Relatively brief notes on this trip... (I did also collect some quantitative data on pitch perception, which I'll add to this thread when I've analyzed it.)
Dose, substance, route
I took 96 mg (+/- 1 mg) of DiPT, orally.
Circumstances
I took the DiPT alone in my flat at 10.25 pm on a Saturday evening, having been awake since 08.00 am and having spent a pleasant day with my girlfriend, and with no academic obligations for the following day, and the only interpersonal obligation being to see my girlfriend on the following day's evening at 7 pm. However, I was quite tired (reduced sleep in past week), and had had a large meal a few hours previously.
Expectations
I've taken DiPT about a dozen times before, most recently four weeks previously. Based on my previous experiences (70 mg takes me to level 3, 100 mg to level 4, as described in my summary of my DiPT experiences in the B&D DiPT thread) , I expected to experience a three-semitone perceived pitch lowering for a a few hours, accompanied by vocoding of voices, low-pass filtering, among other things; and I expected to experience a reasonable and quite intense peak within that, in which the distortions of pitch and timbre became more exotic and, in silence, prominent and elaborate closed ear audials manifested, accompanied by psychedelic cognition.
My motivations for this trip were two-fold: I wanted to reacquaint myself with the more intense closed-ear-audial/psychedlic phase of DiPT (having only touched briefly upon it in my last 86 mg trip), and collect more data at a range of frequencies on my pitch perception, particularly during the more intense auditory phases (where one might expect the effects to be large enough for nonlinearities to be detected).
Commentary
Damn eggy-bread
Well, this was a rather disappointing trip. Mild (+1/+2) cognitive psychedelic effects for about an hour, from t+2.00 to t+3.15. Auditory effects peaked at Level 2, with a two semitone drop in perceived pitch, and enough inharmonicity that there is some vocoding on lower sounds, and music sounds dissonant but not beautifully transformed. On top of that, these, relatively dull, auditory effects persisted for a very long time, remaining around Level 2 from about t+3.00 to t+7.30 at least. At level 1 (1 semitone drop, but no clear inharmonicity noted) still at t+13:45; and some auditory effects (manifesting as phone dialling tone and button tones sounding wrong pitched at t+17.00. Auditory baseline wasn't attained until t+19.00.
I think the disappointingness of this trip can be attributed to a combination of factors: (1) I was very tired, and thus less able to appreciate what little the trip did have to offer; and (2) I had eaten a very large meal (albeit three hours prior to dosing). Based on previous experiences, 96 mg should have given me a fair period at Level 4 (rich, complex closed-ear audials), with a good while at Level 3. But my previous experiences were with more empty stomachs than this one. I would guess that my relatively full stomach slowed absorption, such that the dose was more like repeated low doses over a period of hours.
The period from t+3.30 to 7.30, during which I was lying in bed in the dark, but was too mentally stimulated to sleep, was oddly reminiscent of the post-peak plateau of Methylone (but without the closed-eye visuals; rather more euthymic; and more erotically enhanced - DiPT has always seemed the most erotically charged psychedelic I've taken).
If most of my DiPT experiences were like this one, I would probably be as unenthusiastic as those who dismiss it as barely psychedelic, with merely annoying auditory distortions that just make music sound bad. But I know DiPT has so much to offer, psychedelically and auditorily.
I just didn't go into this trip in the right mental or physical state.
*abases self before the glorious DiPT*
All effects, in chronological order
t+0.00 96 mg DiPT oral
t+0.30 First mild alerts.
t+1.30 +1 cognitive effects
t+1.50 Mild low pass auditory effects (i.e. bass is enhanced).
t+2.00 Very mild visuals, 1 semitone shift.
t+2.15 Feeling quite lively.
t+2.20 Music starting to sound slightly odd.
t+2.25 Voices deep, some vocoding.
t+2.50 Briefly, stimulation felt uncomfortable.
t+3.15 Peak of stimulation and cognitive effects. Cognitive effects at a mild +2. Music is perhaps at Level 2 (two semitone drop; some inharmonicity, but not full), maybe 3 briefly (three semitone drop, full inharmonicity), but certainly not 4 (nonlinear pitch distortion, and prominent closed-ear audials). Audials are briefly just about detectable if attention highly focussed.
t+3.30 to t+7.30 Residual stimulation (but no cognitive effects) prevent sleep, though sleep is desired. This period spent in silence, dark, in bed.
t+7.30 Music is still at Level 2!
t+7.45 to 12.15 Slept.
t+12.30 Relatively mild low-pass still noted in environment.
t+13:45 Still about 1 semitone drop in mid-range piano: less clear in lower and higher parts.
t+17:00 Piano seems now to be right pitch, but phone dialling tone and button tones sound off.
t+19:00 Seem to be at auditory baseline.
