TDS Diabetes for Her, Hep-C for Him

greywoodfoxhall

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'ello,

So, I likely have Hep-C. My new girlfriend has Type-1 Diabetes. I know keeping her from getting Hep-C is crucial. I also know that I can't get Type-1 Diabetes from her. But, in reading, I have found if she does get Hep-C from me, she will likely become insulin resistant... bad news bears. I also read that Hep-C can cause you to get Type-2 Diabetes.

Also, how do these diseases effect drug metabolism? With our main blood "cleaning" organs fucked, should we be staying higher longer? Or just failing drug tests longer?

I've been searching for answers yet cannot find any.

Peace&Love,
~F.xy

Edit: BTW, we're IDUs...
 
You'll have to be exceedingly careful not to share any injection equipment. This means cookers, cottons, spoons, etc.

Have separate sharp disposal containers.

Don't even inject close to one another.

And also, consider getting some help so either one or both of you can quit. Injecting drugs isn't something I want to be doing with my life but here I am...
 
With the health concerns you now find yourselves dealing with it is time to clean up. Both of you can have a long and healthy life if you make the correct effort to minimize accelerants that you control. If you are able to honest with yourself then there is no other conclusion. You can do it and be so much happier than you are now.. drugs don't change the world, they just change your perception of the world, and you can do this without the drugs, just have to alter your thinking.. takes less effort than the insane effort needed to maintain addiction, and you will be amazed that you ever lived the way you are now<3<3<3;)

EDIT: the fact that she has to use syringes for the type 1 may seem to be the worst thing ever when thinking of cleaning up, it is however the best thing, trust me I know.. yeah im a type one, don't hide from triggers, take them one at a time slowly and as safe as possible slowly, every time one is overcome, that trigger and all others lose their power!
 
thanks y'all...

i do want to get off the needle. i know it is what will kill me; not the drugs, but the needle. i'm not sure if you've seen my other threads, but i'm the "Staph Infection Guy" (since Spring of 2011 I've had close to 30 cases of cellulitis/abscesses). it's kinda frustrating as it's not that people are saying, "you party too hard! you're gonna OD!" but instead, "you get infections too easy. you're going to go septic and die...."

i need my medication, and have no problem snorting/plugging it (since i get oxymorphone, i'm going to have to taper down to this... my 20mg IR IV a day to my 20mg IR oral a day would be like dropping from 20mg to 2mg thanks to the horrible BA. i also recently discovered that i am addicted to my "baby speedball" combo of oxym&methylphenidate; 5mg of oxym didn't feel good enough by itself. no bueno). my (now ex) claims she needs it to, which, neversickanymore, you can answer my question about this... is Type 1 Diabetes painful? she claims it is.

i have a major needle fetish. i used to cut, but have less than 5 times in the past 5 years thanks to daily multiple injections. i've heard of people just shooting water to deal with the needle fetish. but, this is counterproductive for me... i need to stop the Staph infections; and injecting water or water with oxym&ritty will cause them.

i keep telling myself that if i just can do one last "fireball" (souped-up speedball), i can quit. i know myself, i used to refuse to come inside until i hit a 3-pointer shooting hoops, or landed a heelflip skating, etc., etc. it hasn't snowed around here in half a year though (seriously, how long i have been looking).

i dunno, i don't really want to quit. i just feel like i have to stop shooting up. is recovery possible for me? i'm well versed in recovery talk from so many trips to rehab... so, i know that you have to hit bottom and recover for yourself. does fake it till you make it work?

i'm rambling... thanks for the supportive words y'all.

anyone know about the chemistry/biological effect of my Hep-C though?

