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Does IQ or the measure of "synapses" in the brain affect Drug sensitivity?

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The reason I ask, because the brain gets "tighter" not "heavier" when that muscle is worked through nerd stuff. So there isn't "more" brain for a drug to work on, but a "differently structered" brain to fiddle with. What kind of effect if any, does this phenomena have on the desirable actions of a substance?
 
There's gonna be the same amount of neurotransmitters still, and if the brain gets 'smaller' then it doesn't necessarily mean receptors will be dowongraded. I dont even know if the brain actually 'tightens' at all or that much when you use it.
 
It shrinks and becomes "more dense" and that's just it! More synapses = more axons/neurotransmitters = more widespread brain bioactivity = more widespred but thinned out due to breaking off at multiple pathways...


It comes on way sooner...can never hit you hard...and a bad "come down"/hangover is non-existant. All in theory, more pathways would require more work for action to take place on receptors?
 
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Interesting idea...

Your post above is confusing me... are you saying shrinking would create more synapses or less?

I don't get how the drug would come on soon either; how fast a drug works has to do with bioavailability and how quickly it crosses the blood-brain-barrier. And why would the come down/hangover go away?
 
this is not a valid idea as most euphoria producing recreational drugs act primarily on the more primitive (highly conserved through out evolution) parts of the brain that have little or nothing to do with the abstract concept of IQ.

the limbic system is important for the euphoric drugs, not the cortex which is the location of the processing areas responsible for IQ, and higher consciousness.

brain <> muscle
it doesn't shrink or become more dense with increased intelligence, studies on the brains of people with genius showed that the overall brain morphology and size was the same as us mortals.
I personally think a lot of intelligence has to do with how things are wired and not the number of connections, IQ really measures the ability to consider abstract ideas and interconnect these concepts, and goes hand in hand with autistic spectrum disorders, it is notable throughout history how many geniuses have strange foibles and quirks almost as if they make connections and attach importance to things that ordinary mortals ignore, even if the connection is as world changing the link between spacetime and gravity or the need to climb the highest building in every town.
 
Mr Blonde said:
Interesting idea...

Your post above is confusing me... are you saying shrinking would create more synapses or less?

you and me both, mate :\
 
Well, I have an above average IQ and it usually takes above average doses to get off properly, but I think that has more to do with my body weight of 285 lbs.
 
A good point to make would be that we don't actually know if we gain this additional brain tissue, including all the extra synapses and activity, because of the intellectual behavior exhibited during life or whether it's because those born with those types of brains choose those behaviors. It might also be worth pointing out that we measure a person's intelligence based on the ability to experience life in a varying range of detailed complexity. The mentally challenged near the lower end and the genius abiding in at the top. Now whether this would have a bearing on how detailed or incredible an individual's psychedelic experience I believe is the wrong question. Each person experiences life in a degree of complexity only relative to itself.

As Huxley says, "We're all island universes" and each perspective is only worth aesthetic value. Basically each person wagers other's complexity only according to it's relation to it's own. So is this question even valid? I understand what's it asking to know, but I don't think we're asking it the right way. I think someone could quickly say, "Yes, the smarter you are, the more complex your brain, the more extraordinary your trips will be." but I think this is little more than saying, "The more you've got to work with the more you've got to work with." Just seems redundant or maybe just obvious. Fascinating topic.

With that said... I wonder what kind of trip Hawking would have! I bet it would rule.
 
as to the above you may process the trip with more 'tools' or insight, but the trip in a non-subjective manner if we can extract it like a movie of sorts would likely not be any better or worse due to IQ

also if you wanted to go that route than you'd think highly creative people over simply high IQ would have a 'better' trip potential

though just like high IQ or highly creative people have insights that others do not in everyday existence indeed in relation to psychelic scenarios indeed they may garner more from such, but the intrinsic trip itself if again it can be extracted may not be that distinguished

the same can be said of a meditative'type experience, which say working on an artistic piece (music, poetry, painting et al) can be for some

anyway i certainly know that individuals who have both an exceptionally high IQ and high "creative IQ" certainly see the world in a different manner =D
 
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