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Does anyone know a good way to integrate Salvia experiences?

sun milk

sun milk

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I've done Salvia more times than I can count, and none of my trips except for one has been... beneficial, I suppose? Normally I just laugh psychotically and stare at all the dancing cartoon elves I see (on moderate doses) etc, but then when I come down my experience starts slipping away from my memory. And I know this is completely normal for me to forget most of the trip. But is there any way to integrate the experiences to learn more about myself? I don't necessarily do Salvia or other psychedelics to "get fucked up." I try to learn as much as possible about myself and reality, or in the case of psychedelics, other realities. I can integrate LSD or mushroom trips easily, but Salvia is definitely its own thing.

Does anyone have any tips?
 
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Yes. Do smaller doses of Salvia, and really clear the space in preparation for it. Eliminate any and all distractions in the room: turn off the computer, close books, neaten piles, make bed, turn off music, etc. Sit down and be still and clear your mind for a little bit, if only 5 minutes. Take a hit of a bowl half the size you usually do. Notice the interplay between your sober mind and your salviafied mind. Be Still. Notice things. Lie down.

just take less.

I do many non-breakthrough salvia trips and i almost always learn something about myself as a result. Or I let go of an arbitrary belief. Or something good like that.
 
I don't really believe in "integrating" peak experiences. The whole point of a peak experience is that it's a peak and it's momentary. I think trying to somehow integrate them into how you feel when you're getting out of bed at 5am on a monday morning to go to work is bound to end in disappointment.

Just enjoy it for what it is and know that it's always there for you whenever you need it.
 
I've come to realize that I integrate the experience of my Salvia trips as a whole. As an example: the first time I ever did it, after I came down I was in awe of how much was hidden behind normal reality/consciousness. And it changed my life (for the better). So that in itself was an integration.
Whereas with, say, mushrooms or LSD, I might come to a realization about my subconscious personality that I had never known before, and then integrate that into every day life. For example, "everything is happening exactly the way it should." Since realizing that on mushrooms a long time ago I no longer complain ("Why is this happening to ME? What did I ever do wrong to deserve this?") about things like that.

So, yes, I agree with your last statement. :)
 
I'm not too sure what you mean by integrating. To me, I only consider psychedelic experiences of an anomalous and perhaps humbling nature to require conscious integration. If you are using any drug a lot, the novelty of it wears down, and the experience becomes a lot less otherworldly. Like reading the same book over and over; no matter how good the book, by the 10th time you've read it, you probably won't be discovering anything new about the story.

Either way, its very hard to say exactly how salvia might benefit you. For me, its helped me when it comes to confronting fears and difficult childhood experiences-but not by any true psychedelic means; I just realised that facing fears or just being afraid (as I have been when on salvia) isn't that bad. Beyond this, I don't know if salvia has much of value to share. The incredible hallucinations are valuable enough, in my opinion.
 
What I meant by integration is taking the experience I've had and applying it to my daily life. Like what I said about my mushroom experience. I had a complete ego death trip and it made me realize that everything just "Is." I have chronic depression, and before that trip I would always complain and ask myself, "why is this happening to ME? What did I ever do to deserve this? The universe must hate me." But now, I accept what is happening and I realize that I and only myself can change my reality.

Salvia has also helped my depression. I actually read that there was a study a while ago that showed Salvinorin A improves depression long-term. :) Whether this is true or not, it certainly helped me. And yes, I do agree that the more you do something it loses some of its value, but every time I do Salvia it's a completely different trip and it's like I'm doing it for the second or third time again (where it's still awe-inspiring but not as shocking as the first time you do it). So I kind of look at it as visiting another reality (in my beliefs, I really am visiting another reality), and that in itself can be applicable to my daily life. I know there's more than just this 3d reality we live in.

...I've pretty much just answered my own question.. ahaha
 
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I do agree that the more you do something it loses some of its value, but every time I do Salvia it's a completely different trip and it's like I'm doing it for the second or third time again (where it's still awe-inspiring but not as shocking as the first time you do it). So I kind of look at it as visiting another reality (in my beliefs, I really am visiting another reality), and that in itself can be applicable to my daily life. I know there's more than just this 3d reality we live in.

...I've pretty much just answered my own question.. ahaha
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Yes, this is about what I was going to opine. Salvia is the realization that even from within human consciousness it is possible to live, briefly at least, an existence utterly removed from human life, that the scope of possible experience is as vast and wild as the world itself. Whatever limits consciousness may have, they are far beyond our comprehension, and we can know this fact first hand.
 
Mixing things with Salvia is a bad experience for me. Even mixing it with weed. I remember one time I smoked before I smoked the Salvia, and while I was tripping it was like everything came alive and was telling me "Molly, you don't need to mix anything with me, just experience this and only this." Which was probably my subconscious telling me, "you shouldn't have done that." Hahah :P
 
...sounds like the greater Salvia wisdom to me. If it were your own mind, it probably would have been like "oh shit, i'm regretting this." But it sounds like Salvia was gentle enough to say that you just didn't need to tamper.
 
Yeah, true that. Not really sure why I said that. I'm a really metaphysical person and believe in things that most people think are "weird." But I guess I don't have to hold back on this forum. :)
 
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