thanks,
~f.xy
 
The side effects from type one diabetes can be painful, this is most common in older diabetics, I however have absolutely no pain associated with it YET. Diabetic pain. and having two types of severe nerve pain from the disease I recovered from, but left me with the parting gift of the diabetes, I am all to aware that opiat pain medication in general, as well as other pain medication, has little to no effect on this type of pain.. IMO the comfort people get is from being high, that being said nerve pain is absolutely the worst as it is strong and insanely constant.. didn't fluctuate, no position would provide relief, the more effective pain relievers such as tylenol and nsai did less than nothing.. The only thing that worked for me was methadone dosed every four to eight hours.. the analgesic effects of methadone are only thought to last eight hours although the medication prevents dope sickness for much longer.. I didn't know this until after i kicked, but considering it fits exactly with my experience I have NO doubt it is true... If she is physically dependent on the opiates this may be an option she may want to explore with a pan DR.. she may run into severe hassles with being able to get the medication subscribed as take home given the fact that she will be considered an addict, and unfortunately to get the best results this may be necessary. However if she is able to find a clinic that does the two dose of methadone a day this may be a good option to explore. She will have to really evaluate the benefits of the methadone for her pain as I would rather dtox Oxymorphone three times in a row than detox methadone, its insane half life usually makes just the strong acute withdraws last two weeks 8( 8o

Does the occurrence of the unusual amount of infections correlate with the time you began to inject the ritalin.. If it doesn't then i would bet a hefty sum that although you may have had abscesses before you began to IV the ritalin, they most likely became much more frequent after.. there is an infection that is directly related to the iv of methylphenidate, I will have to look this up and as I'M having no luck finding it on the internet I shall have to go old school and crack the, i think they used to call them books lol, where I know its located.. I think i came across one of your other threads and meant to do this for you but as there is no index on the book it proved to take some effort.. I will do this today.. also the thing with the IV of ritalin that makes it pretty hard to switch back is the fact that it facilitates a much bigger rush.. I believe that ritalin passes through the blood brain barrier much faster than the other amps (except methamp), but because it is absorbed pretty slowly when taken orally, if i remember pretty damn slowly it doesn't produce nearly the rush that the IV does.. where as the other prescript amps do not cross the BB barrier as fast but are absorbed much quicker when taken orally.. thats all off the top of my head so if i am incorrect I would love to know.. but I have a bit of stuff to get done including looking up that ritalin IV infection.. I will hit this thread back as soon as i find that answer.. I am clean off use/abuse that at many times would put HS to shame, I am as happy as i've ever been, if I can get here, so can you, you have nothing but hope!!!!

"don't really want to quit. i just feel like i have to stop shooting up. is recovery possible for me?" if recovery with this degree of happiness, peace and wisdom happened for me it can happen for anyone.. LOL we share some strong using similarities, probably more than we realize, but I just went a little bigger:\ but in making it out I worked my way to a place I thought didn't exist, dont know exactly what the name of that place is but it definettly has one of those ridiculouse rehab names.. we will call it endless sublime harmony of every secound of every day, lol, yeah that doesn't exist and never will and why would i want it to;).. drugs don't change the world, they just change your perception of it, and the thing is you can do that easily with out them, all you have to do is change the way you think.. an I'm not talking the brainwashing rehab changing, although I definitely based a decent portion of the changes in my thought process on ideas they have so it is more than a good idea to explore those concepts when you begin to battle your way out of the woods.. gotta run I will be back.. <3

EDIT:
The infections I would suggest that you may be having are Eiknella infections, it is an organism from the mouth flora or the organisms that are found in your mouth. For some reason the injection of ritalin causes infections buy this organism to become common place. If i were you I would try and take an honest look at what exactly you are getting from adding this to your shots, as I am intimately really familiar with the effect it produces, I would suggest thinking of weather or not the iv administration is worth it, as the rush is really not that good, not bad but really not that good, and that little rush will never be worth the danger and hassle you are going through. It is my opinion that you are not having staph infections but are experiencing infections buy this other organism.. If you still hold onto the idea that this practice is worth it to you then by following some steps you may be able to significantly reduce or possibly stop this occurance..

For every shot you will have to..

Wash hand with decent antiseptic soap before preparing your shots.

Use a brand new needle to inject every time.

Use a sterile spoon or cooker, never have contact with the spoon or cooker to your mouth, it is tempting to clean a spoon that has not needed to be cooked by placing the spoon in our mouths to get any residual left buy the process but this is a very easy way to introduce this organism into the syringe.

