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Stimulants Does using MDMA reduce the effects of Methamphetamine?

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fortuna

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I got a hold of some methamphetamine a couple of weeks ago. My friend and I shared .5g and consumed all of it in one night, well in a span of about 4-5 hours. My friend was basically off the walls while I was not feeling much. We both snorted about three or four medium sized lines each and smoked the rest of it, which was a decent amount. While my friend was horny beyond belief and talking 100 mph and wanting to go for drives in the car and whatnot, I THINK I was feeling it, but definitely nowhere near as high as he was. No, we are not homosexual by the way. It was both of our first times and wanted to try it out, not really knowing what to expect. The difference between him and I at the time is that I had done MDMA two or three days prior to doing the meth. I'm wondering if the MDMA counteracts the meth at all. I actually had taken a half of a 200mg MDMA pill two or three days prior to the meth two nights in a row. So I had taken 100mg of Meth four nights before and again three nights before. I can't really find anything regarding this on BL or on the internet. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Also, as one can imagine, I was and still am a bit disappointed that he was at the level that he was at and I was where I was. So, I'm going to be doing some more this upcoming weekend. I had taken a half of an MDMA pill last night (sunday night), and I plan to use Meth on either Friday or Saturday. Will this impact my next meth experience?

The one thing that I definitely did notice that was because of the meth was that both my friend and I were up from the time we started doing it (around 11pm) until around 3am two days later (up for close to 35 hours) and that entire time, we were both wide awake. Even at 3am, I probably could have stayed up longer, but I was able to fall asleep, so there was no real need to stay awake. So, obviously I did "feel" it, I just didn't really get high really... I don't know how else to describe it. The one other thing I noticed was after taking a few hits, I noticed that my body felt really light, but that soon passed. After the binge was completely over, my friend and I talked about our experiences and I quote him saying, "I don't really have a desire to do it again... It just felt like a really long-lasting, but shitty MDMA high. I'd rather just do MDMA if that is how meth is."

Sorry that my post is a little all over the place, but just trying to NOT forget anything. Thanks for any help!

*side note and question* I was nowhere near as horny as my friend was. It was kind of ridiculous actually just how freakin horny he was... However, when I tried to prep myself for a sexual encounter, it was impossible to get it up... Does this happen? Is this normal?

edit a little later on: I knew I was going to forget something.... Another question I have is regarding smoking meth... We were definitely smoking it the right way without burning it, and we would take long hits which we definitely felt when we inhaled, however, when we exhaled, it looked like almost nothing came out! I've seen a bunch of videos and have seen other people doing it and whenever they did it, huge clouds of smoke came out when they exhaled. We would light our pipes, swirl the junk around at the bottom a little and wait for the vapor to circulate, then take our hits. Like I said before, we definitely felt the intake of the hits, but almost nothing visible came out. A couple of times we did see a faint cloud come out when we exhaled, but nowhere near what I've seen come out of other peoples' mouths who have just took their hits. What could be the problem?
 
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Well both Methamphetamine and MDMA deplete dopamine receptors in your brain which is what naturally produces happiness and excitement, so in doing MDMA a couple days before you tried the meth your depleted your dopamine transmitters and 4 to 3 nights in between it wasn't enough time for them to heal so when you did meth your dopamine supply was super low probably causing the high not to feel as good as it's supposed to. anyways that's my guess after a few years of using Meth.
 
And as for the smoking part I used to have the same thing happen, still does occasionally. Don't really know what the cause would be. Ive kind of got it down to perfection but its all about the swirl, I find slowly swirling the bowl while taking your hit slow helps, sometimes if I go to fast it doesn't produce as much vapor. Hah and for the Horny question, ive never had a problem getting it up, but keeping it up was a whole different situation. Gotta love meth....
 
Co2will, Thanks for the input. One thing in response to your smoking point... how long should I be holding the flame to the bowl? Cuz last time, I held it there for quite a while (still without burning it), but it was on for a really long time. How long should I let the vapor swirl around before hitting it? Should the bowl be completely foggy so you can't see through it at all? Rough time estimates would be greatly appreciated.
 
