• LAVA Moderator: Shinji Ikari

Dropping out (the system?)

There are plenty of people who have successfully done what you seek. It'll be hard to not adjust to the rigors of society, wherever you decide to plop and rest. You'll need a job at some point that or I assume you'll be dabbling in activities that will wind you in front of 'justice'. I say go for it keeping a loose footing while remaining headstrong. Go find a climate that suits your clothes :D
 
Well, it's easy to get a job and save up money again when you need to. That's why I say, don't attempt to make it all or nothing. Drop out and disappear forever vs. working a mon-fri job and living in a suburb... there is a middle ground.

Work when you have to, forget about needing very many possessions, and take off whenever you have enough money saved up. It's pretty simple if one doesn't complicate it. Thinking about it is much harder than doing it, as you can see with how long I thought, and fretted, and planned, in my thread of a similar subject.

Going overseas does take a bit more planning but when it came to my original plan of just "taking off" in my car, once I did it I was like, wow that was easy. Next thing I know I'm in Arizona.. then Oklahoma.. and so on. Everything was new and exciting. I had a new life. It was easy. Just do it!

And please come back and let us know what's going on with your plan. You never sent me that long PM like I was hoping you would.
 
doesn't seem that safe simply because you'll really have no explanation for yourself if you WERE to be hassled by law enforcement

they'll see that you are basically a foreigner in a shitty car full of drugs you'll have no work visa no address ...have you thought about a driver's license?
 
I am 24 years old and still live with my parents. I lost too many time in universities though it never interested me, and had some problems with the justice so i had to pay mad fines for years.

Anyway, i dont think trying studies anymore because i feel the urge to leave, to go to the adventure, and if i dont do it at that time of my life, i will be never able to do it.

So the plan is to buy a van with all basic needs (toilets, solar panels, shower, small kitchen, good isolation), a shitload of lsd (liquid or blotter) and start touring europe festivals, teknivals, rave partys etc etc, doing something obvious to make some cash And time to time some seasonial jobs (grape-apple-picking, some extra help during ski seasons in the alps etc etc)

Once i have enough cash, or once i'm bored and meet some nice traveller tribe, head up to asia, fill the van with some valuable import goods to bring there and settle down opening a small business if i will have enough money to do so.

Does this plan seems realisable? Or is it just some fucked up idea i had during my last mushroom trip?

Just to tell you, the selling wine in Russia idea will not work. As a western European you've probably never had to deal with this before, but you will need a visa to enter Russia and quite a few places in Asia as well. No one will give you a visa if you do not have documented source of income and place of residence.

I think you are also underestimating how difficult it will be to raise cash when you need it. You might be in a situation where you need cash urgently but have no method to quickly raise the required amount.

A few months ago me and my dad had brunch with an Indian dude who was travelling all around the world on his bicycle. He had already been travelling for something like 3-4 years and he had come to Kiev from India through Central Asia. Unlike you however, he had a pretty good game plan. He had previously travelled on his bike through all the Indian states and got an award from the government or something like that - so he had some experience with this kind of lifestyle.

The Indian consulate would help him with paperwork in every new country he visited. He would find places to stay through an international community/forum of cycling fans. The Indian consulates would notify local Indian businessmen that he would be coming to the country and ask them to donate. My dad ended up giving him $200 after we had brunch with him.

However, he still ended up in a lot of shitty situations such as getting all his possessions stolen from him in Kyrgyzstan and being take hostage by the Taliban when cycling through Afghanistan (!!!).

You on the other hand will have a lot less networking support while travelling and you'll be dealing with distribution of controlled substances.

Just something to think about...
 
Yeah. Despite some things the guy said in his articles that I disagreed with, overall I like his point of view, especially the bit about how you can't be completely dropped out of the system or "in it", it's all a gray area so its better to just stay as much "in the system" as one feels comfortable with. There are no rules.
 
I'd be happy having a place to escape to within a gas-tank away from Babylon. If I lived in Australia, New Zealand or a South American country like Chile, Paraguay or Bolivia, I wouldn't worry.

At the escape (I'd have someone there at all times to watch over it) I'd bring several thousand pounds of corn, soybeans, salt, vitamin C, a .22 hunting rifle, AK47, lotsa ammo, pigs, chickens, etc. and good neighbors. This would be Western New Mexico. Or total relocation to Oregon, Washington or Northern Idaho.
 
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