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Dodgy (fake) 3-mmc experience

Sp4rky

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Okay so, still on the comedown right now, so sorry if my words are slightly sporadic. Basically I tried 3-mmc for the first time at a rave a few months ago and I really liked it.

Am not 100% sure it was 3-mmc, that entire night is a whole story in itself, but my experience I had with that 3-mmc was very consistent with how people described their (tested) 3-mmc experiences.

So I went and got some 3-mmc from my dealer. Except here’s the thing: I live in the Netherlands and here roughly only 10% of 3-mmc samples handed in for testing actually contain 3-mmc. Usually it’s either 2-mmc, or some other similar RG.

As professional lab testing is free where I live, I do always try to get my stuff tested. Except I am still an absolute high chasing lab rat at heart and got impatient, so I tried the 3-mmc batch I got before getting it tested.

And holyshit damn it is not 3-mmc, or at least very very unlikely. I’d planned to do a little binge this weekend and thought it might be interesting to write down the experience. Especially since I do not know what substance this 3-mmc actually is, so therefore the experience is less based on any biases of certain substances.

I’m not asking for people to identify the actual substance, I mean, feel free to guess or give your experiences with any Cathinones, etc… but I have handed in a sample to get it tested, which will take a while, but eventually the mystery shall be solved.

not the first time I’ve used this batch, ohh and for context I did speed all day yesterday, obviously couldn’t sleep, tried ket + weed which was nice but did not help sleep wise. This morning I felt surprisingly chill, decent mood, not a terrible speed comedown except for slightly tired.

Decided to wait till after lunch to do the “3-mmc” to at least give my body some nutrients after my slight speed binge all week. Unfortunately have no clue dosage wise, still need to get a milligram scale and all and am terrible at eyeballing lines. That’s basically it yeah, going to attempt to sleep now, questions welcome ofc! :)

14:03 snorted a decent line. When I got the supposed 3-mmc, there were a lot of bigger rocks/crystals, so in order to snort it less painfully I broke it all up into as fine of a powder as I could get.

Still stings pretty bad tho, quite a bit more than speed, but the pain does fade relatively quickly.

14:09 Start feeling the effects, no big noticeable euphoria, but a more subtle ‘in a good mood’ type of feeling.

In the zone, listening to happy hardcore and working on my sewing project, feel more energetic but also quite calm.

14:19 first thoughts about re-dosing, not feeling a lot apart from a small energy buzz.

14:55 sweaty, tweaked out feeling inside my limbs, heavy body feeling and my stomach has turned into a knot. No nausea or anything, just tight feeling stomach, heart slightly faster. Still working on my sewing project.

15:00 snorted another line

15:06 nasal drip that feels numbing but also tastes disgusting like the local anesthesia that dentists use (at least here in the Netherlands)

15:08 euphoric head rush, light-headed fuzzy feeling, heart hammering in chest, working on my sewing project still and feeling a little faster than usual.

15:17 thoughts about redosing again, euphoria going down

15:44 made myself a big mug of coffee and ate a handful raisins, feeling calmer, still the urge to re-dose, not feeling majorly tweaky except my heart and stomach still.

15:56 incredibly spaced out feeling, sense of time is warped, sweating a lot and craving more. Slightly surprised by the spacey feeling, as if I’m super stoned. Can’t feel worried about it, it feels funny, I don’t mind it.

16:11 took two more lines, planning to keep this the last re-dose for today

16:15 sense of calmness falling over me, heart racing, very noticeable

16:19 wave of a lot of euphoria, spaced out and vision feels slow as if really stoned, nasal drip really badly again, don’t care, I feel good

16:22 feel slightly horny but feel too euphoric / sedated to do smt about it. Desire to close my eyes. Heart racing and feeling extremely disconnected & spaced out

16:28 wanting to take more, don’t care about consequences anymore, vision sporadic, indecisive, keep pacing back and forth. Switched clothes because of sweating and feeling hot.

16:33 euphoria coming down and wanting to take more, feel gender dysphoric, unable to deal with horniness, feels wrong and I hate ittt

16:35 Still nasal drip, tastes foul. Really intense craving for more.

16:40 Cut up another line, heavily trembling/shaking, heart hammering in chest.

