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driving under the influence

puffbunnyx

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I know it is dumb and unsafe to drive while under the influence of a drug, but what have you guys been on while driving. Last night I drove home from a party after smokin some grass. pretty floatly man. But no matter how fun it was, it was a dumb idea. I know. It was an experience Im glad I had though
 
Originally posted by De Quincey on 8th Feb 2001 in Aus Social:
hey guys this is really important so thanks for taking the time. i've got a story to tell with a moral at the end.
on the morning of the 28th of january, a woman and her friend walked outside into the bright sun after a night of partying. it had been a good night, they'd had a couple of drinks and a pill each, but nothing out of the ordinary. They left the club tired after hours of dancing, and got into their car.
cruising home, the girl's friend fell asleep in the passenger seat. holding off yawns, the driver pulled onto beach road and shook herself awake.
as they reached brighton, the driver slipped into a doze. her head dropped and the car began to drift. with driver asleep, the car drifted across 4 lanes of traffic, colliding with a group of three cyclists travelling in the opposite direction. the car kept going, crashing right onto the beach foreshore, flipping and sliding in the process.
of the three cyclists, one walked away, one was seriously injured - spending the next week in intensive care, he is still in hospital and will be for some time. the third was killed instantly.
the man killed was my father.
the man in hospital is the father of a close friend of mine, my friend is also a bluelighter.
i tell you all this story because i hope it will make a difference somehow. the story is my own dramatisation based on facts gained from the police.
i'm not in a position to make judgments on the girl for taking drugs or being a raver - having experienced the scene myself i know what goes on. all i want to say is PLEASE guys, when you go out, do it responsibly.
Don't drive when you're affected, or when you're really tired. catch a taxi, public transport or get a friend to pick you up. Or get a designated driver to stay sober - just like if you go out drinking.
taking a responsible attitude can save lives, not just people like my dad, but the life of the driver (who was not injured) who has to live with what she did. and i'm sure if the press find out (which they most likely will) at the inquest into the accident that the driver had taken ecstacy at a "rave party", the papers will scream for raver blood. nobody wants any of these things to happen, ever.
i also want to make it clear that i'm not aiming this at anyone to cast blame, but it's a warning that if you come across these sorts of choices - particularly regarding driving - you know which choice to make. and you know why to make that choice.
thanks guys.
[This message has been edited by Pleonastic (edited 09 July 2001).]
 
i know you didn't post this with the intention to attract bad responses, but it's a very touchy subject. and for you to say
Last night I drove home from a party after smokin some grass. pretty floatly man.
enrages me. is someone else's life worth your high? no, i don't think so. i guess you won't understand the severity until something happens to you, or someone you care about.
i am in no way trying to be a bitch about this, but it just brings up some bad memories. one bad choice that i made getting into a car with someone who had, as i was told, "Only smoked & drank a little." a little my ass. long story short, he spun out, went left of center, did a 540 across a 2 lane road, and we ended up in a ditch. the asshole was so fucked up that it didn't phase him. when i got out of the car (i was sitting behind the passenger seat), i noticed that the back bumper was about 4 inches from a telephone pole. so, yeah. had he waited another eighth of a second to do whatever he did, i would have been killed on that windy back-road out in Alpharetta; and not here bitching at you. so next time you're going to hop in your car all wasted, just ask yourself, Can i really be this selfish?
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:CataLysT: Quod Me Netruit, Me Destruit.
-> Vino, Ganeis, Lenociniis, Adulteriisque Confectum.
 