Use the proper water, never use water out of a water bottle or anything else that has come in contact with your mouth, or anything you have touched without washing your hands, as we so often place our hands near, around, in our mouths.

Do not place the syringe in your mouth ever, set it down while you tie off.

Use a clean tie and do not hold it in your mouth.

Do not use your mouth to clean blood from an injection sight, do not use saliva to clean an injection site before or after a shot.

Wash your hands prior to handling all pills you IV, do not tip the pill bottle back into your mouth for an oral dosage, don't use your mouth as a place to hold your pill bottles when you need both hands free

Do not suck pills to get the coating off, use a cleaner method.

This along with any other way you can eliminate or sterilize this organism from your injection process, combined with the normal practices including alcohol swabbing the injection site etc etc etc. could have a very positive outcome when it comes to your infections.

Let me know if you have any luck with this.. when you are ready to change your life, realize that it takes a little work, but doesn't take that much time, and is more worth it than you can even imagine. you hit bottom when ever you stop digging, you get better when you make the simple decision to do what ever it takes to climb out and to not stop trying until you make it out, the most important part isn't climbing out, its making the thought and life adjustments that cause you to experience an amazing life, otherwise we have a tendency to conclude that the new life isn't worth it and yell cowabunga, grab a shovel and dive head first back in to get back to work digging. <3

EDIT two: get some listerine and use it as well, this organism is present in all peoples mouths but the combination with IV ritalin does something to cause it to become a major problem.
 
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i dunno, i don't really want to quit. i just feel like i have to stop shooting up. is recovery possible for me?

Yeah, it's possible. It's possible to quit something without wanting to. You can make plans and follow through on them in order to quit what you're doing, even though you still really want to do it.

I would suggest getting back into other life activities that you enjoy that aren't related to drugs. Exercise, sex, meditation, music, hanging out or talking with friends/family, etc. - all of this goes a long way.

You can always PM me if you want to.
 
Shit I had no idea Hep C makes diabetics insulin-resistant. I have Type 1 Diabetes so knowing this is going to make me especially careful in future.
 
Hep C is transmitted via blood. I have never seen anywhere that it make diabetics insulin resistant, but it does damage the liver. The liver does play an important role in regulating blood sugar levels.

No vaginal sex on her period.

No needle sharing.

No straw sharing (snorting).

Silverware pointed down in the dishwasher.

You must not allow your blood to get into hers.


Depending on the phenotype, you got a 40-60% chance of beating Hep C with chemotherapy. I won't lioe. Chemotherapy totally sucks. The doc will know after 12 weeks if it is working or not. But it can be beat. You have to give yourself every chance and that means stop using. Weed is okay.

Chemo whacks the immune system and an infection to be very very serious. It is the best time to be a health nut and eat right and exercise. You would not want to have to stop treatment and start over again. Trust me.
 
The side effects from type one diabetes can be painful, this is most common in older diabetics, I however have absolutely no pain associated with it YET. Diabetic pain. and having two types of severe nerve pain from the disease I recovered from, but left me with the parting gift of the diabetes, I am all to aware that opiat pain medication in general, as well as other pain medication, has little to no effect on this type of pain.. IMO the comfort people get is from being high, that being said nerve pain is absolutely the worst as it is strong and insanely constant.. didn't fluctuate, no position would provide relief, the more effective pain relievers such as tylenol and nsai did less than nothing.. The only thing that worked for me was methadone dosed every four to eight hours.. the analgesic effects of methadone are only thought to last eight hours although the medication prevents dope sickness for much longer.. I didn't know this until after i kicked, but considering it fits exactly with my experience I have NO doubt it is true... If she is physically dependent on the opiates this may be an option she may want to explore with a pan DR.. she may run into severe hassles with being able to get the medication subscribed as take home given the fact that she will be considered an addict, and unfortunately to get the best results this may be necessary. However if she is able to find a clinic that does the two dose of methadone a day this may be a good option to explore. She will have to really evaluate the benefits of the methadone for her pain as I would rather dtox Oxymorphone three times in a row than detox methadone, its insane half life usually makes just the strong acute withdraws last two weeks 8( 8o