Right before going to snort the line I looked in mirror, pupils completely blown out as if on xtc, wave of paranoia (live at home still, will need to be ‘presentable’ at dinner round 18:00)

Put the line of 3-mmc back in baggie, feeling shitty, want more but fear too big, thinking is hard, teeth grinding, going to grab chewing gum

16:44 intense fear about mom noticing my huge pupils, thinking to play sick

16:54 still paranoid about blown out pupils, Considering taking tramadol to help constrict pupils

17:01 heavy comedown feelings, massive sense of doom in my chest, heart still hammering, incredibly spaced out, vision weird & slow

17:06 music as loud in earphones as physically possible, it’s some kind of comfort

17:17 trying to ride out the discomfort, blasting my current comfort album, pupils still blown out, less anxiety, shaking slowly going down

17:19 anxiety, wish to snort a big line of ket and lie down in the dark by myself with my music.

17:32 went to pee, pupils still big, but a lot less noticeable, relieved

Still urge to take more, sad I don’t have good opportunities for drug binges upcoming week, hate uni and living at home

17:44 feeling more calm, big sense of longing and nostalgia for my first time xtc, want to feel that again, hell even the comedown I had, to cry and be sad but somewhere still happy about the experience you had. Now I feel sad and unable to cry.

17:47 feel the need to be completely alone, curtains closed in the dark with comfort lights and no disturbance, dreading my mom coming home soon and having to pretend to be sober at dinner

18:14 My mom came home, way later than usual, very annoyed as I kept pausing my music to hear her car in the driveway but she kept not coming back at usual time

Great sense of annoyance, hate everything and everyone, want to be alone

18:27 great sense of anger, sewing project went partially wrong, earbuds ran out of battery and can be called for dinner any second. Want to hurt myself or destroy something, need to cry but can’t

19:03 finally done with dinner, was able to eat something at least, appetite not as suppressed as on speed or xtc. need to do the dishes with my mom, she’s in a bad mood and I’m terrified that she senses I’m not sober.

Feel great anxiety, need to be alone but can’t, heart still racing, thinking is hard, vision blurry, want to lay down.

19:12 finally alone again, laying on my bed rn, yawning a ton, feel very tired, yet too twitchy to sleep

19:46 feeling brain dead, tiny bit nauseous and extremely detached / dissociative in an unpleasant way

20:00 ughhhhhhhh, is all I think and feel, but I am so grateful to be by myself with my music & such now. Incredibly tired, begging to be able to sleep tonight, have a lot to do for uni tomorrow.

20:29 Wish I could say I regretted this experience, but ehh, even feeling braindead right now I still feel like doing more. I won’t tho, urges not that strong, maybe a bit of weed soon to help me hopefully sleep tonight, other than that trying to stay sober for now, we’ll see about tomorrow idk

I can tell however that whatever this “3-mmc” is, it’s not good lol, I mean it is, but it isn’t. You get what I mean I think. I way prefer the euphoric feelings I get from speed, although those are slightly more mild (also have shit speed atm, only 27% pure boooo). Whatever is in this “3-mmc” is incredibly short lasting. I did get cravings with that first 3-mmc experience as well, but those were nowhere near as intense as this batch AND the 3-mmc at the rave lasted me a good 3-4 hours of significant effects at least + it made me way more social, unlike whatever this stuff is.

I’m stuck with 5g of this stuff too, need to stop buying my drugs when I’m high and over-enthusiastic I suppose oops. Will try to limit use until the test results come in and will update this thread once I get the results ofc!! (Hopefully within 2 weeks)
 
Okay so, still on the comedown right now, so sorry if my words are slightly sporadic. Basically I tried 3-mmc for the first time at a rave a few months ago and I really liked it.

Am not 100% sure it was 3-mmc, that entire night is a whole story in itself, but my experience I had with that 3-mmc was very consistent with how people described their (tested) 3-mmc experiences.

So I went and got some 3-mmc from my dealer. Except here’s the thing: I live in the Netherlands and here roughly only 10% of 3-mmc samples handed in for testing actually contain 3-mmc. Usually it’s either 2-mmc, or some other similar RG.