Yeah mag and dxm will help. And yes meth and MDMA indeed do have cross tolerance. And erectile dysfunction (ed) is a common side effect of amphetamines, usually just makes me numb so I can fuck for hours but too much or mixed with other stuff and the ED stops me.

Edit: And one more thing why do you link to drugs-forum? that website is god awful...
 
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I only keep the flame on usually about 10 seconds but not much longer. And before I take my hit I kinda let the liquid slide from side to side at least once or twice to get a good motion and the vapor going. And yes your bowl will get foggy.
 
If you don't use any substance that depletes dopamine and take some magnesium, dxm and give it probably a week or two you should be golden, depending on how often you have use MDMA.
 
Where did I link to drugs-forum?? Couple other questions... I think I got the mag down, but what about the dxm? Should I just take the recommended "cough suppressant dose" of 20 mg every 4 hours? Or should I be like doubling or tripling the dose? The other question is back to the smoking question again... Do I wait until the pipe is completely foggy so you can't see through it then smoke it? Or smoke it just as the vapors are swirling but you can still see through it? Or am I just overthinking it? lol
 
To the person who I believed started this thread, in regards to doing MDMA a few days before doing meth and the meth not being as effective.. And then talking about doing more meth, and learning how to smoke: I just want you to know you are heading down a dangerous, depressing road that will lead to misery.
I'll try to be brief. I used MDMA, and still occasionally do, since I was 19. Absolutely loved it 1st time doing at a friends house. Soon after that I hit up my first rave, loved it. Took some pills and boy oh boy, I was hooked on E and raves. Looking back now, I'm 30 and taken so many E pills and gone to so many raves, and I still do. But that first rave, I am pretty sure it wasn't E, and if it was, it was definitely cut with meth. It took me a long time to realize what the difference is between the two substances, they definitely are similar and different in their own respects. When I get a hold of some serious pure Molly or pills with no other Chems, I can tell you, I would be floored. I want to sit down when on good MDMA. Not walk around, not dance, literally sit the fuck down 95% of the time. E pills cut with meth, you'll know. Those are the ones I fell in love with without realizing it. That's right, I've been raving so long and thinking I get the bombest best e pills, they're clean etc. bullshit. Eventually whatever good supply of real MDMA your getting, will run out. That batch will be gone and another one will come that can be completely faked pills based off the same color and logo but with other substances like Methylone. You can get pills that are auper speedy or prolly all speed meth bombs, much like the one I got at my first rave and will never ever forget how much fun it was. So if you think About it, I been raving for roughly 11.5 years. Almost every year there are more festivals, more clubs. More parties, more pills, with parties lasting on average 2-3 days. Even knowing after researching you shouldn't do E days in a row, because of depleted chemicals in your brain. I still do it. So do most of my friends that are in that scene. You gotta factor per year where I'm at, I bet there are At least average 6-8 big fests per year. I can't stop going to them. I love the music, the drugs, the sluttyy looking girls who actually I may talk to, the lightshows, the pure insanity of thousands of people doing the same exact thing as you without passing judgement. Let's see most amount of pills done in one night at a rave? 6-8 and that was fucking crazy, but when my tolerance was just getting too high. Probably good average was 5 pills every 3 months for I would say a good 8 years straight.

But what am I getting at exactly ?

I was able to somehow hold my shit together while raving and only doing what I thought was MDMA and weed. Had a comfy job, nice girlfriend and we were engaged at one point, had lots of money and friends, was able to party sporadically without anyone giving me shit.