Yeah, tragic story, etc... that wasn't a case of driving under the influance, it's just your typical woman driver... two raver girlies? Tired? Sorry, the one raver girlie had just worked some guy for a sack of coke, they were tweaking and the driver was rubbing the passangers crotch - all raver girlies are bi-sexual if ya didn't know... anyway, the raver girlie driving was distracted by a shiny object, the passanger was having an orgasam... this is why they wrecked...
It would be nice to assume that everyone has an alternative to driving tired, but this isn't the case.. if possible, ALWAYS keep some methamphetamine on hand for the ride home..
As for drugs that impair you.. I would say that you want to avoid drugs that slow yer reaction time or hinder your judgement DECEPTIVLY - alcohol is definitly the WORST OFFENDER... GHB and all of th benzos are up on the list too.. by "deceptive" I mean the drugs that you take and THINK you're fine, but you're actually fucked up more then you think .. everything else is kinda on an "as you can handle it" list... you can drive 100% fine while tripping balls, while blowing up, while tweaking, or while doped up on narcotics - it just takes experience..
Oh, and make sure you get OTHERS opinions on how you REALLY act fucked up... I would have swore 6 ways to Sunday that I was FINE under the influance of 4mg Rohypnol.. I gave it a second thought when I woke up at the bottom of a flight of stairs, ended up getting 6 stiches for the gash on my forehead (no idea how I got there) .. or GHB, when I wanted to drive somewhere but I couldn't stand up to get my keys - damn gravity!
Certinly don't consider driving until you're TOTALLY sure of yourself under the influance..
Personally I think marijuana would give me the most trouble, as I trip so hard.. it also KILLS my perception of speed and depth..
As a side note, after I rolled for the first time, I was overly paranoid about my driving and was pulled over for doing 7mph in a 45mph zone.. at least I didn't kill anyone!
I can NOT drive in 'rush hour' traffic UNLESS I have some narcotics or benzos in my system, I will get so violent I have got in a good amount of trouble for throwing objects at other cars, getting out and aproaching cars, etc.. I could *NOT* carry a gun or I *WOULD* accidently kill someone.. I have a scar across a few of my knuckles from putting my fist (almost) through my windshield.. it shouldn't have fucked with me!
I can also think of a fair amount of property damage I can attribute to some fucked up driving.. I slamed head on into a parked Lincoln (brand new!) when I was rolling REALLY HARD .. I fucked up the rear end of a friends Camaro when I backed into a tree, scratched a girls new Neon, and destroyed a rim and tire on some kids car I didn't really know - he let me drive it as I needed to get to the store and I agreed to by him some "blunts" - a tricked out Civic.. in all the above I quickly got the hell away from the scene, covered it up as best I could..
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I agree with absolutely nothing in phreex's post.
Drink and Drive: your a bloody idiot.
Drugged and Drive: your a bloody idiot.
The moment you step into a car under the influence of anything, it is not only your own life but those of innocent others you are taking into your hands. Don't.
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:: www.guerrillanews.com/cocakarma/ -- a must read ::
 
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PhreeX, how are you alive and out of prison?
I drive better while fucked up. I pay attention to the road, obey traffic signs, don't speed, use my blinkers, keep my distance from other cars, etc.
Being tired on the other hand? Side swiped an 18 wheeler, did a 360 on the highway, got really lost, knocked over many road signs, etc.
If I only had some meth back then...
 
Phreex gots teh funnay.
And on a side note, driving under the influence of drugs is bad, but you can practice to drive perfect on many substances. Just be sure you know very well how the chemical will effect you. When possible, driving on drugs should be avoided, though. Uppers such as meth excluded, since they tend to improve your driving and make yoy more aware. (for me anyway)
-Astian
[This message has been edited by Astian (edited 09 July 2001).]
 
To recap - once you know how you handle the drugs, drive...
Hey, we need to be *realistic* .. when you leave a rave at the end of the night, you're going to drive home... the biggest danger is probably driving tired, so, USE SOME METH!
And until you're SURE of yourself, don't try to drive under the influance of thinkgs like LSD or MDMA - but once you master it, there isn't that much danger...
Avoid it if you can, but thats not always realistic...
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PACK.MY.BEAK
 
PhreeX, Wickedclown_stl, Astian:
I chose not to bring this up until now cos I didn't think it was neccessary as my very good friend DeQuincey had done a very good job of it(the people in AusSocial aren't as braindamaged as you three). If you ever have the pleasure of being called into hospital on a bright sunday morning because your dad was in "a bit of a bike accident" only to find that not only is he unconscious but can't breathe on his own, has lost half or more of his blood, broken however many bones, fucked up whichever organs and may have permanent head injuries then you might stop driving after parties. Oh I almost forgot, then being told that although your dad will most likely be ok (but the Dr's can't be sure yet) that your best friends dad was killed and although you now know, his family can't be found but lucky the news item gave them an inkling.
But the part which really undid me was seeing my dad in intensive care later that night when he came out of theatre. I don't want to describe how it looked and I can't describe how it made me feel.
You can mock whatever you want about this situation and say all the usual crap about wizz making you a better driver and learning to drive when you're fucked up(I don't know how that works cos I quite often lose even the most simple of motor skills) but in the end I wish this hadn't happened to DeQunicey and me and I wish the girl driving had read and taken notice of a post like this.I wonder how she is right now?
The funny thing is that this whole situation could have been so easily avoided.
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But who needs a car, when you've got a pogo stick
[This message has been edited by Prometheus (edited 09 July 2001).]
 
