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Film Donnie Darko

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Web said:
I need someone to sit down and go over the basis of what makes this movie so fucking great with me, because I guess I just don't see it. I mean, it was an entertaining movie, unlike anything I've ever seen... but it just didn't make an impact on me at all. Maybe it's an age thing...

different art resonates in different ways within different people. it sounds naive but i don't think i could completely explain why DD has such a great effect on me without you being me, if you know what i mean.

maybe it's not an age thing. perhaps it's just a 'you're not me' thing :)

alasdair
 
wonderful movie.. as i have nothing more constructive to add to all the wonder comments made about it throughout the debate... i'll just say..the soundtrack appealed as well.

80s... yet not breakfast club cyndi lauper type of shit.
 
My friend got a copy of the soundtrack from the states.
Alot of the songs on it are all instrumental except for Mad World, in which theres a couple of versions of it.

Great CD to listen to if you want to chill out after a come down.
 
Re: Fat guy

^^
I love that cover of mad world...gets me every time.

J@MIE said:
The fat guy leering in the two scenes was actually the FEDS keeping an eye out on Donnie, because of the myserious jet engine that fell into Donnie's house. At least, that is what Richard Kelly said in the commentary.
ahhh...that makes sense, thank you.
 
DigitalDuality said:
wonderful movie.. as i have nothing more constructive to add to all the wonder comments made about it throughout the debate... i'll just say..the soundtrack appealed as well.

80s... yet not breakfast club cyndi lauper type of shit.

very well said:)

this thread has been going for soooo long
 
I just purchased this excellent flick on DVD at Best Buy for $10 US. Pretty good deal, if you ask me! :D
 
the fat guy (in the red tracksuit) is one of the Federal Avatiation Authority guys - he's in a suit in the jet engine removal scene witht the other FAA guys.

Cherita has a chrush on Donnie - hence his name on her notebook. Cherita decides not to deal with the world but instead to live as much as possible inside her head, hence the earmuffs and "chut up!", however she pays attention to what is happening with Donnie because she likes him. She is a great exposition of the 'loner' type - she sees so much because she is invisible. I agree with the statement about her demonstrating screwed up ideals of talent and beauty also. She is rejected because she is different, much as Donnie is.

If you go through the website it explains a lot, particularly the bit about the manipulated living and the manipulated dead (this is in the section that goes through Roberta Sparrow's [grandma Death] book). The basic plot construct is that a tangent universe has been created by the unexplained and unexplainable appearance of the jet engine. All the people in the movie have been dragged into this tangent universe. Two versions of the same universe cannot coexisit for long periods of time - the tangent universe will tear itslef apart and everyone will die ("they are in great danger")- thus the tangent universe must be collapsed in on itself. It is Donnie's job to do this - a role he has been assigned by a higher power (god?). He has been assigned this role due to his natural insight and his ability to accept things like "Frank" just turning up. Having this role gives him supernatural powers, allowing him to see the "fate tunnels" and to perform tasks such as burying the axe into the school mascot (the Mongrel).

The other main characters are the manipulated living or the manipulated dead. The manipulated dead are those who die within the tangent universe (which is the one in the movie). They are Frank and Gretchen. The higher power allows them to heavily influence and alter Donnie's actions. The manipulated living (the teachers, Jim Cunningham, Cherita, the shrink) are influenced by the higher power to act as guides, providing pointers as to what Donnie should do. The manipulated living and dead retain some memories of their time in the tangent universe when they are returned tot he real universe, hence everone waking up and having emotional reactions.

Donnie's fate is to collapse the tangent universe - to do this he needs his portal (the storm) and his vessel (the car), which is why he drives up to Carpathian Ridge. Dr. Monitoff (Noah Wyle) has already explained this to him. To collapse the tangent universe he must travel through time back to the event that caused the tangent to appear - the jet engine appearing from nowhere. The storm/tornado is the tangent universe begining to destroy itself Basically, Donnie collapsing the tangent universe results in the engine being tron off his mother's plane - the engine then becomes the vessel to go back in time, looping the tangent universe back into the real universe.

So why is Donnie laughing at the end, and why does he die? Perhaps he thought it was all a dream and didn't wake up without Frank there. Perhaps he was happy that he had stopped everything and everyone was safe, and was then happy to die. I don't think he necessarily had to die.

All this info comes from the Director's walkthrough and the website, as well as me watching the movie too many times. I could go on all day about little side issues and social commentaries smattered throughout the movie, but I think I've waffled on enough!

:)Smiley
 
^^^Good Explanation!

smileyfish said:
So why is Donnie laughing at the end, and why does he die?

"I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad,
Dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had"
-Mad World

This is one of my all-time favorite movies, only thing that sucks it when you watch it with ditzy people or people with short attention spans, they just dont get it.
 
my $.02...