Does the occurrence of the unusual amount of infections correlate with the time you began to inject the ritalin.. If it doesn't then i would bet a hefty sum that although you may have had abscesses before you began to IV the ritalin, they most likely became much more frequent after.. there is an infection that is directly related to the iv of methylphenidate, I will have to look this up and as I'M having no luck finding it on the internet I shall have to go old school and crack the, i think they used to call them books lol, where I know its located.. I think i came across one of your other threads and meant to do this for you but as there is no index on the book it proved to take some effort.. I will do this today.. also the thing with the IV of ritalin that makes it pretty hard to switch back is the fact that it facilitates a much bigger rush.. I believe that ritalin passes through the blood brain barrier much faster than the other amps (except methamp), but because it is absorbed pretty slowly when taken orally, if i remember pretty damn slowly it doesn't produce nearly the rush that the IV does.. where as the other prescript amps do not cross the BB barrier as fast but are absorbed much quicker when taken orally.. thats all off the top of my head so if i am incorrect I would love to know.. but I have a bit of stuff to get done including looking up that ritalin IV infection.. I will hit this thread back as soon as i find that answer.. I am clean off use/abuse that at many times would put HS to shame, I am as happy as i've ever been, if I can get here, so can you, you have nothing but hope!!!!

"don't really want to quit. i just feel like i have to stop shooting up. is recovery possible for me?" if recovery with this degree of happiness, peace and wisdom happened for me it can happen for anyone.. LOL we share some strong using similarities, probably more than we realize, but I just went a little bigger:\ but in making it out I worked my way to a place I thought didn't exist, dont know exactly what the name of that place is but it definettly has one of those ridiculouse rehab names.. we will call it endless sublime harmony of every secound of every day, lol, yeah that doesn't exist and never will and why would i want it to;).. drugs don't change the world, they just change your perception of it, and the thing is you can do that easily with out them, all you have to do is change the way you think.. an I'm not talking the brainwashing rehab changing, although I definitely based a decent portion of the changes in my thought process on ideas they have so it is more than a good idea to explore those concepts when you begin to battle your way out of the woods.. gotta run I will be back.. <3

EDIT:
The infections I would suggest that you may be having are Eiknella infections, it is an organism from the mouth flora or the organisms that are found in your mouth. For some reason the injection of ritalin causes infections buy this organism to become common place. If i were you I would try and take an honest look at what exactly you are getting from adding this to your shots, as I am intimately really familiar with the effect it produces, I would suggest thinking of weather or not the iv administration is worth it, as the rush is really not that good, not bad but really not that good, and that little rush will never be worth the danger and hassle you are going through. It is my opinion that you are not having staph infections but are experiencing infections buy this other organism.. If you still hold onto the idea that this practice is worth it to you then by following some steps you may be able to significantly reduce or possibly stop this occurance..

For every shot you will have to..

Wash hand with decent antiseptic soap before preparing your shots.

Use a brand new needle to inject every time.

Use a sterile spoon or cooker, never have contact with the spoon or cooker to your mouth, it is tempting to clean a spoon that has not needed to be cooked by placing the spoon in our mouths to get any residual left buy the process but this is a very easy way to introduce this organism into the syringe.

Use the proper water, never use water out of a water bottle or anything else that has come in contact with your mouth, or anything you have touched without washing your hands, as we so often place our hands near, around, in our mouths.

Do not place the syringe in your mouth ever, set it down while you tie off.

Use a clean tie and do not hold it in your mouth.

Do not use your mouth to clean blood from an injection sight, do not use saliva to clean an injection site before or after a shot.

Wash your hands prior to handling all pills you IV, do not tip the pill bottle back into your mouth for an oral dosage, don't use your mouth as a place to hold your pill bottles when you need both hands free

Do not suck pills to get the coating off, use a cleaner method.

This along with any other way you can eliminate or sterilize this organism from your injection process, combined with the normal practices including alcohol swabbing the injection site etc etc etc. could have a very positive outcome when it comes to your infections.

