Tryptamines DMT what have you seen with it??? and a explanation of how to create DMT naturly

[Kitters]

i have recently learnt how to produce my own dmt and have access to it anytime i want ive have seen much and done plenty on it it show u things beyond the veil but the things ive done and seen are to complicated for the normal mind telling people usualy breaks there mind im interested in what have you seen/done on it ?

 

[4DQSAR]

5-MeO DMT.

It's cheaper and more potent than DMT and with my own eyes I've seen someone adulterate DMT with 5-MeO DMT and represent the mixture as 'pure DMT'.

In fact, I wonder just how common this practice is. But it put be off as 5-MeO is AWFUL.

 

[Kitters]

5-MeO DMT.

It's cheaper and more potent than DMT and with my own eyes I've seen someone adulterate DMT with 5-MeO DMT and represent the mixture as 'pure DMT'.

In fact, I wonder just how common this practice is. But it put be off as 5-MeO is AWFUL.

I'm not talking bout any external source of making DMT. The pineal gland produces DMT when properly stimulated, think of it as a pine-shaped grain of rice in the centre of the brain When properly done, redirecting spinal fluid to this region of the brain the process being called piezoelectric process Think of the pineal gland full of crystals like ice When pressure is applied to this it produces massive amounts of melatonin and DMT. I know you r going to say melatonin is for sleep but these two chemicals work together to open a door that most rarely get to traverse in

 

[Ismene2]

I'm not talking bout any external source of making DMT. The pineal gland produces DMT when properly stimulated, think of it as a pine-shaped grain of rice in the centre of the brain When properly done, redirecting spinal fluid to this region of the brain the process being called piezoelectric process Think of the pineal gland full of crystals like ice When pressure is applied to this it produces massive amounts of melatonin and DMT. I know you r going to say melatonin is for sleep but these two chemicals work together to open a door that most rarely get to traverse in

Is there any actual evidence the pineal produces DMT? I know a lot of people have pulled that suggestion out of their ass but Ive never seen any evidence for it. And the pineal is awful small - can a rice grain sized gland really store/create 50-100mg of DMT? The gland itself cant weigh that.

And what evidence is there that DMT ever reaches psychedelic levels naturally? Ive taken DMT hundreds of times and never once experienced tripping naturally. I know theres all that bullshit about it being "released when you die" - thats good bullshit cos no-one can ever come back and say it doesnt. None of the "near-death" experiences sound anything like DMT to me.

 

[Kitters]

takes a greast deal of control u have to be in a theata wave state first then what i wrote up there theres more to it but its very advanced i access it at will because ive been trained to

 

[pupnik]

A. you cannot put pressure on the pineal
B. it is a fallacy that pineal produces DMT in any significant amounts to produce psychedelic effects.
C. concentrative trance, or meditative jhana will make you stoned but it is not because of either melatonin or DMT it is from internal feedback in the brain causing a bit of dopamine release, but the effects are independent of chemicals - it is from sustained signalling.

 

[Skorpio]

DMT is only found at extremely low levels in the brain. It might serve as a TAAR agonist, but it is certainly not present in high enough of a concentration to be a 5HT2A agonist.

I really wish Strassman never started his spirit molecule bullshit. It wasn’t even a hypothesis, it was a musing, a what if, and it has dumbed down the collective psychedelic community for decades with various urban legends: “DMT makes you dream” “DMT is responsible for the phenomena related to dying” “muh penal gland!”

Though Hunter S. Thompson deserves some blame for his adrenochrome invention, that one certainly had worse outcomes.

 

[bingey]

I'm a schizopphrenic ans "tripped" so many Times naturally I Lost count thé visuals during psychosis are most liké shrooms but thé feel of thé expérience is more liké dxm or l'étamine with more fear .

Id love to have a look at my pinéal gland without slicing and dicing parts of me into a petri Dish '.

I definately believe dmt is thé death chemical but there must bé some NMDA antagonist at work too. Ketamine is thé death drug After all !

 

[Quasimoto]

On DMT? I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Trap houses on fire off the shoulder of the methadone clinic. I watched secret rave light shows glitter in the dark near the DEA Headquarters. All those moments will be lost in time, like the xanax bars my friends stole when I was blacked out.

 

[JackARoe]

I really wish Strassman never started his spirit molecule bullshit. It wasn’t even a hypothesis, it was a musing, a what if, and it has dumbed down the collective psychedelic community for decades with various urban legends:

Folklore really has to be called out no matter how poetic it sounds. Thanks all for the clarity all. I see more and more folklore created everyday. Cannabis folklore is a hot box. Years ago we were lucky to get a sack of weed, whatever weed we got we accepted. Now so much silliness has come about from legalization.

 

[kiely]

DMT is scary. If anything is a gateway drug it is. It is a gate into somewhere. They let you know who you are when they enter. They are the entities that communicate all of this through the entrance .... or trip i guess.

