Yeah, the NBOMe series has a small therapeutic range, but as long as you're not laying blotters and hoping for gravity to be your friend, you're still able to use them relatively safely through volumetric dosing. The only bad experiences with them I directly know of was where when others took it, and I had no control over their dose, and all of the people that had the bad experience confessed they did more than I said they should. However, they still feel foul on the body and there's quite some vasoconstriction sometimes, so caution is advised, and in light of safer alternatives, yeah why bother?
However, I do think they have their place. As others have said, they are very visual, even at low doses and The Most Beautiful Thing I have Ever Seen (™Upworthy) was during one of those trips. Before the controversy, nay, outrage, over these chemicals I did it with some first timers and given that the dose equaled maybe 100ug of 'cid it remained lucid, yet it was visual to the point of 250ug. (!) I can't imagine a psychedelic that is closer to the thing people have in their heads what a psychedelic is, while still offering a taste of what a psychedelic really is.
I get your point though, and this is the advice I heed now as well. Who can forget that dude who messed up his metric system, misplacing the the comma to the power of 3. Such errors can happen to anyone, and it's price is too heavy to pay. With the inexperienced, I tend towards either just a classic, 4-HO-MET or AL-LAD. For myself, I look for more in my experiences nowadays, so I don't really do them anymore. However, you're hardly playing with your life if you double check your measurements, give yourself some range for error when dosing (lower concentration), start as low as possible and never take them beyond 1mg though I'd stay even lower than that. It's there and reasons can be found to take it, so we better make sure that people stay safe.
I tend to agree with most you said
Especially that it is important to help people to take them safely, if they can't be dissuaded from it altogether. There's kind of a tendency here, that when people ask about NBOMe's they get several one-lined answers like: "
Idiot!!! get the fuck out, why you wanna die?", which isn't really helpful.
As I've said, I actually liked 25I-NBOMe that one time I tried it. And that was before people started dying - if they hadn't I'd probably still be taking it from time to time. They are cheap and have a reputation of being
like acid. So I do understand why some one would want to take them. And I totally get that they are more clearheaded at the same level of visually intensity compared to other psychdelics, and that
some people swear they´ve had their best psychedelic experiences with NBOMe´s. I just personally believe that
any psychdelic actually has the power to, at the right dose, time and place, to be that super awesome unbeatable experience.
Isn't it also a hallmark of phenethylamines in general to be described as being "
more visual and more clearheaded than LSD"? That was how 2C-I was described to me the first time I heard about it anyway. Another more negative word for that is
shallow, which is also how NBOMe's are described often, which is very much in line with my own one experience with 25I. Sometimes shallow is good, more recreational. I can understand why people would find that desireable. But it´s imo wrong to think they are more visual than other psychdelics.
I actually don't think liquid dosing is the safest way to ingest NBOMe´s. The best method, which is also what I did when I took it, is to use a
micropipette, and dose each piece of blotter paper seperately. Micropippetes can be bought cheaply on ebay, and you would need one that goes down to 20 microliters, which can easily be absorbed on a 1x1 cm square of very think cardboard-like blotting paper. (real blotting paper, not the collectors stuff with fancy psychedelic print on it)
I can see so many ways that liquid dosing could mess up. If you take NBOMe's, you have to be completely sure that you would never fall to the temptation of wanting to dose it at festivals, or at occations were you are drunk, fucked up on benzo's or dissociated on MXE. Or maybe tripping on something else, and the only booster you have is some liquid 25I.
Are you sure you can handle
that liquid and
that oral syringe responsibly, everytime, no matter what state you are in? I know I don't trust myself to do it, which is why I decided to flush my NBOMe's and not have them in my house.
Ask yourself: "Am I infallible? Do I trust myself 100% - 100% of the time? And, have I ever made a bad decision?"
If the answers isn't: Yes, yes, no. Then you shouldn't mess with NBOMe's, imo.
Also, some people to seem to be allergic, or just react badly to it. If you take NBOMe´s, chances are you are sharing it with freinds, and you are seriously taking a huge risk on other peoples behalf, when you do it. (When I say you, I don´t mean
you of cause, kidklmx, I mean people in general, just to be clear
)
Then there's the tolerance, which is definitely much more severe than with other 5HT2a-agonist psychedelics, which I in itself find kind of sketchy, but also makes it so extremely important to only dose it once, and leave at least several weeks between dosing, and also dosing other psychdelics. Because it must make it difficult to gauge the difference between a good satisfying non-lethal dose, and what is a fatal one, because it's dependent on you tolerance.
Of cause, this is all basic for taking NBOMe's "
safer"
