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Does Heroin ever make you see demons?

nicksndimes

nicksndimes

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Ok, I know this sounds crazy, but there have been times when I felt like I was not alone when I was doing dope. I mean subtle things made me think there may be a ghost in my presence that was pissed that I was doing the drugs or something. The reason I thought there was something there was that every time I would call the presence out, they would make a noise or make something fall, almost to show me that they were there. I really am not a big believer in that stuff and I know that my judgement was skewed because I was high, so those few times that may have been the case.

But...a few weeks ago on my way back home from Detroit, I was driving down the road and I kept seeing something flying past the car. Sometimes it was on my side, sometimes it was on the passenger side, but it was big and black and definately not a bird. It was dark out, but I kept noticing it and my girlfriend said she did too. Right at that moment, the black figure flew right up the hood of the car, over the dashboard, and up over the car and we seen it at the exact same time and were both freaked right the fuck out. I had to pull over because it scared the shit out of me and we stopped and talked about it for a minute. It looked like it was wearing a black cloak with a hood and didn't have a face, it was really freaky.

I swear I am not making this up, Has anybody else had a similar experience?
 
IMO its all thoughts in your head
when you fuck with your brain chemistry your mind can and does play games with ya
 
I dunno what to say about this. I never had anything like you described while nodding off on opiates. Occasionally I'd jump while dozing but other than that I can't say anything like this ever happened from the drugs.

You're not taking speed or staying awake a lot? I really don't know man, sounds freaky though.
 
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i only had intense colorful animated hallucinations on heroin, back when i first started getting a tolerance to some, killer, black tar in texas.

i was hallucinating last night on pods and percs, i was seeing black smokey circles float by quickly, and flashes of white mist. i was also very sleep deprived and stres!sed.

opiates can deprive you of rem sleep, which can cause you to in so many words, snap in and our of rem in an instant. one way to know if this happening, is when you do go to fall asleep, you will try to go right into rem. when this happens to me, i get flashes of dreams that cause me to jump awake.

if you feel you must continue abusing heroin, try using 4-5 hours before going to bed.
 
When I try to go to sleep on opiates I always think there is somebody sitting beside me and talking to me. Sometimes its a couple friends just hanging out in my room. When I suddenly realize I'm alone I wake up in a panic.

When I was doing a fair amount of oxycodone I saw stuff in the corner of my eye the same way I would if I was on speed.

The side effects I get from opiates definitely outweigh the positives.
 
i was hallucinating last night on pods and percs, i was seeing black smokey circles float by quickly, and flashes of white mist. i was also very sleep deprived and stres!sed.
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I recall vividly one time when I took a couple of percs before work I saw that same white mist. It never really happened since then, but also I don't think I used oxycodone more than a handful of times before moving on to kratom and poppies.

You make a good point about rem sleep deprivation. My sleep cycle was shit when I used.
 
I have never taken heroin but i have taken most other common opiates and have been addicted to oxycodone, morphine, hydromorphone and fentanyl. I have never experienced hallucinations on opiates before except one time during a demerol binge in which i was taking way too much. But demerol is toxic and is known to cause hallucinations so this has nothing to do with opiates really. If anything opiates make me drearily sane almost too sane in a way to the point where i can become plain fucking boring. This is weird since i suffer from bipolar disorder with a tad of psychosis.

I would say that the heroin in some odd way could be bringing out some underlying mental disorder. There is also the possibility of the heroin being "bad" in some way either through poor manufacturing or some cut. Also just because your g/f saw what you saw means nothing really. I would say either that you percieved that she saw what you saw or you both had the same gear and it was bad. Then there is the possibility of suggestibility on your part towards her aka mass hysteria.

I have never seen demons or god or anything resembling a spirit on any drug and this includes drugs known for causing such experiences such as dissociatives (nitrous, DXM, ketamine and PCP), psychedelics like LSD, LSA and magic mushrooms as well as salvia. But this is probably due to my own beliefs that such things do not exist more then the effects of the drugs themselves.

I have snapped out of a few nods and though i have heard something in the house or whatever but this is just dreaming and tends to happen when i take drugs that add to the nod such as anti-cholinergics, benzos, gabapentin and lyrica.

It may not be a bad idea to talk to a doctor or some health proffesional about getting off heroin and seing if you experience this without heroin or any other drug. Taking any drug makes it hard to diagnose any kind of mental disorder. But again this could very well be nothing at all.

I would not suggest cold turkying off the heroin as this can cause hallucinations in some people that are suseptible to it. It has happened to me during severe withdrawal but it is most likely a result of being majorly sleep deprived and taking way too many sedatives such as large doses of anti-nausea drugs like dimenhydrinate, methotrimeprazine, benzos as well as anti-psychotics. One thing i notice is that colors seem off in a way during withdrawal. I can't explain it but it's almost like a bad psychedelic that sucks ass! Not to mention the fucking nightmares i get during withdrawal that seem very real and i have on occasion have thought they where real for up to a few hours upon waking.
 
^^^ That could be a possibility. I never thought on that until you mentioned it but i have heard of heroin being cut with diphenhydramine in certain places. I know sweet fuck all about what they cut smack with in the US to be honest except what ive read in books but thats outdated.

Someone like Lacey K would be good to shed some light on this maybe.
 
ive seen opiates make people see shit. one time i thought a monster was there. but i was w/d-ing off oxy but nodding off hydro(sorta oxymoron i know, just go with it). it was wierd i still had anxiety from WD. but that was 2 yrs ago, never seen it again. occasionally if i dose a little too high, i think im talking with friends and shit.

drugs mess with your mind. is that really surprising?
 
I'm surprised that people think they are talking with friends and shit on just opiates alone. Diphenhydramine did that to me by itself (in say 100mg dose w/ no tolerance) and was more likely to occur with opiates. But I don't think I experienced that with opiates alone.

Everyone is different though. *shrug*
 
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