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DPT - First Time - Low Dose

Adolfo

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I had been planning on doing DPT on NYE for a while. I had DMT but had started getting worried by the reports of tolerance. I figured that by using an non-endogenous chemical I would just be supplementing rather than supplanting.

As it got time I started getting a little scared and decided to go with a low dose. There are two comments in the big and dandy DPT thread about the recreationality of such amounts.

At about 10:40 I insufflated 30mg divided into two lines. I'd never experienced a drip before and supposed it would feel like accidentaly breathing in water in the shower. Maybe it was because I'd spent most of the day outside or maybe it was because my nose naturally gets a little stuffy during winter but I ended up tasting DPT everytime I swallowed. It didn't burn so much as taste bad. I had a glass of water flavored with vitamin C to water it down.

Anyway, by about T+:30 I was definitely starting to get alerts. I started getting cold and had to put on another layer of clothing. Watching MTV's new year of music was not markedly different and in fact seemed to be keeping me grounded.

At T+:45 I returned from the bathroom mirror where I had the familiarly different view of myself I'd most recently gotten from a low dose of Salvia. I chose a different chair because it faced south although I couldn't see the TV as much. Listening, though, I got increasingly dark and hurtful beliefs.

I usually listen to electronic music and am not very much into the popular music scene. Hearing interviews, I would hear they'd brainwash me and I'd want to be like them. They wanted to 'say' and not hold back. Hosts knew and enjoyed the display. They could use the others' bodies by worshipping them.

Being inside a rap star's body singing their song for a while was fun and possible. The host in green explained that 2006 was going to be like 2005 except with a little more artist, which scared me as I already felt different from the artists. I thought I should go to sleep. There was minimal bodyload, some nausea but nothing too permanent.

At T+1:30 I was coming down, although later that night I calculated that the experience had lasted a solid 2 hours. I shut off the TV a little before 12:30 and went to the computer to write a little about what was on my mind. During the trip while watching TV the prevailing train of thought was a 'there-for-me' reporter. When I changed to in front of the computer, however, I IM'ed happy new year holiday cheer to everyone and got some unexpected replies. I started identifying with a family who's advice was that I 'should' go to sleep. I ignored it a couple of times and wrote anyway, telling myself that writing a trip report was better than not writing one.

They, on the other hand, were concerned with not talking. Saying as little as possible made me sound smarter. Stopping the desire to talk was difficult.
Finally turned it and went to wash up before bed. Had involved conversations and good times. Felt like I connected to the idea of someone. Listened to some music before going to bed and had fun. Overall I thoroughly enjoyed myself although I see the possibility of depression given the underlying fear.
 
man, DPT is not a social drug at all...you are comepletely gone at the right dose. like down to the fusion of molecules that create the universe and then if you want to go beyond that, your ego will comepletely die for a while, and initially its really fucking scary.

good luck
 
I find that at lower doses, DPT is almost identical to MDMA to me. At higher doses, it has the same effect you mentioned, dexter. It reminds of how, in some cartoons when you have a high-pitched sounds or opera singers breaking glass through resonance? I find the strong vibration from high-dose DPT to do the same thing to reality...
 
Ego-loss what is this? Does one commonly know when they have lost their ego? i did about 100mg of dpt a bit ago and i have exp. with many other pyschoactives and have still yet to find something that is described as ego loss.
 
well then how can you tell someone that their ego will die if it is something one must work for. This term is becoming way to common for a certain peak point in an exp.

Does it really count as ego death if for only a few moments the mind set is changed and soon after the same egotistic views are still predominant?
 
I disagree dexter.

I think that the only thing that you cannot work towards with psychedelics is ego dissolution.

Ego analysis - yes, this definitely takes a lot of work.

But ego loss? I think the more you chase it, the more illusive it becomes.

Generally, you do not realize that you've experienced ego-loss until after the fact.
 
Jamshyd said:
I disagree dexter.

I think that the only thing that you cannot work towards with psychedelics is ego dissolution.

Ego analysis - yes, this definitely takes a lot of work.

But ego loss? I think the more you chase it, the more illusive it becomes.

Generally, you do not realize that you've experienced ego-loss until after the fact.

Yes, I'd have to agree 100% with that.
 
Forget about 'ego loss'. Its not important. Just take some DPT in a relaxed and pleasant place, sit back, and enjoy the moment for what it is.
 
Even though it may not seem like it, I enjoyed myself quite a bit. Maybe it was the sinister 'feel' to DPT so many seem to report, maybe it was my mindset/expectations/placebo, but if I had to choose one way to describe the trip I would liken it to a horror movie. It was scary, but I knew it was only a trip.

Sorry if my report is a little fragmented and/or seems to refer to personal ideas. I was integrating the experience at the same time I was writing the report, so was concerned with getting everything down more than making it clear. To summarize, the experience consisted predominantly of maniacal thought patterns, corner-of-the-eye visuals and minimal body load.

