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Diagnosed; prevent this from happening to you!

if i found out my girl had HPV i would def. dump her...or atleast treat her like shit for a while...and i do love her i just think that shit would make me lose all respect for her


Considering the extremely high percentage of people that have HPV, it's pretty likely you and your girlfriend have already contracted the virus. Good luck with that.



And Lauren, I'm glad to hear everything is looking up for you. Thanks for sharing your story. <3
 
It's outrageous that they made you wait two weeks for the results of your tests. What the fuck is wrong with our medical system that it makes someone wait so long for such an important result??

I hope everything works out OK. <3
 
"...the city I live in is full of people who try too hard"
that's a great way of describing broward/ft liquordale. when i lived there i thought it had to be the most fake place in the universe.
thanks for posting your story and i hope everything works out ok.
iz
 
CIN3 [high grade] HPV cells were discovered inside of me last year too. It's incredibly common for young women to develop them, having had the immunisation shot or not. I had already had all three but the cells still developed.

I'm lucky that I live in Australia and I have private health-care. This meant that my procedure came to a little over $500, and I could be fit into the Gyno's schedule pretty much straight away.

It's an uncomfortable procedure but it is definitely worth having done to know you're cancer free.

It was a horribly scary time for myself and my family but we got through it OK. I'll be having 6-monthly pap smears for the next few years until we're sure it's not coming back, but for now I'm in the clear.


Also, I have one more thing to add: you really can't prevent anyone from getting HPV. Even if you wear condoms every single time you can still develop them. You will most likely be blissfully aware until they show up on a pap smear result one year. Like PI, I didn't have warts either.
This is one reason why it is so important to have regular smears, girls! It can be a life or death situation. <3
 
That trolling post was just ridiculous. It doesn't belong in this thread, when Lauren and other posters need support.

Oh, and I wish people would read all posts in the thread before posting. As Futurepig explained and supported with external links (thanks, fp - your posts in these threads are always well-informed, intelligent, and supportive), the body has the ability to supress and even eradicate the virus in most cases. HSV is the one that fluctuates between dormant and active for the rest of one's life - not HPV.

Lauren; take pride in the fact that you are taking action and getting this taken care of. You are a very strong woman, and I think you are handling this very well. As others have argued, I really think you should find another doctor. Your doctor should never make you feel the way this one has made you feel, especially at a time like this!

Stay strong, keep us posted, and keep fighting!
 
CIN3 [high grade] HPV cells were discovered inside of me last year too. It's incredibly common for young women to develop them, having had the immunisation shot or not. I had already had all three but the cells still developed.

I'm lucky that I live in Australia and I have private health-care. This meant that my procedure came to a little over $500, and I could be fit into the Gyno's schedule pretty much straight away.

It's an uncomfortable procedure but it is definitely worth having done to know you're cancer free.

It was a horribly scary time for myself and my family but we got through it OK. I'll be having 6-monthly pap smears for the next few years until we're sure it's not coming back, but for now I'm in the clear.


Also, I have one more thing to add: you really can't prevent anyone from getting HPV. Even if you wear condoms every single time you can still develop them. You will most likely be blissfully aware until they show up on a pap smear result one year. Like PI, I didn't have warts either.
This is one reason why it is so important to have regular smears, girls! It can be a life or death situation. <3

almost exactly my story except mine was first discovered when i became pregnant. it started out low and progressed into high grade soon after i gave birth (no warts here either). it's been 2+ years now and everything is fine, i can now go back to yearly pap smears instead of bi-annual. it's definitely a huge relief.

 
I have HPV, have had to have a few procedures (the freezing of the cells and the cutting of the cells) to remove cancerous cells. All things considered, what I thought was a absolutely horrible, disgusting, degrading thing became something that doesn't even effect me emotionally any more.

I found out when I was pregnant, so any procedures had to hold off until after I had my daughter. So 5 years later, I still have HPV (I know someone mentioned that the virus can basically go away after awhile) but I have not had to have any cells removed in awhile, but do need to go for another checkup.

You also mentioned that you never wanted to be with someone again... hunny dont think that way! My boyfriends knows I have it, and he never, EVER has looked down on me. Those that look down on you dont deserve you. Keep your head up, I know if sucks but believe me, there IS light at the end of the tunnel.

