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Disaster looms as oil slick reaches US coast

Jamshyd said:
Special, IMO, only inasmuch that they are both at the end capitalists and that greed for money transcends borders and organizations.

BP and American politicians are business partners first, and everything else second. "Environmentalists" is not even on the list.
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Unfortunately there is nothing special about that in this country. Monsanto, big pharmas (i.e. pfizer), Halliburton , etc... all fit the bill three times over.
 
Oil appearing in Rigolets - the passes from Lake Pontchartrain to the gulf.

That delicate balance changed when balls of tar were found in the Rigolets, one of two passes that connect Lake Pontchartrain with the Gulf of Mexico.

"So far it's scattered stuff showing up, mostly tar balls," said Office of Fisheries Assistant Secretary Randy Pausina. "It will pull out with the tide, and then show back up."

Pausina said he expected the oil to clear the passes and move directly into the lake, taking a back-door route to New Orleans.

Prevailing east winds since Hurricane Alex have steadily pushed the oil toward the city's eastern coastline along an arm of the Gulf. The state Department of Wildlife and Fisheries closed the area to fishing.

On Monday, 14 skimmers and four decontaminating units were working in the area, said Tammy Mitchell, spokeswoman for the joint information center in Houma.

"They were pulling out tar balls mostly," she said. By Monday night, 1,000 pounds had been picked up.

Oil spilling from the BP well would be the most significant environmental challenge since a massive recovery effort lifted Lake Pontchartrain from near death by pollution.

A playground for boating and fishing for many decades, urban runoff and the dredging of the lake bottom had chased away many species by the 1970s. Swimmers were warned of high counts of bacteria in the lake.

But after years of efforts by lake boosters, pollution was stemmed by new regulations and dredging of the lake bottom was halted.

Dolphins, fish in abundance and even an occasional visiting manatee came back to the lake, which is connected to the Gulf by two narrow passes and is a mixture of fresh and salt water.

For New Orleans, oil in the lake threatens the second major disaster to sweep in from the Gulf in five years. On Aug. 29, 2005, a massive storm surge driven by Hurricane Katrina swept into Lake Pontchartrain, contributing to the destruction of levees. An estimated 80 percent of the city flooded.

Until Monday, the oil's impact on the city proper was largely confined to fears tourism would suffer as the closure of seafood harvesting grounds threatened the cuisine at the city's internationally famous restaurants.

In communities surrounding the city, the impact has been greater. A massive cleanup effort has been mounted in St. Bernard, Plaquemines and Jefferson parishes, where oil has fouled marshes, stressed the economies of fishing villages and eroded tourism.

The BP-operated, Transocean Ltd.-owned rig Deepwater Horizon exploded April 20, killing 11 people, and sank two days later. The first oil reached the U.S. mainland on April 29 at the mouth of the Mississippi River.


On Monday, the Coast Guard confirmed oil found in Texas was from the BP well. It has now been found in every state along the U.S. Gulf Coast.
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Disgusting on how this is all falling into place...and look what the feds are saying....

I'd like to see this idiot from the CDC drink just one ounce of Crude Oil spiked with COREXIT and see how long he lives:

Dr. John Howard of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told a hearing of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions last week:

"Swallowing small amounts (less than a coffee cup) of oil will cause upset stomach, vomiting, and diarrhea, but is unlikely to have long-lasting health effects."

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65L6EC20100622
 
what really worries me is that not only do they not want it measured, but the government is cooperating with the information blackout. it is incomprehensible for any rational reason.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/06/gulf-oil-spill-scientists_n_636981.html

and now for something completely different: confidential Mark Dutroux victim autopsy photos found in office of Belgian Cardinal Danneels, who has been taken in for questioning:

Up to 100 photos showing the exhumation of the bodies of the children, but also exchanges of reports between magistrates in the Dutroux affair and large parts of the judicial file were found. The fact is that these documents were only intended for the judicial authorities and, a priori, had nothing to do with the church, explained RTL journalist.
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http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2547717/posts


anybody remember that moment from the "Richard" episode of Lost where he says, "I know where we are. We're in hell" (he was wrong--sort of.)
 
Who has an interest in not having accurate numbers for the spill? Larger numbers result in more outrage. More outrage makes people more upset, and more willing to call for blood.

So, who would not want large, accurate numbers for the size of this spill?

BP and the US government.

No big conspiracy needed, just mutually similar interests.
 
Escher's Waterfall said:
Who has an interest in not having accurate numbers for the spill? Larger numbers result in more outrage. More outrage makes people more upset, and more willing to call for blood.

So, who would not want large, accurate numbers for the size of this spill?

BP and the US government.

No big conspiracy needed, just mutually similar interests.
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Agreed.