This all changed about 10 months ago. September 2013 my gf and I split, after being together for 10 years. Not only did I lose someone I loved about, but I lost a best friend; because she requested me to quit drugs, quit e, quit raves; grow up , have a family.. But I choose the wrong choice. I let my addictions to MDMA, marijuana for 10 years + and cocaine for a 2 year stint, I decided id rather go the harder shittier route. She partied too, and first 3 years were great. That changed when my selfishness said I wanted a 3 sum with another girl. Her rules: we'd have to be in a open relationship. And one day I came home from work and said fuck it, let's do it. Never the same after. Everything became tucked. She hated me from that day on. She ended up almost dying in a DUI soon after that. Somehow was fine, I paid for her DUI, lawyer, classes, fees, paid for her to finish school. Then she got mad at me for not quitting weed, I weren't 3 days sober then are a weed brownie. I was honest with her. Her revenge? She disappears for a day, I get a call from her at work and she is on one hell of a acid trip. To be brief: while on 3 hits of acid already, she decided to eat a entire vile of acid. When she did come to her parents house, she was seeing demons. Devils, speaking in tongues. She told me she was fucking some dude from New York the night of the DUI (who's keys were in my appt. and I never knew whose). She'd go to sleep with me and wake up still frying. 3 days straight frying balls, in front of her family, with syblings and young kids, pissed herself in front of everyone, was definitely possessed by a demon and eventually sent to hospital to bring her down. Now that I think about it, she was high in LSD 3 days straight, and that was when she finally came home. She was gone 2 days before that. So that's probably a solid 4-5 days stuck in the twilight horror zone. I still think about to this day that acid trip from hell. This is all besides the point but still important,
We began to hate each other, my drug habit, her DUI and seeing a dude. Lived a unhealthy life doing constant drugs, lots of ecstasy, going up coming downs, nitrous oxide, and it all led to horrible fights between the two of us. I would be a yeller, verbal abuser; she would be too but would also beat the shit out of me. I ended up cheating on her, got caught, got my ass whooped and got crazy psychological mind fucking games she would do to me. Or humiliate and make me feel so bad that I would be sitting in a dark backroom for hours crying hysterically all alone, while she just say there and didn't give a fuck.

When she left me for another woman, one that I had let live with us during her hard times, completely ruined me. She is somewhat drug free now. But one time when we were still together I watched her smoke meth with one friend. Only one time, I had never ever seem it before. It was bizarre, weird, yet it intrigued me.. They only did a couple hits in front of me and the rest of the night they isolated themselves away from me since I wasn't doing it..

Just watching them smoke that meth pipe de-sensitized me. When she left me for someone else, I decided I didn't care anymore about myself and chose the shittier path once again,

I choose meth. Ended up smoking it with a girl I had been cheating on her with. I knew she did it. Dove in. I thought "I got this". Nope. I remember after taking one-3 hits my first time, how extraordinary similar meth is to ecstasy. I was like no way. This is so much fun it's like I'm rolling without all the hallucinating lights but still focused and able to get things done. I remember that day I had withdrawals from those few hits that night. Sweating, being hot and cold at the same time. From just that one time of meth, it went from one day a week, to weekend, to Thursday-Sunday, eventually everyday. MDMA =no Boner coke=no boner meth = pretty consistent but at moments inconsistent boners and always extremely horny. So my story ? Raved on MDMA for a long time. Coke head too. Now I'm a tweeker for the last 10 months and even though I continue to do it, I fucking hate it so much and wish I never tried it ever, not even in e pills. That's whAts got me here anyways. Now my life is ridiculous. All I want is meth. Other drugs don't cut it anymore, just more meth. Quit my job, ended up in the ER 4 times during the 1st 2 months. I'm a fucking loser, a addict, I can't quit, I want to but I don't want to , lost tons of weight, lost most of my friends, respect from family, people treat me like I got Lepurcy.