Experience
I've taken DiPT a dozen or so times before at between 60 and 100 mg oral doses. Previous experience with other psychedelics (including a few debatable psychedelics) includes:
MDMC (more than a dozen times, at doses mostly between 180 mg and 240 mg),
MDMA (perhaps three times a long time ago, at 120 mg to 150 mg doses, I'd guess, and more recently one 80 mg dose),
2C-B (twice at 25 mg, once at c. 15 mg; once more recently at 26 mg),
2C-C (once at 36 mg),
2C-E (half a dozen times, at 18 to 25 mg),
LSA (once, unknown low dose from perhaps 6 HBWR seeds, iirc)
LSD (a few times, a long time ago, mostly fairly low - but not precisely known - doses),
4-HO-DMT and 4-PO DMT (both in the form of mushrooms, at a wide range of not precisely known doses, on many occasions, ranging from threshhold to intense trips),
4-AcO-DMT (four occasions, ranging from 10 mg to 30 mg),
pFPP (one occasion, 60 mg),
Salvinorin A (in the form of smoked Salvia divinorum perhaps a dozen times, range of not very precise doses, from threshold to intense in effects),
THC (in the form of smoked cannabis, innumerable times, wide range of doses).
What else passed my lips that day?
Food: 2 thick slices of bread, 2 large eggs, two-thirds of a can of baked beans, a large pile of cheese, a small portion of fried cabbage, at t - 3.00. Prior to that, at t - 9.00, 1 egg and two slices of toast, and at t - 12.00 a bowl of cereal.
Other drugs taken: caffeine (in the form of tea and coffee) during the day; nicotine (in the form of smoked cigarettes) during the day (perhaps 10 roll-ups). Tobacco and suspected cannabinoids were smoked regularly throughout the DiPT trip.
What other drugs had I used recently?
Most recent was 26 mg 2C-B 14 days before this trip. Prior to that, was 86 mg DiPT 28 days before this trip. No other psychedelic, empathogenic, or stimulant use (other than cannabis, suspected cannabinoids, tobacco, and caffeine) in the past month.
substancecode_dipt
explevel_experienced
Dose, substance, route
I took 96 mg (+/- 1 mg) of DiPT, orally.
Circumstances
I took the DiPT alone in my flat at 10.25 pm on a Saturday evening, having been awake since 08.00 am and having spent a pleasant day with my girlfriend, and with no academic obligations for the following day, and the only interpersonal obligation being to see my girlfriend on the following day's evening at 7 pm. However, I was quite tired (reduced sleep in past week), and had had a large meal a few hours previously.
Expectations
I've taken DiPT about a dozen times before, most recently four weeks previously. Based on my previous experiences (70 mg takes me to level 3, 100 mg to level 4, as described in my summary of my DiPT experiences in the B&D DiPT thread) , I expected to experience a three-semitone perceived pitch lowering for a a few hours, accompanied by vocoding of voices, low-pass filtering, among other things; and I expected to experience a reasonable and quite intense peak within that, in which the distortions of pitch and timbre became more exotic and, in silence, prominent and elaborate closed ear audials manifested, accompanied by psychedelic cognition.
My motivations for this trip were two-fold: I wanted to reacquaint myself with the more intense closed-ear-audial/psychedlic phase of DiPT (having only touched briefly upon it in my last 86 mg trip), and collect more data at a range of frequencies on my pitch perception, particularly during the more intense auditory phases (where one might expect the effects to be large enough for nonlinearities to be detected).
Commentary
Damn eggy-bread
Well, this was a rather disappointing trip. Mild (+1/+2) cognitive psychedelic effects for about an hour, from t+2.00 to t+3.15. Auditory effects peaked at Level 2, with a two semitone drop in perceived pitch, and enough inharmonicity that there is some vocoding on lower sounds, and music sounds dissonant but not beautifully transformed. On top of that, these, relatively dull, auditory effects persisted for a very long time, remaining around Level 2 from about t+3.00 to t+7.30 at least. At level 1 (1 semitone drop, but no clear inharmonicity noted) still at t+13:45; and some auditory effects (manifesting as phone dialling tone and button tones sounding wrong pitched at t+17.00. Auditory baseline wasn't attained until t+19.00.