Please feel free to PM me if you ever want to talk. I am open to my experiences and have an open ear and heart to talk about yours. Keep your head and heart up, things will be okay :)
 
oh lauren, I am so sorry you have one of those judgmental all about the money doctors. I suffered at the hands of a doctor like that for 2 years. I found another doc and had the surgery i needed 16 days after my first appt w/ her. she saved my life imo. I had endometriosis w/ adhesions, ovarian cysts, etc., etc. I wasn't facing cancer like you but I was in so much pain and bleeding constantly, I was ready to jump off a damn bridge.
if you feel disrespected and/or uncomfortable, please find another doc. I know that's easier said than done in your area but seriously, be persistent until you find another doc. NO ONE has the right to judge and disrespect you about a medical issue.
that said, there will always be an asshole or 3 who say and do stupid things everywhere you interact w/ people.

at 18 you've been through a lot but I think you're stronger than you know. hope you're feeling a bit better, hang in, don't let idiots get to you. if ever you need to vent, don't hesitate to PM me anytime.

and thank you again for starting this important thread. a lot of great links and info have been posted.

iz
 
First off, good luck lauren. Surgery sucks ass (i've had more than my fair share at age 24), but it's all for the better. Hopefully all your future paps will come out negative! :)

But I would just like to tack on here, because I've seen a lot of conflicting posts:

1) The HPV vaccine before and after infection

The HPV vaccine (Gardasil or Cervarix) CAN be useful even after you have been diagnosed with an infection leading to warts or cancer. The Gardasil vaccine protects against 4 of the 6 most dangerous (based on frequency of disease in humans) types of the virus, so if you haven't been infected with the other 3 yet, you are getting protection against those. The vaccine CAN ALSO protect from the development of precancerous lesions/cancer EVEN IF YOU ARE ALREADY INFECTED, it is simply less effective (about 44% effective if considering only strains 16 and 18, the two most linked to cervical cancer, and down to about 17% when considering all strains that can cause cancer). Most studies have shown that the vaccine is almost 100% effective in women that have never been infected with any strain, and up to around 20% effective in women that have been infected with at least one strain. The Cervarix vaccine only protects against strains 16 and 18 (the two worst cervical cancer-causing types), and has shown to have some effects against types 31 and 45 as well (also cause cervical cancer).

It is unknown at this point how long the protection lasts, but Cervarix has been shown to be effective for at least 6.4 years, and Gardasil is effective for at least 5. It is unknown if boosters will be needed to confer permanent immunity. Also keep in mind that these immunizations do not work fully (or even at all in some cases) if you don't receive all the necessary shots on the correct schedule. If you do choose to be vaccinated, make sure you stick STRICTLY to the directed regimen. I got my Gardasil shots, almost to the hour, on the exact schedule prescribed, and I recommend everyone else do the same! (And another note on Gardasil - it is anecdotally reported to cause much stronger reactions in people than many vaccines, and I myself had the first adverse reaction of my entire life. After the second shot, I got very woozy for a few hours, but it cleared up before the next day.)

2) Re: HPV vs HSV and what they do - and staying in your system

The herpes simplex virus (HSV-1/cold sores and HSV-2/genital herpes) infects the body and basically burrows into your nerves and can keep living in you in what is called a latent state, where it is basically "asleep" and not replicating. It can live there for the rest of your life, and it can/will keep "waking up" (as in cold sores or genital sores) as a result of many factors like getting other viruses, extreme stress, and even exposure to sunlight. Some people have reactivation much more frequently than others - some people will only ever see one outbreak in their lives, some will see dozens. It is not known if HSV can ever be cleared from the body, but its effects can be weakened with the use of antivirals like Valtrex.

You can also compare this to people who get shingles after having the chicken pox - chicken pox is caused by a herpes virus as well, and that's why the vaccine was such a big deal when it came out, even though chicken pox isn't usually considered a big deal. No one wants a virus living in them forever, especially if there's a chance of reactivation! More than 80% of the US has some kind of herpes infection.

The human papillomavirus (HPV) causes genital warts, precancerous lesions, and cancer. It can lead to cancer of the vagina, vulva, cervix, and anus in women and the penis and anus in men, as well as a form of head and neck cancer in both genders. It can infect the epidermis (skin) and mucous membranes (like in the vagina). The types that cause warts don't cause cancer, and vice versa. The kinds that cause cancer are called "high risk" for genital cancer, and there are at least 12 strains in this category, probably 13 (strain 68 ), with another 5 considered "probably high-risk" (strain 68 is sometimes put here instead). There are 30+ types that are transmitted sexually (and well over a hundred types overall, among which are the viruses that cause "regular" warts), and many have no symptoms. Many people are infected and never know it, because there are no symptoms and the virus is then frequently cleared by the body naturally - 70% of infections are usually gone within one year, and 90% within two years.

However, the issue with HPV is that it can also have a latency period of months or even years - so it is difficult to determine which partner caused the infection - during which the virus actually incorporates itself into your DNA. The viral DNA will remain there as long as the cell keeps replicating and the immune system does not destroy it. This is what causes cancer with the cancer-causing types of the virus - it can mess with the cell's normal cancer-preventing strategies, and the cell will turn cancerous. After the latent phase, the virus goes into an active state where regular disease symptoms will develop (warts, etc.). Some recent research suggests that some people will never clear the virus at all, but that is up for debate, and it is very uncommon even if true.

