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RCs Drugs and Mental Illness

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fiarworks

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I posted this thread for the sole purpose of a neurology study I have named "Drugs and Mental Illness". That and to try and help educate, reduce risks/harm and increase the fun factor as much as possible in a specific group of the American populous. 22% of America suffers from some form of Mental Illness. Mine is paranoid schizophrenia. I have had it all my life and it has made my drug experiences better and worse, but mostly way different than imaginable compared to someone with normal brain chemistry. Which brings me to my point there is very little research on individuals with mental illness and a how various research chemicals effect them specifically. Doses on such places as erowid are inaccurate for the most part and side affects are largely unknown in those people.

SO! Before we begin, please note it is the total belief of the medical community myself included (100% of the professional populous), that drugs are harmful. Doctors say individuals suffering from mental illness are the last ones who should ever use drugs recreationally. I agree completely. This being said here is my thing. Who is to say all drugs aren't just hyped in a negative way ? Does it all depend on the person or can we truly classify a drug as having said effect on everyone ? It's why we need this study! There are inumerable factors that must be considered in recreational drug use for "normal" individuals. What about the rest of us ? Lets find out !

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No formal format. Three things to remember are crucial to my study: your mental illness is most important, drug is also very important, dosage being the most important in. Others that will help considerably are mood. Current and previous no farther than say a month. The setting, your diet and anything else you might think relative and helpful to a neurological/pschological/chemistry study. All will be appreciated. Don't be shy! Please use as much detail as possible. I will be gathering data from the posts for my own use, but lets not forget that bottom line, this is to help a person with mental illness who is considering trying a drug, a new drug, and or stronger drug with more SAFETY, more fun and in general to learn as much as possible about themselves and the world through channelers i believe our creator left behind to enlighten us.

I will start inside...

Thank you,
Fiarworks:)
 
This may be better suited from Drug Studies...or maybe even The Dark Side?

I would IM one of the Other Drugs moderators and see where they thing this should go, I doubt it will get the attention it deserves over here...
 
Before we begin, please note it is the total belief of the medical community myself included (100% of the professional populous), that drugs are harmful.
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^I think that the medical community just unanimously agreed that they are in a completely pointless profession then 8)

I don't want to nitpick but you said the sole purpose of this thread was a drug study and then go on to list a huge number of other purposes. You say you agree completely that they are harmful and then say but who's to say they aren't just negatively hyped and actually not harmful. Finally most research chemicals haven't gone through any level of human testing yet and people suffering from mental illness are hardly the best sample to start with.

Does it all depend on the person or can we truly classify a drug as having said effect on everyone ?
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It all depends on the person.


As you've clearly put a fair amount of thought and effort into this I'll speak with the other mods and see if we can't think of somewhere for it to go. Maybe as a discussion thread on mental illness and drugs? Just remember that the mechanism behind most mental illness is still poorly understood so trying any study on how all drugs and research chemicals will effect people who suffer from all sorts of mental illnesses is going to be all over the map.
 
A case in point is cocaine. It should cause Parkinson's. Studies show it doesn't. Since it is so massively related to dopamine, could it be that cocaine is actually protective?
 
I disagree completely. I know plenty of people with mental disorders who also use drugs.

If you have a severe personality disorder, yeah maybe using drugs isn't for you?

Anyone can go head first off the diving board into the deep end with a drug if they want to, it's not so much that people with mental illnesses are predisposed to being THE WORST drug addicts, etc.

If you were to continue to over-analyze everyone far enough you could probably find a "disorder" with most people, especially if you used a very wide parameter for defining dysfunction within people's lives.

Then it becomes a moot point, kind of like, we are already all using drugs and that's why we're at Bluelight (or, a loved one is on drugs, etc. - many reasons really but the predominant population of Bluelighters are drug users) - so I'm not really sure what you hope to gain by posting this thread.

I see you posted this thread in Drug Studies, so I'm going to close it.

Try to keep your thread in one sub-forum, it'll be more successful that way.
 
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