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(DPT/55mg intranasal + unknown smoked) Experienced: Sometimes It's Good To Get Weird

cj187

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I had a very powerful experience on DPT a few days ago and I can't stop thinking about it. I've used it plenty of times, but mostly at low doses. I had one intense trip a year ago that showed me its ego dissolving power. After my most recent experience I'm even more in love with it.

I wasn't planning on tripping, but I had been thinking about DPT recently. A few days previously, I was looking at H.R. Giger artwork and it reminded me very much of DPT. Its dark and a bit frightening, but also beautiful in a strange way, a blend of macabre and sexual themes. I decided to convert some DPT to freebase and put it in my freebase pipe so it would be ready to smoke later.

On the day of the trip I spent the whole day at home and I was feeling bored and apathetic. Suddenly I had the urge to have a beer or two to relax and take some DPT. I'll try not to go into graphic detail, but the sexual aspect of DPT is often a major part of the experience for me. I wouldn't use other psychedelics in this way but DPT is different. It seems like a paradox. It's powerful and produces religious feelings, but it's so kinky and hedonistic at the same time.

I'm pretty cautious with drugs and usually pretty conservative with my dosages compared to most people I see on these forums. The idea of snorting a fat line of a reality shattering psychedelic scares me. When I take DPT, I start off smoking it since it's not a big commitment. I'll smoke a little bit at a time, then if I like where the trip is headed, I'll start snorting small bumps of it. I usually don't get much of a drip, and I think it's because I snort about 10mg at a time then wait a few minutes.

After I smoked an unknown amount, I weighed out 55mg and snorted it over the course of an hour. By the time I finished it, the trip was getting intense. I smoked a little more and laid down. I could feel my body fading in and out of existence and my senses were starting merge together. The music I was listening to sounded amazing. I heard so much that I had never noticed before.

I had porn playing throughout most of the trip. I wasn't focused on it the whole time, but it really set the mood. Most psychedelics can be very erotic, but not really in the same way as DPT. LSD for example makes me feel like an animal and amplifies sensorial stimulation. DPT on the other hand is sexual in a more abstract, spiritual way. It's puts more focus on the power and submission aspects of sex. If you have any interest in kinky shit, DPT will surely bring it out. I spent much of the trip slipping in and out of a state of ego death, writhing in ecstasy, feeling like I was having sex with the universe. I turned off my air condition because it felt so good to be hot and sweaty. I remember at one point when I wasn't fully disintegrated I thought I was an oozing, slithering mass of wormlike creatures. I know that might sound like a weird thing to experience, but it was remarkably pleasurable.

The body load is an important component of a DPT trip for me. Some people say it's uncomfortable, but I think it feels amazing. I would go as far as to say that DPT is one of the least uncomfortable psychedelics I've tried. Its a lot different from other body loads. It isn't just a side effect, it's inseparable from the mind trip. I love the way it completely overpowers you and all you can do is let yourself lose control. I can see how somebody who is afraid of completely letting go and losing themself in the trip could find it uncomfortable.

In the past, I haven't considered DPT to be very visual. During this trip, however, I saw the most amazing open eye visuals I've ever seen. It was like a moving, colorful Giger painting. At times. there seemed to be a bright glowing haze throughout my apartment, similar to a stereotypical depiction of heaven. The closest thing I can compare the trip to visually is ayahuasca. There is another thing that was happening that's difficult to describe. It was like I could see some of my thoughts. Like I would think something and see it as mental imagery, but there was no real line separating mental imagery from what I was actually seeing. I guess it's a form of synesthesia.

The effects came in waves. During the most intense points, I would lose all awareness of reality and all of existence would seem to collapse into a singularity, just a vibration that I could hear and feel with the entirety of my being. This happened many times, but I don't think it ever lasted very long. During the lulls in intensity there was still a lot of weirdness. At one point in the trip, reality would seem to change in a profound way that I can't even describe. It was like I kept traveling between alternate versions of reality. It was pretty disorienting when I tried to walk around. It was like my apartment would rearrange itself every few seconds. I can recall a brief moment when I was outside my body standing next to myself and I thought, "Okay, who all is here? It's me and this other guy, who is he again? Oh wait, that's just me". It's hard to remember some parts of the trip because what I was experiencing was so different from ordinary perception.

As much as I value my DPT trips, I wouldn't describe all of it as fun. When things get intense, it isn't "good" or "bad", it's everything, it's pure existence. To be honest, I can't disagree with people who say that DPT is frightening. It's scary in an exhilarating way. You just have to have faith in the fact that you'll be okay, let yourself go, and let the drug do what it does. It's pretty much what I imagine it would be like to go skydiving.

Compared to other psychedelics, the fear aspect of DPT seems without consequence. In my experience, it's more akin to the fear of imminent physical danger than to the deep existential despair and self doubt caused by something like LSD or mushrooms. I think DPT may be more likely to cause an unpleasant experience, but less prone to causing lasting psychological trauma. I can't speak for everybody of course. I guess how you react to it depends on what you are afraid of.

Immediately after the trip, I felt like I wouldn't want to have an experience like that for a very long time, but there's something very seductive about it that makes me want more. I'll probably give 4-HO-DPT another shot before I take DPT again. I haven't been impressed by it so far, but I feel like I should give it a chance. It does seem like it can be DPT-like at high doses, although the body load is pretty rough compared to DPT in my experience.

