Dumbest advice/things you've heard related to lifting?

[nuttynutskin]

 

[nuttynutskin]

Inb4 roiddzz!!! Fake plates!!! lol

 

[GrymReefer]

Ahh even though I don't do bench press at all anymore. It is wonderful to see someone who knows the massive benefit to maintaining a retracted scapula. I think my shoulders were shot from a lot dislocations when I was younger. No matter how much I retract it seems I still have very little subacromial space. It can be alleviated a little bit by switching to an incline barbell press, but I know that pain constantly during a pressing movement in the shoulder (not the good pain) is enough to tell me not to push it. Decline felt the best, but honestly I have terrible luck with finding gyms that have a decline rack.

Dumbells for life. I'm pretty sure I would be wasting my time trying any invasive surgery in hopes of correcting whatever has happened. The big one that did my right shoulder in and massively limited its overall mobility was a partial dislocation that lead to my placement in the socket being absurdly rotated inward until I got to the hospital and they did their magic of redislocation and positioned it properly.

 

[CFC]

A lot of unnecessary shit-stirring going on in this thread that I've just had to clean up. Let's not make things personal hey?

 

[Snarky91]

Here I go with another proposition: most dumb things people say/think about bodybuilding seem plausible or likely to them because there's some truth to it. Take for example the idea that protein shake is steroids. A lot of parents will believe it. It's not a stretch to think these ubiquitous powders are some form of enhancement, seen in the context of fit people using them. Another idea is that muscle turns to fat. If you have a science background, this would seem like total ignorance. However, people don't know the science. Also, discontinuation of weightlifting, with or without steroids, and reversion to poor diet can leave loose skin where the muscle has atrophied and the skin is loose now. I've also heard that working out legs is a bad idea because it will make your legs too big and your genitals will have no space to operate and receive blood flow/nutrients or whatever; and that as a result, your genitals will take on a reduced size.

Common sense leads to good theories sometimes. I would not be shocked if the package wasn't in synch due to the constraints in that area from leg work; at least it will look small probably - a side issue not related. Also been told that drinking protein shake while not working out will make you get fat; it's only for drinking if you workout. I explained the calorie concept and the ingestion of protein usually being healthy for muscle repair and most unlikely to be stored as fat. But people have in their mind these powders have loads of sugar and fat and will make you unhealthy. The fact of the matter is they might be thinking about weight gainer... bottles look similar, weight gainers have a well known reputation among people who've thought about gaining weight, and ultimately the weight gainer boxes recommend hundreds of grams of carbohydrates per massive serving. There's truth in misinformation. News media promote agendas on this principle. Some truth, some omissions and falsehoods, and a professional production messaging.

But word gets out that steroids shrink your testicles and people promote their personal understanding/lack thereof to propose theories. That's why I believe the dumbest things you'd hear would be misconceptions from those who don't participate much. Think about it: if we can recognize these things as manifestly erroneous thinking that turns the truth upside down, we must have some acquaintance with the crux of what people are trying to say.

Again, this shows our understanding reflected against misunderstanding. I've never heard something totally off the wall that would not serve as a basis for some kind of reasoning.

Finally, I've been desperate to gain muscle. I've read the magazines. I've bought the ideological filler ghostwritten on behalf of bodybuilders; the articles that propose x volume and supersetting like this, and so on re: how to build a big back following the strategy of ronnie coleman or build shoulders of dennis wolf using their methods. I have been a vessel of nonsense information, and at each time they were potentially true to me; I shifted eating practices, supplement intake, food choices, and absorbed the wishful thinking produced by articles on sophisticated workout regimens, believing that it would be the ticket to fast progression. You would be grateful if you learned early on as a lifter that the over-analysis of very minor things has almost negligible impact.

But there was a lot of good in those articles as well. The food ideas were the first I learned about quality foods vs hunger abating foods. I learned about exercises from exrx.net. I highly recommend it as a resource for selecting exercises and learning about ones you don't know.