Keep in mind that there is a 60% chance of transmission from a single episode of sexual contact with an infected person, and a latex condom does not provide complete protection because only skin-to-skin contact is necessary!!!

BE SAFE EVERYONE!
 
I have experienced getting sick by skin contact alone from using a public toilet. At first, I didn't mind the symptoms never thinking it was a form of STD. While I was sick, I came across this site,that helped me understand about STDs that are very common but we are embarrassed to know about. I hope it could help you too. Simple STD Testing
 
Gential warts occur with equal frequency in men as well as women. Genital warts, also referred to as venereal warts, are caused by the Human Papillomavirus (HPV). They are one of the most common sexually transmitted diseases (STD's).
 
I have experienced getting sick by skin contact alone from using a public toilet. At first, I didn't mind the symptoms never thinking it was a form of STD. While I was sick, I came across this site,that helped me understand about STDs that are very common but we are embarrassed to know about. I hope it could help you too. Simple STD Testing

Were you having sex with someone in the public bathroom or on the toilet?

That's the only way you could have gotten HPV or any sort of STD from using a toilet.

As far as the HPV vaccine goes I think it's odd and rather hypocritical that they are only giving it to women since lots of men have HPV and a lot of men get HPV from anal sex and vaginal sex. I've heard how in certain European countries they are giving men the HPV vaccine but they are not doing this in North America.

I've heard that HPV can be transmitted via oral sex or just by sucking cock and that bisexual and gay men are somehow more at risk for getting HPV from sucking cock but I'm not sure if that's true since if this were true you'd have seen a lot more bisexual and gay men getting HPV in their throats and mouths in the 70s and 80s before HIV/AIDS and instead you saw a major increase in anal warts in men who had anal sex then.

It also reaks of propaganda just like how they tried to pin HIV/AIDS as a disease that mainly bisexual and gay men get and some heterosexual people in North America still seem to believe that they're somehow immune to getting HIV or that they are not at risk at all for it, or how they tried to do this with MRSA a few years ago even though it was showing up in hospitals and elementary schools.

I refuse to suck cock with a condom as even the polyurethane ones taste nasty and latex even if it's unlubed or flavored tastes nasty too. I'm also very picky who I suck only doing it to a boyfriend or partner and we talk about our sexual histories and get tested before I give him oral sex and I do not swallow or take cum in my mouth. Precum is a sexual fluid but I make sure I have lots of saliva in my mouth.

I do not see the point in using a dental dam for giving a woman oral sex. I can understand why people would use dental dams or latex barriers for eating ass or rimming.

I actually do practice a form of sex between men that is basically zero risk for HIV but it's high risk for herpes and HPV and that's rubbing/frottage and I don't have HPV or herpes and I've heard of people wearing condoms before doing this but that seems like overkill and pointless. I have one friend that has herpes on his lower back and he's big into rubbing/frottage and he probably got herpes that way on his lower back from it.

I have a friend that did lots of bareback anal sex and lots of oral sex for years with a man and his partner who were his partners as they invited him into their open relationship and the one guy did have herpes and he never gave it to his partner or my friend since if he had an outbreak they would not have sex until it went away. Of course they did get a multiple battery of tests and got re-tested again before deciding not to use condoms with each other.

I do not have HIV or other STDs but I do practice safer sex and I haven't been sexually active with anyone in awhile.
 
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^It's not all a conspiracy man... The HPV vaccine is primarily intended to prevent cervical cancer, not give people carte blanche to fuck because they don't have to worry about warts. It doesn't even protect against several of the strains that cause warts and even cancer. At this point, it's too expensive to even give it to all the girls that need it, so it is not indicated for use in men.
 
i just got back from the doc's. i got a shot in the ass and had to swallow 4 pills. hooray for bad descisions
 
The surgery isnt just to gauge how high risk the pre cancerous cells are, it is also to get rid of them. After this surgery after a while high risk HPV tends to "go dormant".. and this should not happen again. It CAN happen again but usually after the biopsy it's all over.
 
my last partner has a dr's appt monday at 9:30. she had hpv but supposedly it was low risk and never gave her warts and all her paps have been normal for i think a year or more

she didnt tell me she used to have it. and let me raw dog her on her period the first time we fucked (she didnt tell me that either and i couldnt tell something was up until a few minutes in)

bitch

edit: shes going for a pap and to get info on the strain she had if she can.

bitch.
 
also ive been on oral steroids (anabolic, methyl masterdrol) pretty much ever since it went down with her (about 4 weeks ago)

anabolic steroids boost your immune system so maybe my body resisted it.
 
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