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Drugs of The Future

While I believe analog laws will become more extensive, I also feel that there will always be a way around things. It's just how it is. :)
 
dokomo said:
I'm afraid that as time passes most all recreational drugs will become impossible to come by. Between the DEA gaining more and more regulatory and intimidation power and new medications being developed, I think actual "enjoyable" substances will be a thing of the past. Opiates are on their way to extinction already thanks to some new non-narcotic compounds that kill pain without addiction or tolerance.
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what's the big deal? I could live without pharm opiates; there will ALWAYS be the Opium Poppy.

There's enough "enjoyable" plant-based drugs in the world that I could be satisfied for the rest of my life if i had a big field to grow whatever i wanted in (and i had to stay on the farm forever) <3
 
BeeBizz said:
there will ALWAYS be the Opium Poppy.
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I'm not so confident. I wouldn't put it past some government (cough USA) to develop a bug or bacteria that would wipe out the entire poppy population. If some country wanted to they could develop something for cannabis, coca, khat, anything fun really. I'm hoping this doesn't happen but 100 years ago people wouldn't believe our current war on drugs is possible.
 
I think it would be next to impossible to completely eliminate any street drug. In the US, there definitely are high-profile government figures that truly want to take drugs off of the street. BUT, there are also a good bit of high-profile government figures that make tons of money by partnering up with major drug distributors by laundering money, looking the other way, and tipping them off when LEO gets on to them. And as we all know, the rate of drug production far exceeds the rate of drug seizure.

But I think a major drug in the future will be Cannabis, because it seems that we are just now about to slowly enter a more Cannabis-tolerant period (with Cali and all). And no doubt, pharmaceuticals will rise too, as our more recent, more educated generations will realize that the security of consistent pharm-purity and dose-indicators make them superior to unknown factors about street drugs.

Let's also not forget that "Synthetic Life" has recently been created (Discovery channel), which allows computers to create designer genes with very specific functions---this will allow the development of many new drugs using these programmed cells.

I think DMT will eventually have its time of popularity. When science evolves enough to determine its function as an endogenous neurotransmitter, I believe this function will have something to do with higher-perception of meaningful information, which will entice more people into exploring it. If only the "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" documentary can get finished and released, it may provide the little 'kick' DMT needs to lift off. One can only wish.
 
Drugs will always exist.
If they where to whip out all things that produce a "high" we would be missing a few valuable things.
 
You know what would be awesome? Longer lasting crack. Someone should hurry up and synthesize that. One of the reasons swim never does it these days is because it doesn't even last long enough for him to enjoy it.
 
I'd say prescription drugs are just going to keep getting more & more popular (in a recreational/"street" way of course) 'til the government makes some laws cracking down on it.

Mostly, though, I'd say those synthetic hallucinogens like "jwh" & "2c-b" & whatnot will probably end up being the next big drug thing. I mean, I'm pretty sure people have already exhausted all the options of what they can get high off of that grows on trees or out of the ground. &, what with the rate at which new drugs of that sort are coming out & the rate that science is progressing as a whole, it seems kind of inevitable that such drugs will become the new "fad".
 
dokomo said:
Oh I don't think morphine will be gone tomorrow, but I can't imagine it taking longer than 15-20 years or so. There is simply too much money to be made by too many people for it not to happen. Not to mention, the new drugs have a very legitimate benefit--pain relief without addiction. As with all things, its not going to happen overnight but I think that its inevitable.
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Wouldn't the money argument work the other way? Imo there is so much money to be made by the people manufacturing and selling illicit drugs that they will always find a way to keep the supply going, regardless of what the government and pharmaceutical industries do. A rise in non-narcotic painkillers would reduce the supply of pharmaceutical opioids on the black market, which would logically increase the demand for non-pharm opiates (since users aren't looking for alternate painkillers, they want what only an opioid can give them). Some people lose, others win, drugs stay forever. People will always want to get fucked up :D
 
Divine Moments said:
Wouldn't the money argument work the other way? Imo there is so much money to be made by the people manufacturing and selling illicit drugs that they will always find a way to keep the supply going, regardless of what the government and pharmaceutical industries do. A rise in non-narcotic painkillers would reduce the supply of pharmaceutical opioids on the black market, which would logically increase the demand for non-pharm opiates (since users aren't looking for alternate painkillers, they want what only an opioid can give them). Some people lose, others win, drugs stay forever. People will always want to get fucked up :D
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I agree with this general premise. My theory is that most of the opiate-manufacturing companies secretly want their pills to be used recreationally and to be sold on the black market. This is what creates a very high demand for such drugs, and this high demand allows them to make ridiculous amounts of money off them. And as we all know, money comes well before empathy and consideration for others. Think about it, if opiate companies really wanted people to stop abusing their pills--with technology today--they would make the most popular opiate (oxycodone) in an un-abusable form. Even some formula that makes the pills severely irritate the nose would deter it to an extent, but all existing forms of it are very abusable. Even Opana's expensive Time-RX mechanism doesn't stop snorting it from being effective. I think it is only in the public eye that they compromise and seem to support deterrence, just to avoid looking bad.

Another issue to think about is that a very large number of people are addicted to pharmaceutical opiates. While cracking down on the manufacturers or the prescribers may severely limit the supply of pharm opiates, this will come with a costly side effect: an explosion of heroin supply, as its demand will rise since the pharm addicts will seek sustenance how ever they can get it. And IMHO, it is much better to have people getting there fixes in a regulated, secure, clinical office type of setting, than on the streets--where they will be supporting and subject to the violent and ruthless sociopaths of the heroin trade. And a ton of opiate addicts are very young, so this problem will apply way down the road.
 
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