An MAOI, booster dose or alternate method of administration are possible avenues for exploration. I'm a little worried about tolerance but at such small doses and spaced sufficiently apart I don't think it should be an issue. Finally I would be interested in a possible synergy with Salvia tincture.

gloggawogga said:
Forget about 'ego loss'. Its not important. Just take some DPT in a relaxed and pleasant place, sit back, and enjoy the moment for what it is.
 
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^ I am not sure why many people say that DPT has a "sinister" face or something along those lines. It might have something to do with one's attitude towards Death, since DPT and Death seem to have a lot in common.

Anyways - from my eperiences and reading, it seems that it takes quite a lot of DPT to develope tolerance. I have read of people redosing several times without noticing tolerance (the way it happens with DMT). I have once redosed on DPT about an hour and a half after the first dose, and it had a powerful effect and considerably prolonged the trip (it lasted about 5 hours after the boost, making it a total of 6.5 hours). Of course, the aftereffects and the beautiful afterglow also last very, very long.
 
That's great news. I expect there's no possibility of endogenous downregulation either (i.e. perma-tolerance, to borrow Yaesutom's term) since DPT doesn't occur endogenously, right? As for the sinister bit, I admit I was a little biased since the first thing I ever read about DPT was Daniel Pinchbeck's chapter on it in 'Breaking open the head'. There is also something to be said for the overall feel of the experience reports on Erowid.
 
Man, when I snorted it, it burned so bad that I couldn't get over it and trip!

Glad you had that water!
 
gloggawogga said:
Forget about 'ego loss'. Its not important. Just take some DPT in a relaxed and pleasant place, sit back, and enjoy the moment for what it is.

I agree. this really is a beautiful substance.
 
Jamshyd said:
^ I am not sure why many people say that DPT has a "sinister" face or something along those lines. It might have something to do with one's attitude towards Death, since DPT and Death seem to have a lot in common.

I've had numerous DPT experiences, close to two dozen. Some were very beautiful, but all (save for my first DPT trip in which I took it orally) had a good amount of fear attached that were just a part of the experience. There is just something about DPT that pushes the limits for me. And I say this as a veteran of far too many LSD trips to count, as a person who finds 5-MeO-DMT the holy grail, and as a person who is definitely not scared to just trust and surrender.

It might also have to do with route of administration. All but a few of my DPT trips have been by way of IM injection. I remember reading that you have not tried this route. Actually, now that I think about it...the two most downright frightening trips I've had (on the verge of psychosis) with DPT were from insufflated DPT. Not sure what that changes, but I thought it should be relevant.

I think it just comes down to different strokes for different folks. If it were not that way, then everyone would have the same favorite psychedelic, and everyone's trip reports would read the same. I think one of the things that makes psychedelic experiences so interesting is that there are as many trips as there are people! :)
 
^ True, that is interesting.

I'd say DPT is the one psychedelic I am most familiar with, but this frequency of use is due to the fact that I find the DPT space very welcoming and extremly euphoric and exhillerating. It seems like my psyche enjoys the deconstructive, apocalyptic nature of the drug so much to the point that my body actually sometimes goes into spontaneous orgams by itself (erection and all!)...

Thats why I was wondering why some people find it so intimidating. Though you're definitely right - evidence that I find 5-MeO-DMT to be very intense but almost devoid of psychospiritual merit ;).
 
Jamshyd said:
It seems like my psyche enjoys the deconstructive, apocalyptic nature of the drug so much to the point that my body actually sometimes goes into spontaneous orgams by itself (erection and all!)...


wait so you really have had spontaneous orgasms too? man i thought you were makin up some mumble jumble just because! Very cool that we have been in the same boat! I really enojyed my dpt trip and can't remotely call it sinister, a bit scare but i guess its all how each brain works.
 
Lol no, I didnt make that up for no reason. That, and that I see lots of butterflies and eye-murals on almost all DPT trips, are both true. :)
 
I had a sorta spontaneous orgasm...but on 2C-T-7. THe music (That's It FOr The Other One by G. Dead on Anthem of the Sun) was so beautiful, that the music began to cry for the beauty of it all. Yes, the music cried...emotional as well as physically (I could hear it cry) and all the while staying on key.

This was so powerful I had a full body orgasm wih that shook me to the ground. I just got a rish thinking about it 4 1/2 year later. No ejaculation, but a full body orgasm beyond anything else. Then I broke out in tears because it was all so beautiful and special.

Gosh I miss 2C-T-7. I wish I had the time to visit her again. Hopefully soon. And T-7 is another example...for me it is the emotions of MDMA and the visionary power of mescaline, X1000. My favorite. But many hate. Others find it ho-hum. Different strokes for different folks.
 
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