I can't tell yet. It's currently 1:40am (T+0:46).
Also, the reason I'm documenting this (and this is my first formal trip report, so if it sucks, sorry) is that I looked all over the internet today for information on Red Doves, and I couldn't find anything. I'm hoping that, as I describe the effects, someone with more RC experience than me will be able to identify what the substance(s) is/are.
It's 1:44 now. I didn't puke, and the nausea subsided for the moment. It's not gone completely, but I spat out my dip (grizzly wintergreen long cut) and am drinking water slowly, which I think helped make it go down. I still have that feeling like I might puke any minute; it's similar to the feeling I get when I eat a fistful of generic, rapid-release Mucinex DM. If you've ever eaten 20g of guaffasein (sp?), you know what I'm talking about. Hopefully.
It's 1:47, and I just ate a slice of Angus beef. I'm going to try to get some more food down; I think it might help the nausea.
1:50 (T+0:56) I'm starting to feel a little sped up, nothing too intense. Just a slightly unpleasant feeling that I'm overly-alert. And the nausea is still here. I am still sipping water, I haven't eaten anything since the Angus slice (I just don't think my stomach could handle anything more right now). I'm gonna take a break now, though. I'll start up again in a few minutes.
1:55 (T+1:01) Signing off for now.
(during this time I was trolling Facebook)
2:34 (T+1:40) The nausea subsided a little while ago. My mouth is terribly dry. As for the psychoactive effects, I feel little or no change in my mood; no euphoria, no empathogenic effects, no terror, no overwhelming sadness, none of anything like that. Just a physical sensation that I can best describe as feeling "light", as though my 295 lb. body somehow shed half its weight in the past 2 hours. I also have a faint sensation of motion. When I close my eyes, it becomes more pronounced; I feel like I'm on an accelerating train with no windows. Heart rate is elevated; I think I'll actually measure that and my blood pressure here in a bit, if I can find the little machine. I'm having an IM conversation with my friend "Rebeka" about the nature of shame; from what I can tell, my typing skills haven't been effected, and Rebeka says I'm making sense and speaking (or rather, typing) coherently. Psychologically, this has so far been a bit of a disappointment.
2:46 (T+1:52) My head hurts, I think. But it doesn't hurt in the way it does when I'm sober. It's more like, I can sense that there is pain, it just isn't painful. The feeling of alertness is starting to fade, and I feel somewhat slowed down.
2:47 NEVERMIND! I just got a wave of energy. I am going to put on some dubstep, to test the effects of this drug on the musical experience.
2:51 (T+1:57) I ended up listening to a cover of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", it's done by Prince, Eric Clapton, George Harrison... A few other rock 'n roll legends too. It sounds. incredible. The sensation is similar to the effect of marijuana on music, but not as deep. Instead of feeling like I'm underwater and the sound is waves, I feel like I'm a cloud. Weightless. The sound is the air around me, but it is separate from me (unlike the effect that I get when I listen to music on LSD, where the music is a part of me).
2:55 (T+2:01) I noticed how poorly formatted this trip report has become; I had better clean it up before I post it. I still feel nauseous, but only a little. I have <b>NOT</b> experienced any visual distortions, trails, etc. Also, I haven't been finding "The Weave" (the patterns in things that you don't usually see), so that rules out most of the hallucinogenic RC's (tryptamines, lysergamides, phenethylamines). I'm gonna worry about trying to ID the chemical later, though. For now, I'm just gonna play some dubstep and maybe write some poetry. I feel very focused; it's very similar to my experiences with large doses of methylphenidate. I feel like I could write and write and write and I'd never need to sleep or eat or do anything besides type furiously for the rest of eternity.
3:08 (T+2:14) I definitely am peaking. I still haven't experienced any euphoria or giddiness, which is atypical according to the other trip reports I've found on these Red Doves.
3:25 (T+2:31) The music is really nice; I'm playing Daft Punk. After skipping around on shuffle for a while, I found "Robot Rock" and it was perfect for how I feel. Just to tie up some loose ends, I never vomited and I never actually wrote the poetry. I've just been typing furiously to Rebeka. Still no effect on my motor skills or cognitive abilities. To test this, I'm going to try to do some math problems.
387906/21 will be the first one I do.