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Very relatable experience, but I feel like my 4-HO-DPT breakthrough was more joyful with almost no bodyload, except for the usual paralysing force of tryptamines. Would like to have more experiences with DPT too, the little amount I had once didn't work for me in all sorts of ROA's...
 
Nice, thanks for posting this here too. :) It's strange, when I look back to early DPT reports on Erowid, almost all of them talk about intense fear, even if they were rewarding trips, and almost across the board people were saying it felt "sinister" or something similar. Intense fear and discomfort. But these days most people say that it's nothing to fear and isn't sinister at all.
 
Awesome report, cj187, thanks much for writing it up. :) I still haven't gotten around to trying DPT yet, but this definitely made me more interested in it, and having tried as many similar molecules as I have I did still also find your observations quite relatable.

I find it very interesting how much you talk about DPT being kinky or bringing out an interest in such things. This is honestly how I feel about most tryptamines.... Even mushrooms give me beautiful visions of women dressed up in colorful latex outfits and that kind of stuff. I'm very curious to see just how much stronger DPT could be in this way....

Also, I just had one quick question. In this section...

The body load is an important component of a DPT trip for me. Some people say it's uncomfortable, but I think it feels amazing. I would go as far as to say that DPT is one of the least uncomfortable psychedelics I've tried. Its a lot different from other body loads. It isn't just a side effect, it's inseparable from the mind trip. I love the way it completely overpowers you and all you can do is let yourself lose control. I can see how somebody who is afraid of completely letting go and losing themself in the trip could find it uncomfortable.

...you kind of say a lot without really saying much. What kind of body load did you experience, exactly?

Anyway, thanks again. :)
 
It's comparable to the body feeling on other tryptamines but there's more of a feeling of heaviness and more powerful body vibrations. The body vibrations differ a bit from those of other psychedelics in that they seem to be tuned to a lower frequency and higher amplitude. There was a short time during this trip where the trembling in my arms became spasms, which started to worry me a bit but it never got too bad and only lasted a few minutes. For the most part, my muscles feel very loose and relaxed on DPT. When the trip gets intense, it feels like your body is being disintegrated. I also noticed at times that my heart was beating pretty fast, but not dangerously fast.

When I say that the body load is part of the trip I mean that the mental phenomena like echoing is in sync with the body vibrations, and there is a lot of synesthesia blending body sensations with other senses. On a strong dose of DPT, when you start to lose awareness of your body, physical sensations can start to be perceived as visuals.

I hope that makes it clearer. It's hard to put tactile sensations into words.
 
That does make it a lot clearer, so thanks. :)

You must be stronger than I am, I can't stand those body vibrations while tripping, I'll do almost anything to make them stop, though luckily they generally seem much weaker and shorter-lived for me now than they used to be. Interesting that it pushed you to the point of spasms.... Nervewing recently described that from an unexpected 4-HO-EPT breakthrough trip and I wasn't really sure what to make of it, but I guess it's not so bad if it's also something that happens on DPT.

I also love that disintegrating and losing body awareness feeling, it's definitely one of my favorite things about strong indoles. My trips do seem to get quite a bit harder to describe at that point too, so I can relate....
 
Body vibrations usually makes me uncomfortable too, but it's different on DPT. It feels slower and more natural. It has been uncomfortable at times when I've taken low doses, especially the few times I tried it before I had my first breakthrough dose. On a higher dose it's easier to just accept it and not be bothered by it.
 
....Most psychedelics can be very erotic, but not really in the same way as DPT. LSD for example makes me feel like an animal and amplifies sensorial stimulation. DPT on the other hand is sexual in a more abstract, spiritual way. It's puts more focus on the power and submission aspects of sex. If you have any interest in kinky shit, DPT will surely bring it out. I spent much of the trip slipping in and out of a state of ego death, writhing in ecstasy, feeling like I was having sex with the universe....
^^^ I find that DMT and Aya do that to me too...8)

Awesome TR, cj187! :) Reading it made me to plan a DPT trip this weekend - I'll take 1.5-2mg DOC if it arrives on time and in about 8hrs in will start smoking a freebased DPT and MET and prepare about 50mg of DPT for snorting. I'm excited =D

And I love body vibrations on psychedelics, simple tryptamines is the way to go for it....%)
 
The body vibrations differ a bit from those of other psychedelics in that they seem to be tuned to a lower frequency and higher amplitude. There was a short time during this trip where the trembling in my arms became spasms, which started to worry me a bit but it never got too bad and only lasted a few minutes.

Nice report. I have always thought the trembling vibrations were the precursor to any other of the physical senses that are being alerted to something. One time I was on DPT on my deck, eyes closed and a big vibration came over me and I opened my eyes and it morphed into the bird that just flew right by my head. But it started as a vibration. Nothing has me vibrate like DPT. My hands shake if I am taking a pipe hit.

DPT is like my own personal baptism. It is one of the few psychedelics that has me frightened a bit but I've learned to ride it out because right after the peak the fun starts for me as I feel like I came through a rite of passage.
 
Compared to other psychedelics, the fear aspect of DPT seems without consequence. In my experience, it's more akin to the fear of imminent physical danger than to the deep existential despair and self doubt caused by something like LSD or mushrooms.
This gave me a laugh hahah. Thanks for the lengthy report and thoughts. I have 1g of DPT but I haven't gotten around to trying it. Very informative :)
 
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