The hype and semi-cult status of this film is astounding. Donnie Darko seems to really touch the teen angst button and create a character that people want/need to identify with, and in that sense this movie cannot be disounted because in a small way it is a cultural phenomenon. That being said, this movie is decidedly underwhelming. There is some terrific acting (Patrick Swayze), laugh-out-loud-hilarious moments, and an '80s music gimmick, that make most of this movie fun -- but to call this film intelligent or even good storystelling would be a gross mistake. Plot twist after plot twist keeps the movie churning until it leads to a pay-off/climax so small that the whole film seems like a bad X-Files episode (to the point that the writer needs to explain the storyline in a DVD commentary). The movie is entertaining. The movie is funny but anything beyond that is a stretch. A good critique of Donnie Darko was written by Roger Ebert. Mullholland Drive, Brazil, and Blade Runner -- these are cult classics but I cannot see any reason why some people would ever consider Donnie Darko in the same league with these.
 
My musings on donnie darko

The rabbit-suit man had the ability to see what most would call "destiny" and alter it. Essentially, he had the ability to alter reality, to some degree.
He shows this to Donnie, and slowly through his experiences he learns how to alter reality too. And this led to the demise of Donnie. He set Donnie on a course to destruction - he led Donnie to the spot where he would kill Donnie's girlfriend. IF Donnie hadn't noticed "god's path", a more passive and safe way to live in which he would be under god's protection, but ALSO under god's control, he couldn't have deviated from it and would never have ended up at the old lady's house. If the old lady hadn't written the book, Donnie's interest would likely not have been sparked to research these magical acts. Neither the bunny-man nor the old lady wanted Donnie dead I think. He was simply the unfortunate victim of a bunch of coincidences.
Others might argue that few coincidences are purely coincidental, in which case it becomes the intervention of god(s). One set of choices along which he would've travelled had he not known about them, another he is guided to take simply by his own intuition.

And why did the portal lead back to his death? Was it necessary? No, it's a tragedy. Donnie's fatal flaw was curiosity, and by curiosity he was lain waste at the feet of the gods. Or the rabbit man. Or the old lady.

Hmm... it's half-past 4 in the morning. Sleep time.
'nite all.
 
Well, you're in a forum full of people who take drugs. You have a movie that leaves a lot of questions unanswered.
Now the question is: Is it that those with a tendency to philosophise often turn to drugs, or do drugs make one think more about the hows and whys of the world around you?
 
I don't know about you guys, but I always feel like I have a greater affinity with the universe around me when I'm dreaming that I'm going to die. Exciting, but scary. New, I guess. As long as I survive, I'm happy with the idea.
 
Personally I think its more than just a good movie... I think its an amazing movie. I can never place my finger on why this movie pulls me towards it, but I crave watching this film at least once a week. To call this movie a "Bad X-File" is a fucking crime in my eyes. The one thing that amazes me about this movie is the spectrum of different opinions out there on it... Im not gonna try to argue with people about personal opinion, I just wanted to throw out there that A LOT of people think this movie is astounding in so many ways. Remember people, your opinion is not the only one out there and other peoples opinions DO matter.
 
Awesome movie, just watched it today.

I think Donnie is laughing because of the irony in the fact that he has to die to save the person he loves and is kind of just saying oh well that's life. And kind of realising that he is not really dying alone after all.

Can anyone help me with the website. After you type y twice to get through that writing you get to the main menu. I am presuming from here you can get to level one somehow, but it only comes up with level 2 active and level 3 active. Where the hell is level 1?

*Edit* Haha found level 1. I had to enlarge my browser window as it was hidden beneath the bottom bar... That has been confusing me for weeks... Funny shit...

There is an interview here withRichard Kelly the writer/director which answers a lot...
 
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ok, i have to say this.... much like MATRIX RELOADED, when I was left to my own devices to try and explain 'what was going on' in Donnie Darko, it left this movie far more satisfying than the real explanation.

with the commentary given in the DVD, the director tells us that it's about alternate universes... he even tells us at what point everyone's IN the alternate universe... it's BEFORE the jet engine hits the house... not after. the jet engine hitting the house is the result of the alternate universe, not the cause.

but, there's NO INDICATION that something dif't is happening. there's nothig to show that "hey, audience, something different is happening"

I'm sorry, but that's poor story-telling. it's akin to throwing us some suspect in a mystery movie that we've never seen thru-out the movie and we're supposed to accept it.

Even in his interview, Kelly seems to be wishy-washy on what was really goin on... telling us that "it's really up to interpretation" when he's already spelled it out on the DVD ...?

i guess the point of this rant is really me BEGGING anyone who has NOT seen the commentary in the DVD or read interviews with Kelly, PLEASE DON'T ...

the beauty of this movie was that there wasn't a clear-cut answer ... it was an interpretivists' movie. Listening to the commentary and Kelly go on and on then you start going into "story-telling critique" mode and then, argh, you might start to think -- like me -- that the story-telling of this movie was weak.

Please, do not listen to the director's commentary on the DVD... it may ruin the movie for you!

i guess that is all.
 
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