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drug induced theories

junksick said:
My own theory is that these drugs open up the reptilian part of the brain, so we are seeing everything through a primitive mentality. It's like being a child... so new age freaks attach "spiritual significance" to something that is purely psychlogical and physiological and make up all these psuedo-theories that don't make a lick of sense unless you too are on these same drugs.

Just my theory though.
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yes , its somewhat like being a child or reptile. your mistake is is belieiving that experiencing life through the eyes of a child or reptile lacks spiritual significance. as timothy leary said "the psychedelic experience is the opposite of the birth process", its going backwards insteads of forwards. going back to these primitive states of concioussness dissolves the personal and culteral illusions that many people get lost in. it puts you in the NOW instead of your little made up world of mental concepts that many have come to accept as reality. for many people this has tremendous spiritual significance. it's not necessary to take drugs to make sense of all the theories , nor is it "new age", most meditation technigues and spiritual practises are trying to acheive the same thing and have been around for thousands of years. psychedelics have also been used for thousands of years.

in my own life, their use has brought back hundreds of memories for my early childhood, vivid memories of perceptions thoughts and emotions that had been long forgotten. increased apreciation of everyday perceptions and a much greater amount of bliss. before taking them my mind was never on the moment but always worrying, concerned about some future event. all pointless mind games that i would go through all day long. after taking them i understood that if i wanted peace i had to find it in the present and not by constantly thinking about the future.
 
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yeah once I thought that we are one of an infinite amount of realities on a branch or different alternative realities that coexist in one reality, which is ours.

EDIT: All of our branches of our realities touch and overlap one another like a grape vine but everyones branch of reality touches everyone else and it balls up in a sphere of energy which is our collective consciousness. I think.... lol

~Pix I'm stoned :)
 
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DJAcetone said:
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Maybe. But in all honesty, I ate 4.5 grams of these, and I didn't grow them any differently than other batches, but these were just bunk. NO mindfuck at all. I didn't even feel I was tripping, except for the Mayan patterns everywhere
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Or maybe they weren't all that strong... I remember eating five grams of cubensis, after extensive preparation, expecting the McKennaesque trip of my life. What did I get? A little anxiety, and a few faint visuals. Mushroom strength (ESPECIALLY cubensis) is very variable, and two mushrooms from the same flush may have very different amounts of psilocin and psilocybin.

Measuring shroom trips by 'gram' seems like a crazy way of doing things, given that some grams may contain five-ten times as much drug as other grams. I know it's probably the best we can do in the absence of analytic equipment, but still...

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Cheers,

Neil
 
everything we see is just a manifestation of our own minds, because if everyone in the world was tripping at once then how would we know that the world we saw wasn't objectively trippy? we're all seeing it the same, but theres still another side to it that we're just blind to. reality could be the same

Good thing to have a pen and paper ready when you decide to eat some mushrooms :)
 
Once when I was stoned, I was thinking about the universe, whether or not there is a god, etc. Then it occurred to me that the laws of the universe could "determine themselves". Of course now my logic seems rather laughable.
 
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i get tons of deep theories abuot consciousness, the workings of the mind/brain, the universe, and anything, when i'm stoned. i never write them down though......... has my subconscious kept some of the things ive learned stoned intact, using the information ive gained when i think about those things again, or is it all forgotten?
 
I thought Randycaver was DEA out to bust me one night... on a heavy dosage mushroom trip, lost in what seemed like endless dark wierd looking bushes.

I thought I was soo completely fucked for a while.
 
last night i was so high i thought i died and was in some sort of insane afterlife. where the world just reversed itself from the point of death so you could replay everything and see all the things you've done and the results of your actions. it was like everything was on a linear path and kept going on to the point you died and then stopped but realized it had to keep going so it just reversed itself. i dunno it was really fucked up lol. then i started thinking about pi and how it was just like the ultimate random of the universe and why you couldnt devide stuff buy 0. lol i dunno all this weird stuff that sounds completly insane to me now. also a lot of stuff about entropy, thermodynamics, absolute zero and all kinds of crazy theories and stuff about the universe.
 
^^I think it is remembered on a subconsious level. I've often had little "flash-backs" of drug thoughts when sober, they are taken differently but essentially mean the same thing.

One of my biggest drug theories is that when we are born, and in early childhood, we all have had that curiosity and zest for all things. The blood flowing through our veins. As we grow older that sensation grows dimmer, we can't feel the same "life energy"/sensation as we used to be able to. Like running your finger along the same spot on your arm for 15 years, eventually it becomes numb. Some drugs enable you to feel that energy again; feeling the blood run through your veins again.

E_P

A reversion to the childhood self.
 
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One word: KETAMINE taken IM -- @ 200mgs.. Went to the K hole, after that I was no longer afraid of death (and still am not) and it was BY FAR the most profound awakening I have ever experienced. More, WAY more than acid or shrooms, or MJ. All those do produce creative thought and perception, but when you do ketamine correctly it is a REALITY, forget thoughts you are in an interactive dream, COMMUNICATING w/ something..... Very intense.
 
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