 

[Genetic Freak]

A 9-year-old girl squatting 187lbs...

Later as a 10-year-old (girl) she is now the world-record holder for the raw squat event. Naomi Kutin set a world record for the 97-pound division in the raw squat event by lifting an astounding 215 pounds at the RAW Unity weightlifting championships in Texas...

Now as a 13yr old: Squat 248lbs, Bench 110lbs, DL 248lbs

[video]https://youtu.be/t8nOeyw2NF0[/video]

https://www.facebook.com/SupergirlNaomi

 

[CFC]

^^ well that's certainly raised the standard against which I'm gonna have to have my daughters compete (when I have some LOL). I'll have to start them at 2 yrs to have a chance I think....

 

[nuttynutskin]

Heh, I've seen that before... Not sure how I feel about that tbph. 9 imo is too young to be doing heavy weight training (unless you're Chinese). I can't help but think she's being pressured into it by her parents. If she's doing it on her own accord then that's cool I guess, but I don't know if there's any added risk of lifting heavy weights like that when you're not developed yet.

 

[NeighborMike]

Its hard for me to read this thread without my head exploding, but there are many many people who lift a lot of weight naturally..its crazy to think otherwise just cause most people who lift excessive amounts of weight might be on gear that doesnt mean that genetic freaks dont actually exist.

Theres people all throughout the prison system who can lift stuff like that

 

[CFC]

Heh, I've seen that before... Not sure how I feel about that tbph. 9 imo is too young to be doing heavy weight training (unless you're Chinese). I can't help but think she's being pressured into it by her parents. If she's doing it on her own accord then that's cool I guess, but I don't know if there's any added risk of lifting heavy weights like that when you're not developed yet.

I know the idea that children's bones might be stunted or whatever was always brought up back in the day. But recent research has tended to show only significant benefits to long-term health and wellbeing from lifting.

One of the major differences we've come to understand about modern humans is that because we're not engaged in heavy lifting from a very young age like we were only 400-500 years ago, our bones are significantly weaker and less dense than they used to be, and consequently it's believed we're also significantly weaker and more fragile/frail (it's muscle-tendon force that thickens bones through bending/compressing them).

In other words, our bodies evolved over hundreds of thousands of years (from climbing, chasing prey, lifting wood and stones for fires and huts etc etc) to adapt to massive stresses, right from infancy, in fact require those stresses to reach their potential. Yet now we have none of those stresses anymore. And so we have osteoporosis in old age, and sarcopenia, and hip failure, and generally a lot of frail old people who, had they been under more physical stress when younger, may have permanently upgraded their bodies and been more robust today.

Or maybe not. But I definitely wouldn't have any qualms encouraging my young kids to be as physical as possible from the youngest age with an eye on their long-term health.

 

[nuttynutskin]

But I definitely wouldn't have any qualms encouraging my young kids to be as physical as possible from the youngest age with an eye on their long-term health.

That's the thing... I just watched one of her squat videos on her Facebook and she is pretty much doing a good morning with her knees caving in. I would be ok with someone her age lifting weights as long as emphasis was on perfect form and not weight, but it's obvious that she's sacrificing form for bigger numbers and her parents likely don't care. Not trying to be a hater but it's negligent to have your 13 year old daughter squatting heavy weights with poor form. Hopefully someone corrects her form before an injury because otherwise she's heading for snap city.

 

[nuttynutskin]

Plank/bench press hybrid...

 

[RedLeader]

Also someone told me I squat too low one time. I didn't know that too low and squat could be used in the same sentence without spontaneously combusting into thin air.

I get the squat too low all the time. Usually it's from old guys when I lift early in the morning. And they get really defensive and upset when I tell them to kindly let me lift how I want to.

The whole issue of squat depth pisses me off to no end. I can shake off most gym stupidity, but when guys try and say that an A2G squat is in any way comparable to their 1/4 (or even 1/8th) squat, it gets to me. I had a guy recently ask to work in with me. I agreed. He loads two additional 45s on and does 1/4 squats with awful form. Has the nerve to tell me to "keep at it and I'll get there.''

