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DMT smoked - experienced - "We" almost got there

yaesutom

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"We" almost...almost fuckin' got there..

DMT.... 70mg in a bowl.

With all my DMT experience, you'd think I would have broken through to "hyperspace" already - nope! Well this morning I tried, and i'll try again uh..well some day.

Music .. I put on Paul Van Dyke - Nothing But You, this song is great.. it is the perfect song to listen to while tripping and/or sucking in some nitrous oxide. There are a lot of versons, but I HIGHLY recommend any tripper get this song (the 6/7 minute version) and if getting ready to inhale a balloon of nitrous, start huffin' about 1:05 into the song, trust me ..... ;). It is the perfect song to experience any kind of 'ego loss' on, nitrous, 5-MeO-DMT, salvia, etc.

Anyway, although I have a glass pipe, it wasn't clean, and I usually find smoking it out of a bowl works fine, and is less harsh. I get the lighter flame just above the DMT, enough to melt it down/etc. Now maybe 1.5-2hrs before this, I smoked about 8-10mg 5-MeO-DMT, as I was told by a fellow "DMT head" that smoking 5meo before smoking n,n-dmt seems to clear you out and also works to kill any anxiety or uneasy feeling from the DMT. This 5-MeO-DMT I recently got, is a pure fine white powder, and looks much cleaner/different than the yellowish stuff i've had in the past. It also smells great when you smoke it (and even feels cleaner!). Ever since smoking the 5meo my mood has been excellent, although I didn't breakthrough completely.

So, I sat down with my bowl of DMT, took a few deep breaths, and then took a nice big hit. I held it in for a short time then took another hit or two I don't remember. My goal was to breakthrough to hyperspace.

Well! "I" found myself in a state of "WE", it was like I was split apart into several pieces, and different parts of my brain were communicating in english to the other parts, basically "talking" to each other trying to light the bowl and hit it again because "we" were so close to breaking through .... I remember seeing the chrysanthemum pattern all around everything, although "our" main focus was trying to toke on the bowl again to get more DMT.."we" were so close.. Now this whole time, "I" really didn't know that I had split up into "we"s, unaware of it, but still able to function enough to hit the bowl somehow. My vision was like looking through two holes for my eyes, like the left and right sides of the brain were split, and ..sort of pulled back a little. I'm not sure how long I was in this state, probably 5-8 minutes or so i'd guess. I suppose "we" knew there was no more DMT in the bowl to smoke, and it was almost like little arguments between "us" going on, like "dammit you should have not held in the smoke so long" and things like that, can't remember details but it was pretty fucking cool. Maybe i'm not really "split up", but, instead very connected up there and just very very aware of the "we" that is "I" and aware of communication going on. In a wierd way it can relate to a dissociative.. yet everything still connected or how could one part tell another part "move hand and light bowl". Is hyperspace when parts really do "dissociate", causing the perception of entities that seem like they are disconnected from you? Well I get that all the time on many doses of DMT, I guess I won't know til i get there ;).

So 'we're sitting there holding the bowl, thinking, I can't remember exactly what, just different parts of myself talking to each other. I eventually come back, think wow..just thinking about the experience. Then I look down, and my hands and arms look PINK! I mean, bright ass pink, then looking around the room some other things look quite pink too. I've gotten this a few times smoking DMT, although i've never read others reports about this "pink" color.

So ah shit, a failed breakthrough, but the wierd experience I thought i'd write about. I had taken piracetam a day or two before.. and I KNOW that stuff blocks DMT good, and does seem to take a good few days off it for it to be totally gone. That could have had a minor role I guess.

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Also i've noticed, ..sometimes i'll smoke a big dose of DMT, and it'll be different, visually i'll get this...bang bang bang like going out coming back out back, etc. I can feel it also. Then often, i'm left with a raging, hardon, and thoughts about fucking some girls.. sometimes the extreme urge to grab my phone and just call some up and be all horny. I get that quite often... When I have sex on DMT, i'm sure going to write a report cause I haven't seen any - which suprises me, I don't think there would be a better sex drug :).

Well one day i'll breakthrough to this hyperspace thing, I think i'll use an even higher dose just to make sure..
 
wow, crazy report, gutted you didnt break through.
must say i love the whole "we" and "i" talk
nice :)

peace.
 
I've had a similar thing happen to me with 4-HO-DiPT.

I was laying in bed w/ my gf and both of us stopped existing as single entities. We started to exist as multiple thoughts and ideas, like separate destinies moving around some unknown dimension melting into one another.

70mg is a lot! The most I've smoked is 19mg, and I'm sort of scared (not prepared?) to smoke more. I want to, but I just never feel like it's the "appropriate time."
 
Ahh, yes, the fine white powder 5-MeO! I have had experiences with both chunky off-white/yellow/brownish crystalline material, and fine white powder (different batches from same supplier), and the differences between them are enough to make me think that all the negative 5-MeO reports are coming from the use of the chunky off-white crystalline material!

This material has consistently felt, to both me and other friends of mine who are trusted bioassayers, to be "globular," "confusing/obfuscatory," "oppressive," and "highly pressurized" and was NOT conducive to having the 'glowing' type of 5-MeO trip that seems to be characterised in the trip reports...

HOWEVER, the fine, totally white powder material has proven to be THE SHIT - "flowing," "delocalized," "illuminating/not visionary," "conducive," "penetrative," "hilarious/prankster," the 'blowing aeons of clutter outta your chakras' thing, etc.

I can fully identify with the FRUSTRATION of nearly making it! Feeling as though every atom of your being is working together (but separately!) in synchronization, trying to fill that molecular gap, like a bunch of soldiers rushing into a battlezone - GO GO GO! WE MUST DO THIS! and getting crushed by a bunch of Mexicans. Hey, you always remember the Alamo...

Is hyperspace when parts really do "dissociate", causing the perception of entities that seem like they are disconnected from you?

Uhh.. I've only ever really definitely been there once, and I had shot up heroin (as it was free and I'd never done it.. it's nothing special and nothing I could see getting into!) about half an hour beforehand, which seemed to ease the transition 'out' of my body... It was unlike any of my other DMT experiences because I KNEW I had burst through, mainly because I was telepathically communicating with a group of 3 meter tall cellulose-based (don't ask how I know this, I just do..) mantis creatures for 20 minutes before I was dropped back into my body like Brian falling out of the spacecraft in that Monty Python movie...

And if that was a part of my own mind that I was perceiving as seperate.. I personally don't think it was, it seems to fit in with certain radical ideas in theoretical physics, and I would prefer at this point in time to embrace it for what it feels like as opposed to try to label it with something out of the DSM-IV or explain it away with pure physiology so I can shrug it off, drink my fucking caffeinated beverage and get to work faster and do more work, if you knowhatamine... If that's a psychotic state then I daresay that psychosis is more true to what actually exists than 'normality'!
 
I've had that "I" becoming "we" effect during the plateau of a heavy acid trip. It's a really fun little become-your-own-psychiatrist kind of moment. Very much like what being schizo is like for real, I would surmise.

yaesu: having broken into hyperspace on 80mg DMT + 50mgDPT, I would say that you were indeed probably ALMOST there, that might have been pretty frustrating. I am confident there is none of that "WE" business when you break all the way through -- it is just you and the hyperspace entities. The "WE" is much more like the state I was in on the comedown, like 10-15 minutes after toking.

This stuff about pure-white 5-meo is very, very intriguing to me....
 
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