Originally posted by babydoc_vic:
Fear of police involvement should never stop you from seeking medical treatment for someone who is intoxicated and seriously unwell.
Hearty advice - why risk someones life for fear of getting busted? You'll be 20x as far up shit creek if they are seriously harmed/die...
Wazza, that thread should be stabbed, killed, stomped on, screwed up, put through a shredder, garbage compactor and finally a kiln. It's ashes should then be shot into orbit
sydkiwi: are you sure it was rohypnol? How do you know?
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drink spiking- beware
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i've had some experience with drink spiking. When out with my best mate at a club in St Kilda he had his drink spiked. He had been drinking a bit but then it seemed quite sudden, he was wrecked. his eyes were rolling back in his head, he had to vomit, couldn't walk, had no balance and kept trying to pass out. Very scary night as I had been drinking a bit that night too so didn't have all my wits about me but enough to look after him. Other friends out with us just put it down to him being pissed or not able to handle his grog. A pretty stupid stance to take when one of your friends is clearly ill. I ended up taking him home and looking after him, and he was ok next day, just felt bit sick. No idea who would have spiked his drink, maybe the spiker was aiming for a chicks drink but put whatever it was in wrong glass. But he was drinking bear so spiker could have assumed it was probably a guys drink.
I've also had my own drink spiked at a club in melbourne. Was one of the most scary experiences of my life, 2nd scariest was seeing it happen to my friend 2 months earlier. I had been drinking a fair bit that night and was drunk. But you know in yourself when something happens like getting your drink spiked. I went from being in control but having fun with less inhibitions (the usual alcohol effects) to being a total mess where I couldn't focus my eyes on anything, everything was spining, constant vomiting and just not understanding what is happening. I a relatively good deal of experiene with drugs and I was unable to just step back and say 'well my drink must have been spiked, i'll just ride it out'. Thats not how it works, it is some scary shit when it is happening.
My best advice is to always keep track of your drinks or maybe even just drink out of bottles or cans, that way harder for someone to discretely slip something into your drink.
Beech out
I've also had my own drink spiked at a club in melbourne. Was one of the most scary experiences of my life, 2nd scariest was seeing it happen to my friend 2 months earlier. I had been drinking a fair bit that night and was drunk. But you know in yourself when something happens like getting your drink spiked. I went from being in control but having fun with less inhibitions (the usual alcohol effects) to being a total mess where I couldn't focus my eyes on anything, everything was spining, constant vomiting and just not understanding what is happening. I a relatively good deal of experiene with drugs and I was unable to just step back and say 'well my drink must have been spiked, i'll just ride it out'. Thats not how it works, it is some scary shit when it is happening.
My best advice is to always keep track of your drinks or maybe even just drink out of bottles or cans, that way harder for someone to discretely slip something into your drink.
Beech out
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*bloodtest taken*
Doc: "It appears your drink was spiked with various amphetamines, THC, Ketamine and we have reason to believe there were other trace substances that could indicate hallucinogens and research chemicals."
BLer: "Ooer."
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
on a serious note......... HOLD your drinks............. WATCH the bar staff pour them and hand them too you. i see so many idiots aimlessly looking around not even noticing their drink is there with the barstaff waiting for money.
i mean it must be near impossible for someone to spike your drink if your holding it.
or........... drink enough before you enter the club to sustain you for the night.
or............ take enough illicit substances to feel drunk.
:D
*bloodtest taken*
Doc: "It appears your drink was spiked with various amphetamines, THC, Ketamine and we have reason to believe there were other trace substances that could indicate hallucinogens and research chemicals."
BLer: "Ooer."
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
on a serious note......... HOLD your drinks............. WATCH the bar staff pour them and hand them too you. i see so many idiots aimlessly looking around not even noticing their drink is there with the barstaff waiting for money.
i mean it must be near impossible for someone to spike your drink if your holding it.
or........... drink enough before you enter the club to sustain you for the night.
or............ take enough illicit substances to feel drunk.
:D
phase_dancer
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Looking at the most common things used to spike drinks and the relative times (roughly) these can be detected after taking:
Alcohol (extra added ): Some time after, but difficult to establish conclusively if you were drinking alcohol anyway.
G compounds (GHB, 1,4B, GBL etc): These are difficult to detect after absorption. A few hours after consumption and there is nothing left which can be checked due to metabolism of the compound, although the effects may still persist.
Benzos: These compounds can be detected for several hours after consumption.
There can be a rather awkward problem with going legal, even if you do get a blood test and have witnesses. Unless someone is willing to testify that they saw your drink being spiked, then it means nothing much as an accusation.
Another thing is to always go straight to the police station if you think you've been "Slipped a Mickey". Make sure that the blood test you first receive is by a Police Authorised Dr.