The US doesnt want to kill ALL of its citizens, just the stupid redneck ones that live next to the gulf coast.
 
Hundreds of fishermen from Lake Charles to Moss Point, Miss., were supposed to get checks from BP on Wednesday but didn't.

Jeffrey Briet represents more than 500 fishermen, and he said the payment system he set up with BP required his clients to be paid every 30 days. Now that process has suddenly changed without warning, Briet said.

"Not only did they spring it on us that the process has changed, but the people I've been dealing with for six weeks who've done a good job said, 'We don't know what the process is going to be. We're not authorized to talk to you about it. Someone from BP will contact you,'" he said.

But Briet said he hasn't heard from BP or its lawyers. He said the claims people have been given so much conflicting information about the process that they can't provide answers.

"They couldn't tell me," he said. "And I said, 'I've got 500 people I'm meeting on Saturday. They want to know what the process is.'"

It's not the first time BP has given conflicting information.

On June 11, BP's security contractors tried to keep WDSU from speaking to cleanup workers despite the fact that BP released a statement two days earlier saying the workers could speak to the media.

On May 14, St. Bernard Parish fishermen were upset with low pay and out-of-towners taking their work.

Briet said he's meeting with some fishermen from Moss Point Thursday morning and more on Saturday in Jennings. He said BP hasn't given him any indication when the payments will resume.

Source:
http://www.wdsu.com/news/24178322/detail.html
 
The British government is drawing up contingency plans for a possible collapse of BP.

This is amid mounting fears that the oil giant could be broken up or taken over in the wake of the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster.

The talks, which are being led by officials at the Department for Business and the Treasury, reflect growing concern within Whitehall about the implications that a corporate failure of BP, formerly Britain's biggest company, would have on British interests domestically and around the world.

BP, whose value has more than halved since the April 20 accident, has liabilities of up to $US70 billion ($84bn), according to estimates by Goldman Sachs.

The company employs 10,105 British staff directly and generated tax receipts of pound stg. 5.8bn ($10bn) in 2009.

It also owns much of Britain's most critical energy infrastructure, including the Forties Pipeline System that connects more than 50 oil and gas producing fields in the North Sea.

In addition, BP controls vital strategic assets overseas, including the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline that bypasses Russia and Iran to connect Europe with the rich oil and gas resources of Azerbaijan and the Caspian region. As well as the political ramifications stemming from a collapse of BP, the government is also concerned about the impact on millions of British pensioners for whom the company's dividends have served as an important plank of their retirement income.

Prime Minister David Cameron and Energy Secretary Chris Huhne are set to discuss BP's future with US officials during a trip to Washington on July 20.

Speaking in Toronto at the G20 on June 25, Mr Cameron warned that BP faced potential destruction unless US authorities stepped in to prevent its compensation costs escalating out of control.

The Department for Business declined to comment on the contingency plans, which are believed to still be under discussion and have encompassed a range of subjects from pension arrangements to the future of BP's international empire.

A person familiar with the talks said: "It is not clear how bad this will get, but the government needs to be prepared for any eventuality."
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Lab tests have confirmed that water throughout the Gulf of Mexico is now very highly toxic. A couple of "independent journalists" were able to obtain water samples from the Gulf and send them out to a scientific laboratory for testing. The samples sent in were from along the shore in Louisiana and also from 20 miles out. The results were absolutely shocking. The tests found concentrations of propylene glycol at between 360 and 440 parts per million. Needless to say, that is extremely alarming. Propylene glycol at just 25 parts per million will kill most fish. So what in the world is going to happen to fish that encounter this kind of toxic soup? It is going to be a complete and total nightmare for them. So where is all of this propylene glycol coming from? Well, propylene glycol is one of the key ingredients found in the various Corexit brand dispersants that BP has been using in the Gulf of Mexico. Up to this point, BP has dumped over a million gallons of such dispersants into the Gulf. So instead of actually saving the environment of the Gulf of Mexico, BP is rapidly poisoning it. The destruction of sea life is going to be on a scale that is absolutely unimaginable.

A video detailing these lab tests was recently posted on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCZyRaFo5vM&feature=player_embedded
 
re: kenikie's article

I say dissolve the company and use the assets to do whatever we can to stop this leak and start a clean up. Use the other billions upon billions to compensate everyone effected. Also, anyone responsible for decisions leading to this disaster should be convicted of heinous crimes.

Even that wouldn't be enough :(
 
NATO Orders All “Critical Assets” Moved 100 Miles Inland From Gulf Oil Spill Region

A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared for President Medvedev by the foreign military intelligence directorate (GRU) warns that Admiral Giampaolo Di Paola, North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s (NATO) current Chairman of the Military Committee, has ordered all “critical assets” of the Western alliance to be moved “at least” 100 miles inland from the Gulf of Mexico oil spill catastrophe region setting up a potential battle in the US over who will control this disaster as it continues to get worse.