You guys all preach that about how horrible it is to drive under the influence, but you are not telling us anything we don't know. And can you honostly say you have never gotten behind the wheel with any substance that might impair your driving in your system or gotten in the car with someone with the same?
To anwser the question:
I would say the stupidest thing I ever did was drive shortly after snorting 15mg of 2C-T-7. That was pretty difficult.
Another stupid one was driving after taking Foxy and having a couple rum and cokes. Note that this one was stupid because of the alcohol, not the foxy. Also, I had 2 girls all over each other in my back seat and I was trying to watch that and drive. Plus one of the girls would take a break every now and then to lick and kiss on my ear and shit.. just imagine that while on foxy.
However, when I drive while rolling, as long as my eyes aren't rolling back in my head or some shit, I can drive fine. I can actually drive better than fine. I feel like a race car driver and I turn my car sideways around turns and shit. It's great fun and I can do it every bit as well while rolling as when sober.
What it all comes down to is the catch. Do the right thing: give your keys to a friend. But then walk about 10-15 feet away and say "now give them back..." Your friend should then toss you the keys. If you catch them, get in the car and drive. If you miss them, toss them back to your friend and if he catches them, he is driving.
I really wish I woulda had a friend with me when I got in the car after snorting the T7. I never would have caught the keys that time.
Max
 
If those girls had had the accident the day before with no mdma in their system, but instead hayfever tablets which made the driver drowzy, it would have been a completely different story.
How many pilots take to the wheel of a plane, after very little sleep and a couple of beers and jet-lag pills ? More than you think.
I've seen overworked doctors high as a kite on their own stash while seeing people.
Its a fucked up world but i'm proud to be part of it.
 
Thats true also. You can hit and kill someone whether straight or chopped as there is a huge chance element involved. But the fact of the matter is when the blood test is carried out and something is found it makes the situation that much worse for the driver(legally and personally) regardless of the unavoidability of the accident.
 
well i always drive under the influence of weed, i dont find it hard at all. ive driven pissed twice, which was so stupid of me. and ive driven pillin once, and almost put my car into a pole tryin to turn a corner. thats sumthing ill never do again.
[This message has been edited by smacca (edited 09 July 2001).]
 
its threads like this that remind me exactly why I rarely click on any thread without aus in the name (other than pill testing, trips and legal).
yeah, yeah my dick is bigger than yours, etc etc, I've driven while getting a blow job blah blah blah. pfft.
If your not going to avoid driving under the influence because of the potential harm it might have on others, at least think of yourself. If you get in a serious accident, and are found to have drugs in your system then more than likely you're going to spend some time in jail. And if you don't then you bloody well should.
Anyone that states that meth is a good substance to drive on is kidding themselves. A stated effect is a false sense of confidence and power (erowid), which is exactly what you don't want when driving.
Thank god I don't live in america, where from the above comments it can only be assumed that its common place for drug affected losers to be on the road.
[note: I have driven after raves, but only when I have dropped some 8 hours earlier and have had a good rest prior to driving]
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you have a huge fucking ego and need to lose it fast. your country isn't better than ours and ours isn't better than yours. you can't make an assumption about america's driving habits from this thread and compare it to australia's [how the fuck are you supposed to know how many people in australia are driving under the influence of anything? are you mrs. cleo or something?]. in fact if you use this thread as evidence, it seems that us americans CAN drive safe under the influence and you guys just can't handle it and end up claming lives. sorry if i offended the parties w/ lost family members from that incident, but i'm making a point to those not involved: shut the fuck up about your damn country.
[This message has been edited by dpp (edited 09 July 2001).]
 
sorry dpp, i didn't mean to over generalise, but it's pretty hard to stay rational after reading some of the above posts. I've been friends with many americans that have graced our shores, and I should have kept my grievances with only the idiots.
Just to point out, it's obvious from the above posts that people CAN'T drive while under the influence (or tired):
CataLysT^3: 1 accident (admitedly he wasn't driving)
Phreex: 4 accidents
wickedclown_stl: 1 accident (tiredness)
smacca: 1 almost accident
All it takes is for one unlucky pedestrian to be in the way and the results could have been drastically different.
I'm not saying australian drivers are any different, in fact I rate any driver under the influence as a bad driver no matter where they happen to be or their nationality.
Harm Minimisation people: Please....
[This message has been edited by pundi (edited 09 July 2001).]
 
Im sorry but in principal i agree with what Phreex is saying.
In the Uk many people drive under the influence of drugs, mainly because you might have to travel far to get to a decent club.
I also think everyone should stop flaming the author of this post, if anyone reading this is not capable of deciding for themselves that driving under the influance is a danger then they should not be taking drugs.
I personally have never driven on drugs and i hope to keep it that way, but i will happily get into a car with someone who has.
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my doctor actually reccomends that I drive while on amphetamines. (i have a.d.d.) all im sayin is that i smoked a bit at a party then drove home an hour later. I thought I could drive well and be responsible, which i did do. I was not too high, but high enough to make driving real fun, dangerous too. but I felt that I was responsible. Now i know some people will give me shit saying that "you drive under the influence of anything, your not responsible." but hey, i learned that i can drive now while a little high. and that it might be useful in a later time, like if i have to drive home people that are more fucked up than me.
 
Good point scratchmaster.
I'm curious, for the people that say they never drive after taking drugs, do you also never allow a friend who has used drugs that night to drive for you?
 
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