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Does THC stay permanently active after heating one time?

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Hello,

I would like to know if THC stays active after heating but once? Reason I doubt this is because I once trapped some smoke in a bag and waited till is cooled down till it turned invisible (why did it turn invisible? Was it because it lost it's heat or density?). That said, I would like to know if only one time of heating the plant is all that is necessary for it to stay active and get you high.
 
So how do we activate it? Why does it only work only when we heat it? And does it stay permanently (psycho)active after only heating it once?
 
THC is an active chemical, when you heat it you are releasing it from the plant material, along with tons of other cannibinoids
 
Warped Reality said:
Ever heard of people eating it...?
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Yeah, that also requires it to be heated. Whether you make some firecrackers in the microwave or a batch of cakes in the oven. It requires heat.

I've only ever met one person who believed eating just buds with no cooking or anything gort him high. Same kinda guy who only buys outpess pills because they are definately not bunk. ;)
 
you can just eat buds and get high you would need a hell of a lot and an iron stomach
 
Yeah, that also requires it to be heated. Whether you make some firecrackers in the microwave or a batch of cakes in the oven. It requires heat.
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That's because the cooking mixes the cannaboids in with the fats of the food (cannaboids are fat soluble). So your body can absorb them easily.

You can just as easily mix it with something cold & it'll work just as well.
 
Feste said:
That's because the cooking mixes the cannaboids in with the fats of the food (cannaboids are fat soluble). So your body can absorb them easily.

You can just as easily mix it with something cold & it'll work just as well.
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it would just take longer. Heat's a catalyst with regards to ingesting marijuana, nothing more.
 
what is the max temp before activated thc is oxidized in to a chem which no longer gets you high? In other words, what temperature is required for thc to activate? And at what temperature does the activated thc then break down again in to a molecule which is no longer psychoactive?
 
hmmm. i am pretty sure the heat works to decarboxylate the thc. Cannabis produces thc that has a COOH attached to the molecule and is in acid form, this is not very active. Heat breaks that COOH off making it substantially more active. So heat is important for more than just turning the cannabinoids into a vapor to be inhaled.

However i dont think you can just heat the bud a bit and eat it to get high. U need some sort of lipid/fat. I have heard many say that black hash (likely pressed and handled in a way that could decarboxylate the thc) is active when eaten without additional preparation. I have not done this so i cannot verify.
 
What I am asking is when the molecule is activated by heat (as it cannot be possible to get you high by just eating it raw) how long does it take to become inactive by cooling? What is the temperature for the active THC to diminish into a non-active substance once again?
 
What I am asking is when the molecule is activated by heat (as it cannot be possible to get you high by just eating it raw)
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It doesn't get you high by straight eating it because it needs to be absorbed into fats. It's that fat, not the heat, that's important.
 
I'm pretty sure cannabinoids as a whole(well, the ones with 21 carbon atoms anyway) are present in living tissue/cells as a carboxylic acid form and needs decarboxylation before they show any significant activity in man. This is usually done via heat but it is certainly not the only way.

And nothing stays "permanently" active btw. All organic compounds are subject to decomposition etc.
 
Hi guys,

I'm trying to get an idea for how THC can remain active after it is cooled down such as in cannabutter. Does it need to be heated again in order to be active or is it true that it can be absorbed in fats and remain active once it is attached to fat molecules like Feste said above?
 
well once the COOH is cleaved from the molecule its gone for good. Cannabutter stays active because the decarboxylated THC and other goodies are in a fat solution therefore stabilizing and preserving your actives...

So no u do not need to reheat cannabis preparations. Actually id strongly recommend against it as it will likely result in degrading your actives.

Also it really is the fat and the heat that make ur cannabis treats work. You could soak bud in some lipid or alcohol in the cold to some degree of success but it will be carboxylated thc (not very active at all!) and take forever, so for all intensive purposes it really doesnt work well in practice.

Where are our CD drug nerds? Im pretty surprised at the lack of informed responses and similar topics were covered a few times recently. I mean no offense to posters but this is like cannabis info 101 material as far as understanding what it takes to intoxicate oneself with cannabis.
 
Feste said:
That's because the cooking mixes the cannaboids in with the fats of the food (cannaboids are fat soluble). So your body can absorb them easily.

You can just as easily mix it with something cold & it'll work just as well.
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Oh damn, learn something new every day :)
 
decarboxylation
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happens during the curing process. bluelight and other internet forums have significantly misinterpreted articles about it--to the point where people are putting their weed in the oven before making butter with it.

cured weed does not need to be "heated" to activate the thc. if you wanna smoke it, you need to heat it to get it in your lungs.

the reason it does not work well when you eat it raw is the same reason you cannot survive off of grass if you get lost in the woods: your stomach cant break it down well enough.
 
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