Not understood by the American people about the worst environmental catastrophe in their history is that it falls under the responsibility of NATO and not the US government due to the recently adopted provisions of the “Alliance Reborn: An Atlantic Compact for the 21st Century” major policy report outlining the responses of Member Nations in the event of natural disasters and other such catastrophes.

Curiously, this report continues, President Obama continues his fight to retain control over this historic catastrophe for his intelligence services instead of his military forces, chief among them the United States Coast Guard which is the defacto naval force for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) who he has placed in charge of this disaster with BP, both of whom this past week threatened journalists with felony arrests and $40,000 fines for reporting on the truth of what is happening.

Note: US news reports are stating today that BP security guards and DHS agents have already begun making arrests, including Texas-based freelance photographer Lance Rosenfield.

Interesting to note is that Obama’s stance in refusing to allow his military forces to use its vast power against this catastrophe has put him at odds with former President Bill Clinton, who just this past week called for the US Navy to be put in charge so they can blow up the leaking well and avert an even greater disaster than what is now unfolding.

Though Clinton called for the use of conventional explosives to stop this oil leak, other experts, especially Russian scientists, (who are the only people in the World to have actually sealed these types of deep oil wells once they blew out) state that only nuclear weapons can be used as the Gulf of Mexico seafloor is now so fractured only this most radical of solutions should even be considered.

Spurring Admiral Di Paola into action, this report continues, was Obama’s statements about this catastrophe made to other World leaders at the recent G8 summit where he warned that “millions, perhaps tens of millions” could die due to this disaster while at the same time he had ordered his government to refuse all International aid.

After NATO taking command, though, Obama this past week was forced to relent and “reluctantly” began allowing foreign resources into American waters to begin battling this massive and historic disaster. Note: To why Obama has refused to stop this catastrophe it should be noted the billions-of-dollars being made from it by many of America’s elite classes, and as we had previously reported on in our June 16th report “Obama To Earn Nearly $85 Million From Gulf Oil Disaster”.

As to how much worse this catastrophe is going to get, the United States National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is today warning that oil will soon begin polluting the beaches of Florida’s Keys and Miami. Even worse is NOAA reporting that aside from no one being in charge of this catastrophe, and we quote, “two and a half months after the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded and sank, little is known about the present location of the plumes of oil and dispersants, where they’re heading or how toxic the brew will be to creatures in its path.”

This information is critical to know as new reports arrive to us every day of new toxic oil rains falling across this devastated region, and as we had warned would happen in our May 23rd report titled “Toxic Oil Spill Rains Warned Could Destroy North America”.

Making this dire situation even worse are reports stating that the water temperature of the Gulf of Mexico has risen by as much as 7 degrees making the likelihood of a major hurricane a virtual certainty, and as evidenced by last weeks Hurricane Alex that was this region’s first June hurricane storm since 1995 and described by Mexico’s Notimex News Service as “an extraordinary phenomenon that has never been seen before”.

Being especially hard hit in this disaster are the Gulf of Mexico fish and wildlife species that are now reported to be being incinerated by BP in their effort to keep the terrifying scope of this catastrophe from being known to the American people. Scientists have even reported a whale found 77 miles south of spill [photo bottom left] burnt and floating dead on the surface of the sea.

And though the tragic toll being exacted on these creatures is beyond description it is about to get worse, much worse, as according to American scientists tens-of-millions of birds are preparing to fly across the Gulf of Mexico in the coming weeks as they begin their annual migration from North America to their South and Central America winter homes and are expected to quickly perish from the toxic fumes they’ll encounter in the most perilous journey of their lives.

Not just these birds are in danger from these toxic fumes either as new reports coming from the US are now reporting what is called a “mysterious flu-like illness” attacking oil spill workers and rumors abound of secret plans being put into place by NATO to begin large scale evacuations of this region while the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) continues setting up decontamination centers to assist those being affected. (Important to note about the toxic illnesses from those exposed to leaking crude oil, and as we had previously reported on in our June 27th report “Obama Warns World Leaders ‘Millions Could Die’ From Gulf Oil Disaster”, nearly all of the thousands of oil spill cleanup workers from the 1989 Alaskan Exxon Valdez disaster are now dead.)

One of the World’s leading research centers for the effects of toxic oil and disbursements is the United States George Washington University-Maritime Medical Access program (MMA) whose scientists report their being called into the Gulf region shortly after this disaster began as workers began to fall ill and prompting the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to issue a warning that, in part, states: “People, including pregnant women, can be exposed to these chemicals by breathing them (air), by swallowing them (water, food), or by touching them (skin). If possible, everyone, including pregnant women, should avoid the oil and spill-affected areas.”