I think the disappointingness of this trip can be attributed to a combination of factors: (1) I was very tired, and thus less able to appreciate what little the trip did have to offer; and (2) I had eaten a very large meal (albeit three hours prior to dosing). Based on previous experiences, 96 mg should have given me a fair period at Level 4 (rich, complex closed-ear audials), with a good while at Level 3. But my previous experiences were with more empty stomachs than this one. I would guess that my relatively full stomach slowed absorption, such that the dose was more like repeated low doses over a period of hours.
The period from t+3.30 to 7.30, during which I was lying in bed in the dark, but was too mentally stimulated to sleep, was oddly reminiscent of the post-peak plateau of Methylone (but without the closed-eye visuals; rather more euthymic; and more erotically enhanced - DiPT has always seemed the most erotically charged psychedelic I've taken).
If most of my DiPT experiences were like this one, I would probably be as unenthusiastic as those who dismiss it as barely psychedelic, with merely annoying auditory distortions that just make music sound bad. But I know DiPT has so much to offer, psychedelically and auditorily.
I just didn't go into this trip in the right mental or physical state. *abases self before the glorious DiPT*
All effects, in chronological order
t+0.00 96 mg DiPT oral
t+0.30 First mild alerts.
t+1.30 +1 cognitive effects
t+1.50 Mild low pass auditory effects (i.e. bass is enhanced).
t+2.00 Very mild visuals, 1 semitone shift.
t+2.15 Feeling quite lively.
t+2.20 Music starting to sound slightly odd.
t+2.25 Voices deep, some vocoding.
t+2.50 Briefly, stimulation felt uncomfortable.
t+3.15 Peak of stimulation and cognitive effects. Cognitive effects at a mild +2. Music is perhaps at Level 2 (two semitone drop; some inharmonicity, but not full), maybe 3 briefly (three semitone drop, full inharmonicity), but certainly not 4 (nonlinear pitch distortion, and prominent closed-ear audials). Audials are briefly just about detectable if attention highly focussed.
t+3.30 to t+7.30 Residual stimulation (but no cognitive effects) prevent sleep, though sleep is desired. This period spent in silence, dark, in bed.
t+7.30 Music is still at Level 2!
t+7.45 to 12.15 Slept.
t+12.30 Relatively mild low-pass still noted in environment.
t+13:45 Still about 1 semitone drop in mid-range piano: less clear in lower and higher parts.
t+17:00 Piano seems now to be right pitch, but phone dialling tone and button tones sound off.
t+19:00 Seem to be at auditory baseline.
Experience
I've taken DiPT a dozen or so times before at between 60 and 100 mg oral doses. Previous experience with other psychedelics (including a few debatable psychedelics) includes:
MDMC (more than a dozen times, at doses mostly between 180 mg and 240 mg),
MDMA (perhaps three times a long time ago, at 120 mg to 150 mg doses, I'd guess, and more recently one 80 mg dose),
2C-B (twice at 25 mg, once at c. 15 mg; once more recently at 26 mg),
2C-C (once at 36 mg),
2C-E (half a dozen times, at 18 to 25 mg),
LSA (once, unknown low dose from perhaps 6 HBWR seeds, iirc)
LSD (a few times, a long time ago, mostly fairly low - but not precisely known - doses),
4-HO-DMT and 4-PO DMT (both in the form of mushrooms, at a wide range of not precisely known doses, on many occasions, ranging from threshhold to intense trips),
4-AcO-DMT (four occasions, ranging from 10 mg to 30 mg),
pFPP (one occasion, 60 mg),
Salvinorin A (in the form of smoked Salvia divinorum perhaps a dozen times, range of not very precise doses, from threshold to intense in effects),
THC (in the form of smoked cannabis, innumerable times, wide range of doses).
What else passed my lips that day?
Food: 2 thick slices of bread, 2 large eggs, two-thirds of a can of baked beans, a large pile of cheese, a small portion of fried cabbage, at t - 3.00. Prior to that, at t - 9.00, 1 egg and two slices of toast, and at t - 12.00 a bowl of cereal.
Other drugs taken: caffeine (in the form of tea and coffee) during the day; nicotine (in the form of smoked cigarettes) during the day (perhaps 10 roll-ups). Tobacco and suspected cannabinoids were smoked regularly throughout the DiPT trip.
What other drugs had I used recently?
Most recent was 26 mg 2C-B 14 days before this trip. Prior to that, was 86 mg DiPT 28 days before this trip. No other psychedelic, empathogenic, or stimulant use (other than cannabis, suspected cannabinoids, tobacco, and caffeine) in the past month.
substancecode_dipt
explevel_experienced
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