I know of a case where the officer on duty mistakenly sent the victim to After Hours Emergency. Although the test clearly showed she had been given benzo's, because procedure hadn't been followed she had no case. The officer got reprimanded, but it didn't help the girl. It was fortunante she was strong enough to get through the matter. The perpetrator on the other hand was not so fortunante. He would have been far better off if the police had been involved if you get my drift 8(
Alcohol (extra added ): Some time after, but difficult to establish conclusively if you were drinking alcohol anyway.
G compounds (GHB, 1,4B, GBL etc): These are difficult to detect after absorption. A few hours after consumption and there is nothing left which can be checked due to metabolism of the compound, although the effects may still persist.
Benzos: These compounds can be detected for several hours after consumption.
There can be a rather awkward problem with going legal, even if you do get a blood test and have witnesses. Unless someone is willing to testify that they saw your drink being spiked, then it means nothing much as an accusation.
Another thing is to always go straight to the police station if you think you've been "Slipped a Mickey". Make sure that the blood test you first receive is by a Police Authorised Dr.
I know of a case where the officer on duty mistakenly sent the victim to After Hours Emergency. Although the test clearly showed she had been given benzo's, because procedure hadn't been followed she had no case. The officer got reprimanded, but it didn't help the girl. It was fortunante she was strong enough to get through the matter. The perpetrator on the other hand was not so fortunante. He would have been far better off if the police had been involved if you get my drift 8(
I suspect i was i given something on friday night, i did have a couple of drinks, definetely less than usual. And i had a pretty scarey blank completely blank night. I'm very confused about what happened to me. This was friday night so i guess with it being monday its too late now?
"I wish someone would spike my drink"
Thats gotta one of the dumbest things i've ever heard. Maybe the idea of free drugs is appealing to you and you may think it would be great. Its totally different to knowingly taking drugs. Its not something you want to happen.
Thats gotta one of the dumbest things i've ever heard. Maybe the idea of free drugs is appealing to you and you may think it would be great. Its totally different to knowingly taking drugs. Its not something you want to happen.
shorza
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^^^
Good call beech.
I would have thought a bluelighter would have had more brains then to write a comment like that.![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Good call beech.
I would have thought a bluelighter would have had more brains then to write a comment like that.
BigTrancer
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Lets take it as a joke and move on.
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I agree wholeheartedly: see this post for my own view on the subject.
My comment was merely to stamp out the sparks in the current thread. I just wanted this thread to avoid turning into a flame war, which it easily could if people miscontrue someone posting "that's such a dumb thing to say" as meaning "you're dumb for saying that", as often happens. One person puts up a glib one-liner either in jest or seriously, but when someone bites it can turn into a slanging match that drags serious threads off track. My action was merely preventative, so we can get on with the conversation, that's all.
BigTrancer
My comment was merely to stamp out the sparks in the current thread. I just wanted this thread to avoid turning into a flame war, which it easily could if people miscontrue someone posting "that's such a dumb thing to say" as meaning "you're dumb for saying that", as often happens. One person puts up a glib one-liner either in jest or seriously, but when someone bites it can turn into a slanging match that drags serious threads off track. My action was merely preventative, so we can get on with the conversation, that's all.
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wallyweaver
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I know this might be a little off track but I really do hope that people take this thread seriously and really think twice about who is actually pouring your drinks or think how well you actually know the person buying you a drink. I know how easy it is to just not take any notice. I have made this mistake once and I really did pay the price for it. I had about three drinks (my last one of which was bought for me) and then I have no recollection of the next 10 hours. I'm glad I don't remember because some things happenned that I really wish didn't happen and I can't take them back now. Thinking about this night makes me sick. I guess I don't know for sure what I was given, or if I was given anything at all but to this day I really can't think of any other explanation.
I consider myself lucky though. A guy I know wasn't so lucky. Don't think this just happens to chicks. There are some really screwed up people out there that get a kick out of spiking people's drinks and just watchiing them suffer. It's really sad that there are such sick people around like this but unfortunately there are. So
PLEASE please be careful guys......
I consider myself lucky though. A guy I know wasn't so lucky. Don't think this just happens to chicks. There are some really screwed up people out there that get a kick out of spiking people's drinks and just watchiing them suffer. It's really sad that there are such sick people around like this but unfortunately there are. So
PLEASE please be careful guys......
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Thanks for the story wallyweaver, that's a cautionary message everyone could use.
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National drink-spiking survey underway
WITH fears rising of increased numbers of women falling victim to drink-spiking, a national project aims to raise awareness of the crime.
The Australian Institute of Criminology will investigate the nature and extent of drink-spiking and its connection with sexual assault.
The project, funded by the Commonwealth Attorney-General's Department, will involve police, sexual assault centres, hospitals, emergency workers and the liquor industry.
The AIC will soon advertise for victims in each state and territory to take part in telephone interviews. Project manager Natalie Taylor said there was no "hard evidence nationally on drink-spiking".
SA Child and Youth Health welcomed the project and said its youth healthline, had recorded an increased number of calls relating to drink-spiking.