I'm gonna wrap it up. OP. Be fucking careful on your downward trip to hell with meth. It's made by the devil, pure evil, more addictive than I could imagine. I got this! Haha nope, it's got you before you know it, you keep hitting that pookie and before you know it, you'll be a addict, smoking everyday, less money, less friends, lesser of a life. Don't even start. It's amazing how difficult it is for me to quit. 3-5 days max if I really try. Smashed my pipes, countless times. Flushed my shit a bunch , swore I never do it again, yet here we are and I'm about to go take another hit after I finish this posting. Be scared. Meth psychosis? I thought was a joke oh wait , stay up 3 days straight, hear weird noises, shadow people , extreme paranoia like the CIA and FBI are follows your every movement, having something grab your leg from under the bed and screaming like a girl while your grandparents are sleeping in the other room. Meth is some fun stuff. Nah, it isn't. I regret it more and more by the second. Latest story: I know people say meth bugs aren't real. People just tripping and hallucinating. Hahaha maybe some but more terrifying ? The fact that the more meth I do, the more insects are invading my life. Flies coming up my sink, Ants everywhere in backyard, constantly finding the same looking spiders in my place. Oh and my cat died recently (22 yrs old). 2 weeks before she passed we found out she had fleas. I would try to pick the fleas out her coat, I feel so bad but they chewed her up and I had to put her down since she couldn't walk anymore from old age. Guess what ? Now that she's gone the fleas are after me, I find them all over my legs still. Bites all sorts of bites. Tons of showers, they still come back. Big man sprayed my grandparents house. They are still there. My grandmother once commented that for some reason, the fleas like me more than anyone else. And that the biggest ones she has seen are in my bedroom. This isn't hallucinations at all, this is really literally stuff happening to me. And of doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it all has to do with meth

To the op, I highly suggest you to re-consider this path. 10 months is jack shit in time I've done meth and yet seemingly still ruined my life. Keep sucking that glass Dick and you'll be right there guaranteed, oh ya, you got this right? No one does

And since I almost guaruntee you still will find a reason to try smoking regardless of my story my advice is this 1) hold lighter 1" under bowl, don't touch it, have damp towel to wipe after hits. Don't torch the bowl. Don't overpack, melt it all the way and blow that first hit out.
2) don't mix any different batches together in the same bowl
3) just don't do it, I can't stop,you won't either. Re-consider, get out early.

Not joking the bugs are here. Just saw and felt a flea. And I'm not at my grandparents house I'm at my parents. And I found one in the car. They follow me anywhere and everywhere. They don't stop.

Reconsider smoking meth, seriously straight the fuck up
 
i didn't read the whole thread but here's what i gotta say.

if you've gone through half a gram of meth in one night it probably wasn't good. with no tolerance 1g (of my own, pure meth) lasted over a week at the beginning, and i even shared some of it with friends. so i didn't do the whole gram myself but still i was awake over a week.

i don't know if mdma is cross tolerant with meth, but i can say that when you take them both at a time, mdma works fine on meth (if you got enough meth-tolerance and no tolerance to mdma). if you got no tolerance to meth the meth will overpower the mdma.
 
Trippingballz said:
Flies coming up my sink, Ants everywhere in backyard, constantly finding the same looking spiders in my place. Oh and my cat died recently (22 yrs old). 2 weeks before she passed we found out she had fleas. I would try to pick the fleas out her coat, I feel so bad but they chewed her up and I had to put her down since she couldn't walk anymore from old age. Guess what ? Now that she's gone the fleas are after me, I find them all over my legs still. Bites all sorts of bites. Tons of showers, they still come back. Big man sprayed my grandparents house.


Not joking the bugs are here. Just saw and felt a flea. And I'm not at my grandparents house I'm at my parents. And I found one in the car. They follow me anywhere and everywhere. They don't stop.

Reconsider smoking meth, seriously straight the fuck up
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Um, that post, esp the paragraph I quoted should be taken into consideration. the epitome of meth psychosis.
 
I think that MDMA and meth have somewhat of a cross-tolerance, but MDMA releases large amounts of serotonin and smaller amounts of dopamine. Meth is the other way around so you should not have that high of a tolerance to it. Most likely you are not smoking correctly.

It takes a while to really get it down, but when you get a good hit you will see what it really feels like. Also you could try snorting it as well to make sure you are getting it in your system properly.
 
I think some cross tolerance is to be expected, both release 5-HT/DA/NE (at different ratios, but still), so any changes in the brain resulting in tolerance for one, will also result in some tolerance for the other.
 