As professional lab testing is free where I live, I do always try to get my stuff tested. Except I am still an absolute high chasing lab rat at heart and got impatient, so I tried the 3-mmc batch I got before getting it tested.

And holyshit damn it is not 3-mmc, or at least very very unlikely. I’d planned to do a little binge this weekend and thought it might be interesting to write down the experience. Especially since I do not know what substance this 3-mmc actually is, so therefore the experience is less based on any biases of certain substances.

I’m not asking for people to identify the actual substance, I mean, feel free to guess or give your experiences with any Cathinones, etc… but I have handed in a sample to get it tested, which will take a while, but eventually the mystery shall be solved.

not the first time I’ve used this batch, ohh and for context I did speed all day yesterday, obviously couldn’t sleep, tried ket + weed which was nice but did not help sleep wise. This morning I felt surprisingly chill, decent mood, not a terrible speed comedown except for slightly tired.

Decided to wait till after lunch to do the “3-mmc” to at least give my body some nutrients after my slight speed binge all week. Unfortunately have no clue dosage wise, still need to get a milligram scale and all and am terrible at eyeballing lines. That’s basically it yeah, going to attempt to sleep now, questions welcome ofc! :)

14:03 snorted a decent line. When I got the supposed 3-mmc, there were a lot of bigger rocks/crystals, so in order to snort it less painfully I broke it all up into as fine of a powder as I could get.

Still stings pretty bad tho, quite a bit more than speed, but the pain does fade relatively quickly.

14:09 Start feeling the effects, no big noticeable euphoria, but a more subtle ‘in a good mood’ type of feeling.

In the zone, listening to happy hardcore and working on my sewing project, feel more energetic but also quite calm.

14:19 first thoughts about re-dosing, not feeling a lot apart from a small energy buzz.

14:55 sweaty, tweaked out feeling inside my limbs, heavy body feeling and my stomach has turned into a knot. No nausea or anything, just tight feeling stomach, heart slightly faster. Still working on my sewing project.

15:00 snorted another line

15:06 nasal drip that feels numbing but also tastes disgusting like the local anesthesia that dentists use (at least here in the Netherlands)

15:08 euphoric head rush, light-headed fuzzy feeling, heart hammering in chest, working on my sewing project still and feeling a little faster than usual.

15:17 thoughts about redosing again, euphoria going down

15:44 made myself a big mug of coffee and ate a handful raisins, feeling calmer, still the urge to re-dose, not feeling majorly tweaky except my heart and stomach still.

15:56 incredibly spaced out feeling, sense of time is warped, sweating a lot and craving more. Slightly surprised by the spacey feeling, as if I’m super stoned. Can’t feel worried about it, it feels funny, I don’t mind it.

16:11 took two more lines, planning to keep this the last re-dose for today

16:15 sense of calmness falling over me, heart racing, very noticeable

16:19 wave of a lot of euphoria, spaced out and vision feels slow as if really stoned, nasal drip really badly again, don’t care, I feel good

16:22 feel slightly horny but feel too euphoric / sedated to do smt about it. Desire to close my eyes. Heart racing and feeling extremely disconnected & spaced out

16:28 wanting to take more, don’t care about consequences anymore, vision sporadic, indecisive, keep pacing back and forth. Switched clothes because of sweating and feeling hot.

16:33 euphoria coming down and wanting to take more, feel gender dysphoric, unable to deal with horniness, feels wrong and I hate ittt

16:35 Still nasal drip, tastes foul. Really intense craving for more.

16:40 Cut up another line, heavily trembling/shaking, heart hammering in chest.

Right before going to snort the line I looked in mirror, pupils completely blown out as if on xtc, wave of paranoia (live at home still, will need to be ‘presentable’ at dinner round 18:00)

Put the line of 3-mmc back in baggie, feeling shitty, want more but fear too big, thinking is hard, teeth grinding, going to grab chewing gum

16:44 intense fear about mom noticing my huge pupils, thinking to play sick

16:54 still paranoid about blown out pupils, Considering taking tramadol to help constrict pupils

17:01 heavy comedown feelings, massive sense of doom in my chest, heart still hammering, incredibly spaced out, vision weird & slow

17:06 music as loud in earphones as physically possible, it’s some kind of comfort

17:17 trying to ride out the discomfort, blasting my current comfort album, pupils still blown out, less anxiety, shaking slowly going down

17:19 anxiety, wish to snort a big line of ket and lie down in the dark by myself with my music.