140460.00
21|387906.00
| ||-906.00
| || 000.00
| 87
|-84
|>33
- 21
8
3:54 (T+3:00) I have a feeling that it's not a good thing that it took me 29 minutes to attempt that problem? and i'm 99% sure its wrong. I'm gonna look now. Yep, I was off by like, 3000 or so. It should have been 18471.71428... Damn. I could have done that in five minutes and gotten it right, had I tried it sober. Obviously this mystery drug (combined with the sleep deprivation) negatively impacts my mathematical mental skills. Well, that was a waste of a half hour.
3:58 (T+3:04) The plateau is starting to go down a little. I am trembling pretty bad, Then again, I've been sitting here for over 3 hours. I am going to go and try to walk over to my balcony (there is a guard rail, and if I'm stumbling at all I won't go out on it, for safety's sake) and go outside to have a dip; I'm starting to get the nicotine craving.
4:09 (T+3:15) My head hurts. I didn't make it to the balcony; not because I couldn't, but because I got distracted.
4:15 (T+3:21) I got distracted again. Even though I feel alert and focused, it would seem I'm actually really, really, distractable. The plateau is definitely coasting down now. I'm still above baseline, but it's a dirty sort of "up" feeling. The best way I could describe the feeling is dirty. My body still feels really hot and light, but now it feels less like I'm a cloud, and more like I've suddenly lost maybe... 50 lbs? It's hard to measure drug-induced imaginary weight loss with any kind of precision. Note that I AM aware that I have not really lost any weight. I am still thinking rationally, or at least... (con't below)
4:20


(T+3:26) (con't from previous)* ...rationally enough that I am aware of my surroundings, and aware of what is real and what is just the mysterious drug known as "Red Dove". At no point in this trip (and I'm using that term loosely here) have I experienced any psychedelic effects, hallucinations (although the light from the computer screen is very very bright, and the white looks... whiter? I don't know how to explain it. All the colors look like... more. Like red isn't just red; it's a brilliant crimson), or any type of psychological immersion in the trip. Also, I am wondering about the dose. I think I will take all 3 of my remaining Red Doves next time I decide to do it, because I feel like there was something that I could've broken through to, but I didn't quite get there. Before people start telling me "it's not safe! D:", let me remind you that I am a 300-pound man, even if I feel closer to 200 right now. I have read other people's trip reports (even though I could only find a couple others), and they got stronger effects than I got. So I think 3 is reasonable. I will, of course, stay hydrated and-- Which reminds me. I should drink water. But the sensation is unpleasant; right now the thought of eating or drinking anything is outright unpleasant. But I guess I should at least sip some water. I'm signing off for now, but I'll be back soonish, unless I get distracted and don't finish this. D: just kidding, I'll remember. Until then, bye! 4:54 (T+4:00) I feel like I should mention, I have yet to find an empathogen that effects me properly. MDMA just makes my head feel woozy, similar to this "trip". I think that for others, there might be strong empathogenic effects with these pills, but my serotonin level is naturally VERY low, and all the DXM that I used to do can't have helped. I feel like I am off the plateau, and am now just kind of "buzzing" along. I have read reports of these tablets lasting up to 10 hours; but then, those reports also say that this is a powerful empathogen. So either a) they changed the ingredients pretty recently, or b) my stupid brain chemistry fucked up what could have otherwise been a really groovy trip. I'll follow up in an hour or two, but for the most part, I think the exciting part of this experience is over.**
6:15 (T+5:21) I got a phone call from Rebeka. By this time, I was feeling pretty buzzed. This was the only time that I got any empathogenic effects; I felt incredibly close to her. We talked until...
7:54 (T+7:00), at which time I was possessed by an overwhelming (and very out-of-character, for the record) urge to clean my bathroom. So clean I did! I don't know where the energy came from, but I was scrubbing and rising like a man possessed by the ghost of Mr. Clean. And I'll be damned if that shower didn't sparkle like newly fallen snow in the sunlight by the time I was done. The toilet was clean enough to drink soup out of. The sink looked like brand-new porcelain. It was incredible! I am incredibly unmotivated, but the buzz from those Red Doves had me feeling ready to run a marathon. The only thing I can relate it to is sleep deprivation-induced mania. I was talking to myself***and singing. It was pretty rad!
8:24 (T+7:30) By this point, I was back at baseline.
*sorry for the break, i just wanted to have 4:20 be a landmark on this report. After all, it's the most special time of day! =P
**after this point, everything was written in retrospect at 8:55 (T+8:01)
***for the record, I wasn't talking to myself in an insane way, it was more of a silly monologue kind of deal
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