Woahhhh Trippingballz, slow down a bit... I really appreciate all your info, but if you've seen my previous OP before this one, I had mentioned that meth is EXTREMELY, no, IMPOSSIBLY hard to find where I am from. (I've been looking for it on the street very long and very hard to absolutely no avail) These two times I am getting it, it's because my friend's friend who lives 5 states away (roughly a 12 hour drive) is coming to see us and is bringing another small amount with him. I am only doing it a second time because 1. He's coming to visit again and 2. I was disappointed with the way the first session went (as explained in this OP). Even if I became addicted to it, I couldn't just hop in the car and drive 10 minutes to pick up... Another thing, as much as I appreciate your story, you don't really need to lecture me about where drugs can lead your life... I was a heroin addict for the last 4-5 years and have seen the lowest of low and never want to go back there again. Not to mention that I am more of a downer lover than an upper lover and really loved my heroin (at the time). I now know my limits with drugs and when to call it quits.

Mastersofine - I actually said in my OP that during the course of the night, my friend and I snorted between 3 and 4 lines each in combination with smoking it... And still after consuming all that in those two different ROA's, like I said before, my friend was off the walls (but he hadn't done MDMA for about a month), whereas I was feeling almost no high (but I had taken MDMA 3 and 4 days before doing the meth).
 
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fortuna said:
Woahhhh Trippingballz, slow down a bit... I really appreciate all your info, but if you've seen my previous OP before this one, I had mentioned that meth is EXTREMELY, no, IMPOSSIBLY hard to find where I am from. (I've been looking for it on the street very long and very hard to absolutely no avail) These two times I am getting it, it's because my friend's friend who lives 5 states away (roughly a 12 hour drive) is coming to see us and is bringing another small amount with him. I am only doing it a second time because 1. He's coming to visit again and 2. I was disappointed with the way the first session went (as explained in this OP). Even if I became addicted to it, I couldn't just hop in the car and drive 10 minutes to pick up... Another thing, as much as I appreciate your story, you don't really need to lecture me about where drugs can lead your life... I was a heroin addict for the last 4-5 years and have seen the lowest of low and never want to go back there again. Not to mention that I am more of a downer lover than an upper lover and really loved my heroin (at the time). I now know my limits with drugs and when to call it quits.

Mastersofine - I actually said in my OP that during the course of the night, my friend and I snorted between 3 and 4 lines each in combination with smoking it... And still after consuming all that in those two different ROA's, like I said before, my friend was off the walls (but he hadn't done MDMA for about a month), whereas I was feeling almost no high (but I had taken MDMA 3 and 4 days before doing the meth).
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So sorry for lecturing you about drugs then. You can take something from it, or nothing at all. Just bc it's hard for you to get right now, doesn't mean in the future you might have a few different people who do have it on a consistent bases and even deliver to you.

Honestly, I just wish you would not smoke M. At instances it can seem fun, but before you know it you can develop a addction pretty easy. Not trying to lecture you, just telling you to be careful, you're playing with fire..

If I remember right 9/10 people that try meth, end up addicted

And if I also remember right, you shouldn't be mixing MDMA and meth together, I believe it's harder in your heart overall

Hope you don't end up the road I'm on bro. Good luck peace
 
These meth threads with the paranoid ramblings should be required reading for anyone considering going down that road. Yikes.
 
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These meth threads with the paranoid ramblings should be required reading for anyone considering going down that road. Yikes.
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Thanks Dawglaw, paranoid ramblings? If that's my contribution to the forum then maybe I should cancel my account. Seems like peeps automatically just don't like me. That's fine if if helps you guys out I'll peace out soon then
 
I'm outta here. Gonna cancel ny account. Seems like a lot of people think I'm just a paranoid rambling asshole; and from s
What tell my posts are so long and boring that people avoid or don't read them

You guys have a good one I wish you all luck, in whatever journey or substance your struggling sigh

Peace!
-TrippingballZ
 
Trippingballz you had many excellent points in your post and I thought it was very strong of you to post in detail of what obviously is a very tough and personal time in your life. I am almost positive that Dawglaw didn't mean to come off as harshly as what you perceived his post to be.

Please don't go.
 
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