 

[Esperighanto]

I've used DMT hundreds of times, both orally and vaporized. They're two really divergent experiences imo, but a vaporized DMT breakthrough leading up visions of these memories of my mother I forgot I'd had, with fractal antlers and glowing eyes, introducing me to this whole chaining concept of "ancestral" feeling trips which started there. Of every drug I've ever used, few are at difficult to articulate as DMT.

 

[xdrc]

I really wish Strassman never started his spirit molecule bullshit. It wasn’t even a hypothesis, it was a musing, a what if, and it has dumbed down the collective psychedelic community for decades with various urban legends: “DMT makes you dream” “DMT is responsible for the phenomena related to dying” “muh penal gland!”

I also really liked his call to quantum blah blah in the end of the book! We have much to thank him, but he's a total wook.

 

[pupnik]

DMT is scary. If anything is a gateway drug it is. It is a gate into somewhere. They let you know who you are when they enter. They are the entities that communicate all of this through the entrance .... or trip i guess.

I watched the video,
I wonder how atypical I am or the host may be.
I guess we are all prone to "realization" no matter how absurd, and his certainly was. - that phenomenon - the absurd realization phenomenon - should be researched, ego loss pales in relation to complete belief in nonsense, as a common phenomenon.

but the beginning was great, I might get to a mirror sequence like his, but not out of a challenge to self, just because I am in a washroom,
but the degree of hallucination reported and animated - seemed to be full on LSD plus DMT - real - very nice!!!

 

[kiely]

I watched the video,
I wonder how atypical I am or the host may be.
I guess we are all prone to "realization" no matter how absurd, and his certainly was. - that phenomenon - the absurd realization phenomenon - should be researched, ego loss pales in relation to complete belief in nonsense, as a common phenomenon.

but the beginning was great, I might get to a mirror sequence like his, but not out of a challenge to self, just because I am in a washroom,
but the degree of hallucination reported and animated - seemed to be full on LSD plus DMT - real - very nice!!!

I'm sorry. Really. I was just grasping for straws. What are they then. Cartoon characters. The entities.

I was just trying to figure it all out and he had a much different perspective.


I mean chill dude already. Not you the video guy.

Thanx

--- bye

 

[kiely]

 

[kiely]

thatalmostmade me pee. what a dumb video yes.

 

[kiely]

Why ruin 2c-b as well. But it could work. lol DMT and acid.

 

[JackARoe]

If you want to be certain of what you have, you need to get appropriate instrumentation.

It's cheaper and more potent than DMT and with my own eyes I've seen someone adulterate DMT with 5-MeO DMT and represent the mixture as 'pure DMT'.

4Q this may not be the thread for this but you know I love when you keep repeating these things. It should be a sticky in another forum. As you know I have had issues with vendors and misrepresentation just from what I read, not from experience, about the purity of drugs and peoples experience. Back many years we had 6 drugs. And most were real and better quality. Drug dealers back then seemed to want to bring the stuff with quality and get repeat customers. Just like any other business. Now it has become sell anything and take the fallout. Xylazine? Who the f*ck would knowingly ingest that out of the blue?

Now we have untold number of new drugs, powders, liquids that go far beyond the 6 drugs available in 1975. Thousands. Each some complex make up. People take these from vendors at face value and really take risks. I have seen way to many incorrect orders to people. Once is bad enough. I read you said that someone ordering ketamine got something else.

I think we have to go by a much greater quality control. Luckly my favorites, Cannabis and mushrooms are getting better and easier to get. It is the other newer drugs that are being passed off as whatever. I do not think there was any black market ketamine when I was younger. You had a bottle from a vet or not. But if someone goes online and wants to purchase ketamine they SHOULD receive quality ketamine and not 3-xxx-xxx.

This post is out of order in this DMT thread. But for sure quality needs to be talked about on some level of harm reduction. This post may be moved.

Don't get me started of the mushroom gummies or 7-OH nonsense. If someone here from BL can confirm what they have is actual 7-OH then I would consider it because I trust people in the know. I would never try 7-OH from these fly by night companies and am almost sad some people support it. And the companies knowingly not supplying 7-oh to the unexpected.

ANWAY, different thread for this topic, but I do feel we need a stucky. Not so much in PD forum because as I stated those seem to get better and better quality. Maybe OD forum or Basic Drugs forum.

It makes me wonder about all the reports we read. Does a person actually get the substance that it was said it was.

Facts are so important. I may pester you to start a thread on quality and testing 4Q.

 

[4DQSAR]

Well, the instrumentation is extremely costly. The smart thing to do would be for Bluelight to fund a study on the misrepresentation and purity of the thousands of RCs that there are out there. MANY research institutes underutilize their instrumentation so rather than funding a group - assign funding to just one person. Not me, oh dery no, not me. But trust me, there are thousands of post-grad students who just perform instrumentation day in and day out. And PAY for the privilage of doing so. So offering one of them 12 months of funding in exchange for using the downtime, I think you would be knocked down in the Rush.

We CAN use the raw data as there are now free on-line tools that predict where peaks should be... so EVERYONE gets to learn the wonderful world of (kill me now) instrumental analysis.