Just putting this here too:

 

[CFC]

He loads two additional 45s on and does 1/4 squats with awful form. Has the nerve to tell me to "keep at it and I'll get there.''

You just have to LOL at these critters! It's almost always a feeble attempt to try and alpha all over you. Thankfully I'm at a point now where I can just cringe inside at how embarrassing they are and plaster on a fake smile like I give a shit. I'd probably have lost it when I was younger lol.

 

[nuttynutskin]

I get the squat too low all the time. Usually it's from old guys when I lift early in the morning. And they get really defensive and upset when I tell them to kindly let me lift how I want to.

The whole issue of squat depth pisses me off to no end. I can shake off most gym stupidity, but when guys try and say that an A2G squat is in any way comparable to their 1/4 (or even 1/8th) squat, it gets to me. I had a guy recently ask to work in with me. I agreed. He loads two additional 45s on and does 1/4 squats with awful form. Has the nerve to tell me to "keep at it and I'll get there.''

This is why I don't let anyone work in and don't talk to people in the gym unless it's just between set bullshitting with the regulars. I can't even remember the last time anyone gave me unsolicited advice. I guess it pays to look angry and have your earbuds in.

Just putting this here too:

Heh, that was kind of funny even tho it was from Men's Fatness. They should've let them warm up first tho, I thought some of those were going to be snap city.

 

[Yeetbeat]

I must say it's a good change when you cop the complete opposite - like when I reset weight on squats (or start them again after a break lol). I feel kinda silly starting back at 100kg and just focussing on form, but I've actually complimented on said form. While though I don't consider the weight of any note at all, it's cool to see there are people who see past that and notice a DEEP squat with good form

 

[GrymReefer]

Those douche bags that say, “Oh I used to squat, but all that depth took out my knees.” Fucking retards. 1/4^th squats put way too much emphasis on the quadriceps and not properly stretching and having proper flexibility within the posterior chain (gluteals, hamstrings, adducters) will usually prevent the “bruhs” of the world from maintaining the proper anterior pelvic tilt to prevent the flattening. This is also helps with weight distribution as well.

I don't want to get too complicated with this post, but ankle flexibility also allows a higher range of movement which in turn allows a greater dorsi-flexion. Greater flexion results in a higher activitation within the quadriceps through a larger range of motion.

Same thing with dem gluteals. I'm not kidding when I say my hamstrings will touch my calves naturally with a squat. When some twat wants to say something to me I'll start blabbering about the science of it and they tend to walk away. I stretch extensively on my day with squats. Unless you're CFC and just born a fucking badass from the womb and stretching doesn't exist in your vocabulary, you are going to have to stretch to reach the proper flexibility for squatting.

Back to my HPTA research!

P.S These bench press videos kill my workout boner. I quietly weep in my living room with my gnarlified shoulders staring into the sunset whispering to myself, "One day...."

 

[CFC]

P.S These bench press videos kill my workout boner. I quietly weep in my living room with my gnarlified shoulders staring into the sunset whispering to myself, "One day...."

Your workout boner would come back a lot quicker if I could actually convince you to get back to the gym!!

 

[nuttynutskin]

Is he slacking? He needs to change his name to GymReefer imo. Hell, some people have claimed smoking pot before their workout gave them a greater mind to muscle connection.

 

[GrymReefer]

Is he slacking? He needs to change his name to GymReefer imo. Hell, some people have claimed smoking pot before their workout gave them a greater mind to muscle connection.

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Lol.

I haven't smoked weed in yeeeeaarrrsss. When I did it high school it definitely didn't help at all in our introductory to weightlifting class. I just went over to the cushioned floor for stretching and I'd just lay down behind some jump boxes. Either that or just never show up for the class and find some place in the school to be a nuisance.