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Does anyone really die from MDMA?

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I know that there are always reports in the media about so-called ecstasy deaths, but how many of them are really from MDMA?
I guess what I'm referring to is: Has anyone ever died from one dose (~100mg) of pure MDMA, without dancing themselves to death (death by overheating) or drinking themselves to death (ovehydration) or combinations with other drugs. Would Anna Wood have survived if she didn't drink so much? Would people who died from overheating be here still if they had sat down and chilled out?
Among my friends (who are all very responsible users, and tend not to dance much on E) we've never even seen so much as a sniffle caused by this drug. The LD50 trials in rodents show that this drug is not any more deadly than many OTC medications.
I'm really interested to know if MDMA is actually deadly at all at a reasonable dose & under the right conditions. If you know of an E death from allergy or inability to metabolise the drug, please post some info here.
 
hmmm, I wish I could be more of an authority on the issue but I simply dont have the knoledge. I am sure jb and BigTrancer etc will add a bit of useful info.
Anyway, as far as I know, there has never been an MDMA death from a single dose, where MDMA was the cause of the death. If you have a look at all the marijuana web sites, there claim to fame if you will, is that there has never been a death related to strictly marijuana. I am not sure about MDMA, but I get the impression that there HAS been a death or two, but I really dont know. Sorry I couldnt be of more help
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LD50 106 mg/kg or approximately 6,000 mg. Six grams!
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You have a long way to go from 100mg to 6000mg!
It would be like having 100 60mg E's. AYYYYYYYYYYYY!
 
Getting your hands on 6000mg of pure MDMA wouldn't be easy for most people either... But if anyone does lemme know!
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There's also the possiblity of an allergic reaction to the stuff, but I don't have any info so i'll shut up before i get myself into trouble...
Btw, if anyone has 6000mg of pure mdma I'd be willing to see if you can die from it... as long as the period of consumption is a couple of years
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I think i read on some site a little while back that some ppl have a very rare condition, where the enzyme that processes MDMA, is non-existant or abnormal and therefore the MDMA then absorbed is much more toxic and can possibly be lethal.
Now don't quote me on this, especially the last bit, but i don't think iam too far off the mark
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On the subject on whether there have been deaths from MDMA consumption only, where no other extrapolating factors are involved, iam also unsure. Hehe, not much use am i
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But needless to say the odds of it happening to you would be ridiculously high. If only the elder generation which looks upon Ecstacy (in it's true form) could understand this
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Rather then being spoon-fed, misrepresented and sensationaled bullshit from you know who!!
As Fox Mulder once said "The truth is out there"
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Iam sure your not the only one jealous of your g/f!!
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You raise 2 very good points Matzuber. Firstly it does vary amongst many ppl. Could explain why some big guys could roll harder then a small girl, with the same amount consumed. Although this is not the norm, it isn't uncommon either.
The second point is you say first time users should start off low. I agree entirely. It may sound obvious, but nonetheless very important. I would never let any first time user take more then half (even if it was relatively weak). You just never know, it may be that person who has an abnormality with this particular enzyme.
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u guys r correct about the enzyme deficiency problem. But the thing is it is not exclusive to MDMA, many drugs and toxins could harm such a person.
So in this respect it is the person who is the prob and not the drug; people with such deficiency should, u would have thought, discovered this problem earlier but unfortunately not always do. The figures were on dancesafe somewhere, but the number of people with the problem to the extent that MDMA, AND OTHER drugs would be lethal is extremely low.
 
I dunno...I took 2 the first time I went. They were nto overly strong, but they were pure caps in '96. I believe it was definately worth while, so I generally say that a first tiemer should have a whole pill. Because every subsequent time you do it, it is rarely as good as that first time, even with 150mg of pure MDMA. The chances of getting a hige dose of MDMA is very low anyway, and if the dseficiency were as high as 1 in 10 then the amount of people dying from E would be huge. say 10000 pills in a weekend, that would be 1000 dead per weekend. Pretty big number.
A penny for your thoughts?
DB
 
-i read this before i tried my first E some years ago, things may have changed-
There has been some deaths caused by an allergic reaction ( as mentioned in previous posts ) and this allergic reaction is said to be related to ppl who are allergic to peanuts or any form of nuts.
Now dun quote me on this as it has been a long time, go haf a look at ecstacy.org for more info.
But an actress in singapore died from an allergic reaction to an E that she took. Whatever was in the pill considering that the Es in Singapore comes from Thailand.
 
Hey brisgirl.
What exactly did Anna Wood did of, was it the MDMA, the other shit that can be but in an “E” like PMA, or drinking 2 much or 2 little. I’m keep to find out coz my gf that doesn’t roll, read the Anna Wood story and = telling greenmitsa about it when he’s talking up the use of E’s to her.
GoNeGoOsE.
If “There has been some deaths caused by an allergic reaction (as mentioned in previous posts ) and this allergic reaction is said to be related to ppl who are allergic to peanuts or any form of nuts”.
Then why does.
My cousin who is allergic to nuts. He has to carry around a adrenaline (sp??) injection with him coz if eg Mac Donald’s fucks up and puts a Big Mac bun (with those seeds on top) on top of his cheese burger (no seeds) his face/neck swell up and he cant breath. Yet he roll’s ever weekend about 2 pills.
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I heard that Anna Wood died because she drank too much water.
Apparently (and this is just what I have heard, so if anyone knows better please correct me!) Anna Wood didn't have a very good reaction to her pill. Her friends got scared and didn't know what to do. Instead of taking her to the hospital (they were too scared) they just kept feeding her water. However, she had no way of getting rid of all this water they were feeding her so in effect she drowned.
Anyway, that is what I heard, but as I said, I could be way off the mark. Please correct me if I am wrong!
 
I heard that Anna Wood died because she drank too much water.
Apparently (and this is just what I have heard, so if anyone knows better please correct me!) Anna Wood didn't have a very good reaction to her pill. Her friends got scared and didn't know what to do. Instead of taking her to the hospital (they were too scared) they just kept feeding her water. However, she had no way of getting rid of all this water they were feeding her so in effect she drowned.
Anyway, that is what I heard, but as I said, I could be way off the mark. Please correct me if I am wrong!
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Anna wood died of water intoxication. And I've never heard of a worse way to go. I don't remember the exact story but i remember it made me feel very unhappy.
She died from having to much water and the official statement was that she died from ecstasy which encouraged her to drink water. Death by ecstasy. Although she'd had ecstasy before without adverse reactions...
 
Thank You! Acid_Reign
Now I can tell me gf that Anna Wood died coz she didn't know how to look after her self on E. and not that she died from what was in the E.
 
um, dont forget that the LD50 is defined as the survival rate of 50% of the test group.
dont forget the other half...
 
Thanks!!!
sweet leaf
how did you know the report was there?
& Why didn’t you say it was Anna Woods
 
Erm...minor technicality, but LD50 is the Lethal Dose for 50% of the control group. The other 50% survived. :
Cheers,
DB
 
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