At this time though, and in spite of the warning issued by the CDC, there remains no evidence that the American people in this region are leaving, or even preparing to leave before they fall ill and die. The same, however, cannot be said about the US Military who new reports show are moving themselves and their families away from the Gulf disaster region as, and we quote from one such report, “scientists have postulated that this uncontrolled, massive release of toxins is going to cause extreme phenomenon around the globe, including major fluctuations in climate causing super storms similar to those in the Hollywood movie “The Day After” that are going to be mind boggling.”

Most shocking of all of these events are that the American people remain fixated on their lying propaganda media and government officials to tell them what to believe and think in spite of the many years of warnings of these things we, and others like us, have been warning for years was going to occur. Most notably the Canadian author and activist Naomi Klein’s 2009 movie “The Shock Doctrine” that explains how “disaster capitalism” quickly follows Global economic collapses that feed on natural disasters, war and terror to establish dominance over people for the sole benefit of the elite classes.

Equally important has been the Sorcha Faal’s lecture series “Total War: the Collapse of the United States and the Rise of Chaos” [Part 16 available now at this link, bottom of page] detailing the historical and current event facts behind what is called “The Forth Turning” whose authors warned in the 1990’s, “Just after the millennium, America will enter a new era that will culminate with a crisis comparable to the American Revolution, the Civil War, the Great Depression, and World War II. The survival of the nation will almost certainly be at stake.”

And in these momentous times, and as crisis upon crisis continues to shock the senses of all, most important for the masses of ordinary people to remember is that even though we grow fewer by the day, there does remain many of us, all throughout the World, who have not only warned about what is happening now, we know the worst is yet to come.

But in our knowing of these things, and in fulfilling our task of telling them to you, it is important to remember that after every storm there does come a brighter day which our efforts are designed to see you through to….if only you listen.

And we know how hard that may be for you to do, after all it’s taken your whole life to finally figure out how much you have been lied to about virtually everything and how much those in power will do to keep you from finding out the truth. Now in your knowing the truth it becomes your responsibility to then tell others so that they too can be warned. And yes, you will be laughed at, even scorned by those who you may even consider your closest family and friends. So what though? If your efforts save even one life it is worth it, never forgot that.

For those of you in the Gulf region itself who are reading these words know that our prayers are with you for your health and safety and that our efforts on your behalf will remain tireless and unswerving as you deserve nothing less, May The Peace And Understanding And Wisdom Of God Be Upon You All In Your Most Desperate Hour Of Need.
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More at the source:
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/07/nato...-100-miles-inland-from-gulf-oil-spill-region/

Youtube Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4bDW12Fr78&feature=player_embedded
 
^^thanks for that article. my gut is it is spot on, especially the end.

People need to get the fuck out of the gulf right now. IMO do whatever you have to do to leave or you're probably going to die. WWOOF a farm in Canada or the northern USA. Just get out.
 
I had some family in Florida that had property on the gulf...
This was a beautiful custom beach front home that they even custom built; they short sold it for under 200k.....and feel like they where the winners of the deal.... Some people value health and life more than anything else....

My family was also good friends with their Realtor who said she had so much property up for sale, half built homes, land, HUGE mansions and ect.... a lot of smart people are trying to get out with some money, rather than be told to leave and have the property value droop even more... All Florida needs is a nice size hurricane to come in and they are pretty fuck as would some other states...

So for all the people who say its not a big deal... why don't you go down to Florida and pick up some nice houses for dirt cheap.....
that is if you have faith in your government.....

Not even to mention if that sea floor caves in and causes wave that would go inland killing thousands...
 
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BP doctor says up to 1,500 cleanup workers sickened…

CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta sat down Wednesday for an exclusive interview with the man in charge of BP’s medical response, Dr. Kevin O’Shea. He said more than 1,500 workers have sought medical care through BP, a significant increase from previously reported numbers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTxx9fu5Ta8&feature=player_embedded


Escher's Waterfall said:
If they are building beach front homes, with the resulting coastal habitat loss and ecological damage, should they really be the first to complain about the oil spill spoiling the environment?
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No they got bought a shitty house and turned into something nice. Almost every time you build a home you do some kind of ecological damage... I would assume BP has done more damage than a retired couple who wanted to turn a shitty run down house into something nice...I just want to add Fuck you BP....
 
Jamshyd said:
Special, IMO, only inasmuch that they are both at the end capitalists and that greed for money transcends borders and organizations.
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What I meant is that they're 'special' in that their particular state-corporate collusion appears to go beyond what is possible with typical market logics in relation to present political dynamics. What is needed, then, is a specific historical analysis of how BP came to wield its particular form and intensity of political power.

ebola
 
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