17:32 went to pee, pupils still big, but a lot less noticeable, relieved

Still urge to take more, sad I don’t have good opportunities for drug binges upcoming week, hate uni and living at home

17:44 feeling more calm, big sense of longing and nostalgia for my first time xtc, want to feel that again, hell even the comedown I had, to cry and be sad but somewhere still happy about the experience you had. Now I feel sad and unable to cry.

17:47 feel the need to be completely alone, curtains closed in the dark with comfort lights and no disturbance, dreading my mom coming home soon and having to pretend to be sober at dinner

18:14 My mom came home, way later than usual, very annoyed as I kept pausing my music to hear her car in the driveway but she kept not coming back at usual time

Great sense of annoyance, hate everything and everyone, want to be alone

18:27 great sense of anger, sewing project went partially wrong, earbuds ran out of battery and can be called for dinner any second. Want to hurt myself or destroy something, need to cry but can’t

19:03 finally done with dinner, was able to eat something at least, appetite not as suppressed as on speed or xtc. need to do the dishes with my mom, she’s in a bad mood and I’m terrified that she senses I’m not sober.

Feel great anxiety, need to be alone but can’t, heart still racing, thinking is hard, vision blurry, want to lay down.

19:12 finally alone again, laying on my bed rn, yawning a ton, feel very tired, yet too twitchy to sleep

19:46 feeling brain dead, tiny bit nauseous and extremely detached / dissociative in an unpleasant way

20:00 ughhhhhhhh, is all I think and feel, but I am so grateful to be by myself with my music & such now. Incredibly tired, begging to be able to sleep tonight, have a lot to do for uni tomorrow.

20:29 Wish I could say I regretted this experience, but ehh, even feeling braindead right now I still feel like doing more. I won’t tho, urges not that strong, maybe a bit of weed soon to help me hopefully sleep tonight, other than that trying to stay sober for now, we’ll see about tomorrow idk

I can tell however that whatever this “3-mmc” is, it’s not good lol, I mean it is, but it isn’t. You get what I mean I think. I way prefer the euphoric feelings I get from speed, although those are slightly more mild (also have shit speed atm, only 27% pure boooo). Whatever is in this “3-mmc” is incredibly short lasting. I did get cravings with that first 3-mmc experience as well, but those were nowhere near as intense as this batch AND the 3-mmc at the rave lasted me a good 3-4 hours of significant effects at least + it made me way more social, unlike whatever this stuff is.

I’m stuck with 5g of this stuff too, need to stop buying my drugs when I’m high and over-enthusiastic I suppose oops. Will try to limit use until the test results come in and will update this thread once I get the results ofc!! (Hopefully within 2 weeks)
Update:

Was able to sleep pretty decently, which I still think is kind of funny. With speed I can’t sleep at all even 15+ hours later but with this stuff I can’t sleep binge it all day, hell, I’ve even snorted some right before going to bed a while back and I can sleep just fine.

Do wake up tired tho, today has been a slow day. Hoping to get the test results for what this mystery substance is upcoming Thursday, but the lady at the test centre told me it might take longer, so ehh we’ll see.

Did end up doing some more of the supposed 3-mmc today. Not as crazy as yesterday, but fuck, the cravings with this stuff are actually crazy.

If anyone is reading this, what are y’alls experiences with cathinones like 3-mmc and 2-mmc? It is quite likely this batch of fake 3-mmc is 2-mmc, but even for 2-mmc I find the duration of the high incredibly short. Suspecting it might be 3-cmc or NEP

Will be ending this slight binge tomorrow, although I might do a little speed tomorrow morning. Speed is more my drug of choice, like whatever this 3-mmc is, is nice for a bit, but man the binge urges are shit.

Will update when I get the test results!
 
Just end the binge now mate and recover

Honestly now - in future leave it a couple for days after a speed session before attempting to get any decent results out of any more stims

It doesn't matter if you felt 'ok' (you were likely still under the influence tbh) the speed will have heavily taxed your system regardless 100%, no doubt at all. Take care
 
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