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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

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Germany currently, but I'm a Swiss citizen. I'd love to travel to the UK somewhen actually ;)

I'm actually thinking about realizing some sort of research about this topic. Brain scans, medication trials. There needs something to be done, it's a matter of life or death for me (and I think for you too). I just need the support of other people. I can't do this alone.
 
I totally agree that this is super-important (although for myself at least I don't consider it a matter of life and death), but I lack the knowledge about all these things to help you if I'm honest. Some of the BLers here and people on longecity.org are extremely knowledgeable psychopharmacologists, though.
 
Okay, this could have been exaggerated. But the differences are so heavy, so real and I need to do something. I'm unable to cope with day to day life w/o the right medication. You see what I'm able to come up cognitively when the brain chemistry is in equilibrium :)

I am currently facing a legal lawsuit because of possession of some RCs including MXE, which could bring me into jail. I have to push something through with the aid of the right professionals to avoid the hell on earth for me. And there is the possibility (that I hope to be wrong of course) that this particular sub-type of depression might progress with age and become worse, eventually leading to serious neurological disorders.

Yeah, this is why I posted here (and on longecity too, to be honest.. but here the replies are more serious.)
 
Would you still go to jail if you claimed (I presume accurately) that you used the RCs not for recreational purposes?
 
I don't know yet.. but I need to come up with as much evidence as possible and need the support of professionals to confirm my claim.. Then I maybe have the chance to come out (with the possibility to finally end my lifetime suffering too..)
 
Thanks .. it's just exciting to see the responses here and I'm looking forward to the opinions of other more informed blue lighters than me to the topic.

And of course I'll keep on updating here, so maybe you or others can possibly find solutions for their sufferings too..
 
TheHedonist99 said:
But therapy requires a conscious effort, hence thinking about something. I want to chemically alter myself to not think about something, there is no therapy that can help one to stop thinking so often.
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I'm going out on a limb here but it sounds like you have a touch of OCD.
 
Yeah - but it depends on your point of view. Was there the egg before the chicken? Does the thinking about thinking result in depression?
I guess there are huge overlays, as always in neuroscience ... one can lead to the other, and sometimes one therapy method can be exchanged for the other, but other times not and then it's important to identify the underlying cause, if it's neurological or psychical. Sometimes both may apply - this is why antidepressant therapy is so much more effective when combined with psychotherapy, reflection & changes in lifestyle.

But I dislike it to call this placebo. It's a different beast somewhat.

I believe that there is the possibility of neurological and/or metabolic disorders leading to such invasive unstoppable trains of thought - over excitation. This may and will not apply to everyone of course, but I am convinced that there are some individuals where it's more of a neurological thing. (The other question being, can a purely mentally thing become self-sustaining & manifest itself as a neurochemical disorder... maybe? And then we are there again where it comes to genetics, environmental factors etc. and why people 1 does get the illness whilst people 2 behaves differently under the exactly same situation.)

Psychopharmacological treatments (unless it comes to serious neurological disorders like Parkinson's etc) are always some sort of a crutch.
 
OP how old are you? you remind me of myself when i found out about bluelight hah

tbh, i don't think the answers for complex psychological problems are in the realm of pharmacology, and you're greatly underestimating the power of therapy / self-improvement, which are the way to go IMO.

you said you want to change your brain, but changing behaviors and thoughts also do that. i'd go as far as saying that changing a core belief (about the self and the world) and consequently changing feelings, thoughts and behaviors actually changes your brain a lot more than depleting your dopamine or wtv.

if you try to dull yourself - there are lots of drugs that can do that very efficiently and nonspecifically - you'll regret it later... not only because you always come back to your old sober overthinking self, but because dependence/addiction sucks major dick...

you said you think too much... do you happen to spend most of the time without any particularly engaging task? why is that so, and can you change it?
 
you said you want to change your brain, but changing behaviors and thoughts also do that. i'd go as far as saying that changing a core belief (about the self and the world) and consequently changing feelings, thoughts and behaviors actually changes your brain a lot more than depleting your dopamine or wtv.
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this. I have OCD, major depressive disorder, and panic disorder. Medication can only take you so far in treating these ailments. I realized that if I wanted to lead any sort of decent life with even a minimum of functionality I needed to work on the way my brain works. How I perceive things, and what my core belief structure is. Negative core beliefs lead to negative actions, and so on and so forth.

Neurotic hit it right on the head. In order to help themselves one must actually work at it.
 
Might be true. But there's always the opposite side of the sword.

tbh, i don't think the answers for complex psychological problems are in the realm of pharmacology, and you're greatly underestimating the power of therapy / self-improvement, which are the way to go IMO.
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For some yes, for some no. Mind and neurochemistry are so deeply interconnected.

Relieving the over excitation allows one to truly heal. So maybe it could be a need of temporary pharmaceutical interventions to change yourself.
Dulling thoughts or cognition doesn't lead anywhere. But for some, over excitation is a truth.
 
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