"This time of the year we find there is the potential for an increase in the number of spiked-drink occurrences," CYH youth services strategic manager Dorian Marsland said.
"It's starting to become the party season and more people are out and about drinking - for some it will be their first drinking experience.
"The concerns raised to us is that young people are just not sure what has happened to them or if they have been victims of sexual assault."
CYH community health worker Brad McCloud said most incidents of spiked drinks took place in isolated locations rather than bars, but cautioned young people not to underestimate the effects of alcohol.
SA police said yesterday they were concerned about drink-spiking and they were pleased to be involved with the institute's research project. One victim, Lorrene Smale, 28, had a stark warning for other young people. "Don't think it doesn't happen, because it does," she said yesterday.
Ms Smale, of Prospect, was a victim of drink-spiking four years ago when at a club dancing with some friends.
After sipping her drink, which had been next to her feet, she "started to feel queasy, light-headed and sweaty".
Her friend's boyfriend had a sip of the drink and said he thought it had been spiked.
Ms Smale spent the next five hours in hospital.
Friends Jodie Scarvelis, 29, of Richmond, and Kirsti Barclay, 36, of Fulham Gardens, said they were wary and never accepted drinks from strangers.
taken from here
WITH fears rising of increased numbers of women falling victim to drink-spiking, a national project aims to raise awareness of the crime.
The Australian Institute of Criminology will investigate the nature and extent of drink-spiking and its connection with sexual assault.
The project, funded by the Commonwealth Attorney-General's Department, will involve police, sexual assault centres, hospitals, emergency workers and the liquor industry.
The AIC will soon advertise for victims in each state and territory to take part in telephone interviews. Project manager Natalie Taylor said there was no "hard evidence nationally on drink-spiking".
SA Child and Youth Health welcomed the project and said its youth healthline, had recorded an increased number of calls relating to drink-spiking.
"This time of the year we find there is the potential for an increase in the number of spiked-drink occurrences," CYH youth services strategic manager Dorian Marsland said.
"It's starting to become the party season and more people are out and about drinking - for some it will be their first drinking experience.
"The concerns raised to us is that young people are just not sure what has happened to them or if they have been victims of sexual assault."
CYH community health worker Brad McCloud said most incidents of spiked drinks took place in isolated locations rather than bars, but cautioned young people not to underestimate the effects of alcohol.
SA police said yesterday they were concerned about drink-spiking and they were pleased to be involved with the institute's research project. One victim, Lorrene Smale, 28, had a stark warning for other young people. "Don't think it doesn't happen, because it does," she said yesterday.
Ms Smale, of Prospect, was a victim of drink-spiking four years ago when at a club dancing with some friends.
After sipping her drink, which had been next to her feet, she "started to feel queasy, light-headed and sweaty".
Her friend's boyfriend had a sip of the drink and said he thought it had been spiked.
Ms Smale spent the next five hours in hospital.
Friends Jodie Scarvelis, 29, of Richmond, and Kirsti Barclay, 36, of Fulham Gardens, said they were wary and never accepted drinks from strangers.
taken from here
I have also experienced an unfortunate incident of drink-spiking. About 6 weeks ago I went to a smallish pub to see a band with some close friends. This is a regular event for us, and on most nights I would have approx. 6 vodka & oranges over a period of about 4 hours, which isn’t enough to become drunk. This night was no different, except that after my 3rd drink about 12am I began feeling quite ill. At first I was very dizzy, needing to sit down quite often. Then the nausea set in and from that time on I spent a lot of time in the bathrooms sick. Luckily I was able to get my friends attention and they got me out of there and home. This was about 2am. I really don’t remember anything between about 1am – 8am the next morning. I was still vomiting until 11am. I can only put it down to something being in one of my drinks. As I always buy my own drinks, I think the only time this could’ve occurred was while playing pool when the drink was on the table.
Whenever I am out drinking now I keep my drink in my hand or where I can see it at all times. It wasn’t an experience I would wish on anyone and I think myself lucky that I had trustworthy friends there who did everything they could to help, or it could’ve been a lot worse. I guess I was one who thought it wouldn’t happen to me in that situation… it just goes to show there are some twisted people out there.
Whenever I am out drinking now I keep my drink in my hand or where I can see it at all times. It wasn’t an experience I would wish on anyone and I think myself lucky that I had trustworthy friends there who did everything they could to help, or it could’ve been a lot worse. I guess I was one who thought it wouldn’t happen to me in that situation… it just goes to show there are some twisted people out there.
special-k said:
If you don't have anything on you, you have nothing to worry about, the police will only be called if you were abused or dead. If you have something on you and the nurses find it, *most* nurses will just chuck it in the bin but if you have a dickhead nurse then she will call the police, so if you go in with a friend whos having a bad trip or heating up etc and you know hes carrying, just grab it off him and either keep it or bin it