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Misc Dyethyl ether (diethyl-ether)

I remember when I was working in a chem lab, I was testing acetone, hexane, pentane, ethyl ether, ethylene glycol and ethyl acetate for the ability to extract 1-dodecanthiol protected gold nanoparticles to form monolayers...guess what solvent won the first place and got mass ordered LOL
 
Hmm, I have a can of pure diethyl ether (I think 500 ml) standing in the basement for ~6 years, forgot about it and never opened it. Maybe you could estimate how dangerous these explosions get ?

A big fucking incendiary device...

If you set it of you will be engulfed in flame and possibly have a piece of that can inside you...

Usually cans of ether have higher antioxidant content than lab grade stuff simply to improve self life considerably. I highly doubt you are in any real danger from 6 years in a sealed environment of the can.
 
Hmm, I have a can of pure diethyl ether (I think 500 ml) standing in the basement for ~6 years, forgot about it and never opened it. Maybe you could estimate how dangerous these explosions get ?

First off, don't even touch it before assessing the situation. If peroxides are present in large quantities, you could loose a finger or two by touching the cap. These peroxides form over time when just about any ether is exposed to air. Diethyl ether is no exception. Stabilizing agents (inhibitors or "preservatives" like BHT which I mentioned in first reply) will prevent this, or at least slow it down a lot.

No offence to BL, but I don't think this is the right crowd to answer such a question; you may want to look elsewhere. Seriously, it may be harmless or a touch-sensitive firebomb that requires the Bomb Squad to safely dispose of. There are a few key questions that you'll need to answer, whomever you ask:

  • Is there a white crust around the cap? If there is, you're looking straight at explosive peroxides.
  • Is an inhibitor present? Look on the can to see if anything besides diethyl ether is listed. The two common impurities in diethyl ether are water and ethanol; anything else will likely be an inhibitor.
  • How well is it sealed? Factory seal or did you close it last yourself?

I wish I could be of more help, but I'm not a lab safety officer. All I can really say is, this might be serious.
 
Old containers of ether can/will explode when disturbed.

i have another question: if I tried to buy ether at the pharmacy (have no idea if they sell it though), what could I say i need it for? i mean, what's it's common usage beside getting high and as a anesthetic?

Ether will not be sold at a pharmacy. Plus the fact that it's against the rules to ask what to say to obtain drugs.
 
First off, don't even touch it before assessing the situation. If peroxides are present in large quantities, you could loose a finger or two by touching the cap. These peroxides form over time when just about any ether is exposed to air. Diethyl ether is no exception. Stabilizing agents (inhibitors or "preservatives" like BHT which I mentioned in first reply) will prevent this, or at least slow it down a lot.

No offence to BL, but I don't think this is the right crowd to answer such a question; you may want to look elsewhere. Seriously, it may be harmless or a touch-sensitive firebomb that requires the Bomb Squad to safely dispose of. There are a few key questions that you'll need to answer, whomever you ask:

  • Is there a white crust around the cap? If there is, you're looking straight at explosive peroxides.
  • Is an inhibitor present? Look on the can to see if anything besides diethyl ether is listed. The two common impurities in diethyl ether are water and ethanol; anything else will likely be an inhibitor.
  • How well is it sealed? Factory seal or did you close it last yourself?

I wish I could be of more help, but I'm not a lab safety officer. All I can really say is, this might be serious.

Thanks for the clarification, if this is no joke I'm pretty fucked. I will drive there tomorrow morning and watch if it is still there. If I remember correctly it is stowed in a plastic bag so I won't be able to see, if peroxide residues are present without touching the bag. What would be the safest elimination method, that does not involve the bomb squad ? Could I take a bucket and fill it with sand to put the bag with the can into it and then drive it to a pharmacy or something ?

@Ksa

How am I supposed to do anything without moving the can ? :? I cannot look through it, since it is an aluminium can.
 
Thanks for the clarification, if this is no joke I'm pretty fucked. I will drive there tomorrow morning and watch if it is still there. If I remember correctly it is stowed in a plastic bag so I won't be able to see, if peroxide residues are present without touching the bag. What would be the safest elimination method, that does not involve the bomb squad ? Could I take a bucket and fill it with sand to put the bag with the can into it and then drive it to a pharmacy or something ?

@Ksa

How am I supposed to do anything without moving the bottle ? :?

You move your head around it instead of moving the bottle around your head...lol

You mean, is it in a box u never opened?
 
It is in a tin canister I can imagine, if it is starter fluid with nothing but ether, there is a lot of antioxidants in that can... A way higher percentage than lab grad ether.

Either way If you are hell bent on getting that ether, have professionals check it out if you have no direct line of vision with the actual product...


Just be a champ and <<<<DON’T TOUCH IT>>>>
 
Ether peroxides are contact/friction explosives, don't move old (10years+) bottles of ether without visually inspecting it first. Read the Aldrich tech bulletin too.

Ether in a can should be stabilised with BHT, but that's no guarantee of safety. if it's stored in the dark and sealed so air doesn't get to it, it should be fine. If it's fresh dist8illed ether that's been sitting in a clear glass bottle.... that's a different story.

Call your local fire department's non emergency number if you are concerned.
 
Hmm, I have a can of pure diethyl ether (I think 500 ml) standing in the basement for ~6 years, forgot about it and never opened it. Maybe you could estimate how dangerous these explosions get ?

Is it still there in liquid form? I would guess it's bone dry. That stuff can seep through the ass of a virgin flea.
 
Ether is in general not sold "over the counter" at pharmacies because it's no longer needed in modern medicine. It's long been supplanted by drugs like midazolam, fentanyl, propofol, and desflurane. It stinks, it's highly flammable, and it can cause strange side effects when used in anesthetic doses. (like nausea and vomiting when you awaken) Besides, people don't need to be doing home anesthesia...
 
yeah i see
i'll go to a pharmacy and see if they have it though, i think it's worth a try lol

Don't. Ether is a prototypical gabaergic which hasn't been in widespread use for many decades, if not a century. I'd bet its at least moderately restricted. You'd probably be labeled a drug seeker, accordingly.
 
they don't carry diethyl ether at pharmacies

in fact you don't buy diethyl ether at all I think without a license...

if anyone got any info on using this as an oral sedative I'd appreciate it, only tried inhaling it.
 
Don't. Ether is a prototypical gabaergic which hasn't been in widespread use for many decades, if not a century. I'd bet its at least moderately restricted. You'd probably be labeled a drug seeker, accordingly.

well i've been going to pharmacies to buy dxm and benzydamine many times lmao so i guess i've already been lol :P
but if you say so maybe I'll try to get it from some other source
 
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they don't carry diethyl ether at pharmacies

in fact you don't buy diethyl ether at all I think without a license...

if anyone got any info on using this as an oral sedative I'd appreciate it, only tried inhaling it.

Drinking it is very hard in pure form because you'll choke to shit. But you can easely mix it with water, I think at least 10% can disolve so you can make safe 10% aquous solutions. Just note that it may be way stronger then 10% alcohol so don't drink it as wine or beer.
 
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