Let me know if you have any luck with this.. when you are ready to change your life, realize that it takes a little work, but doesn't take that much time, and is more worth it than you can even imagine. you hit bottom when ever you stop digging, you get better when you make the simple decision to do what ever it takes to climb out and to not stop trying until you make it out, the most important part isn't climbing out, its making the thought and life adjustments that cause you to experience an amazing life, otherwise we have a tendency to conclude that the new life isn't worth it and yell cowabunga, grab a shovel and dive head first back in to get back to work digging. <3

EDIT two: get some listerine and use it as well, this organism is present in all peoples mouths but the combination with IV ritalin does something to cause it to become a major problem.


thank you for your words of support. i am done with the girl (she was just using me for my pills) and have a new best-friend (basically my girlfriend, but we find the whole boyfriend/girlfriend concept clique... she isn't a junkie, i only let her use psychedelics, and she knows i have Hep-C and is okay with it... not happy, but she didn't go running...). my best-friend is okay with the fact that i NEED pain medication, but really WANTS me to put the needle down. but, she is okay with me having one "Shooting Day" a month; that makes quitting seem much more feasible.

as far as my infections go, i recently found out that Mirtazipine (brand name: Remeron) can cause an increased risk of infections. i got my first staph infection while in the psych ward and starting Remeron. it is one of the only psych meds to help me, so it sucks, but i think i may be screwed if i keep taking it and shooting. i get my "final fix" here this week or next week and am coming off the needle. once that is done, i hope the infections will stop and i will be able to stay on Remeron.

which leads into my next question... i am going to stay on my Oxymorphone, but only take it using ROAs that don't involve syringes. would i be better off cold-turkey'ing off the needle, or tapering off it? i will then be plugging or snorting my Oxymorphone. if anyone knows which one is the more efficient ROA, i can't find much info about it.

thanks to everyone for the advice and support!

peace&love,
~f.xy
 
Hey fox I just got diagnosed hep c today while in hospital for MRSA abscess in my leg. I'm really scared tbh how are u faring? The doc said there are many treatments possibly even a so called cure. Plz get back to me
 
Hey therealog,

Sorry for just getting back to you... I got Necrotizing fasciitis a month (or so, it's a blur) back and currently have no fat, dermis, or epidermis on my left calf with muscle and tendon exposed from my upper ankle to lower knee on the back/inner side of my leg. It covers an area of 36cm x 8cm. So, I've been distracted...

But, as far as the Hep-C goes... Do you have Acute or Chronic Hep-C? Did they test you for the antigens or the virus? There is a cure, but it doesn't work for everyone and if you suffer from depression, the medication used will make it real bad and so it isn't an option.}

Don't despair though... You will likely not see any effects from the Hep-C until later in life. By then, a cure for all should exist. Just don't drink, don't take NSAIDs except for Naproxen (perfect excuse to get off Percocets and get Rx'ed to Roxy or Oxymorphone IR if you're in pain management!), and don't smoke weed daily (according to my Hep-C doctor, I want to look into that more since I get off probation in three days).

You need to make sure to not spread the Hep-C though. Always warn other people of the fact you have it if y'all are doing drugs together. If you are snorting or shooting anything, make sure to use your own gear. If someone is insistent on using your gear, clean it with alcohol or bleach (just a warning, bleach only kills Hep-C, not HIV). If someone wants a rinse that you used your gear to get the initial shot from, boil water, then put the shot in a clean rig and the rig in a Ziploc bag. Place the Ziploc bag with the rig in it into the boiling water for 5 minutes, then cool it in the freezer. This SHOULD kill the Hep-C, but only resort to it when dealing with someone insistent on doing your rinse, not as a habit. Avoid making blood oaths with people (dark humor, sorry...). Avoid sexual contact that may resort in an exchange of blood. Hep-C only became classified as a STD in the 1990s... my theory is that was due to an acceptance of homosexuality by society. Anal sex that I've had with girls has usually involved some blood, so it makes sense in my mind that anal sex made Hep-C a STD. Sex while a girl is on her period and a guy has an open wound on his dick can result in transmission as well though. Semen does not carry Hep-C though. It is a BLOOD-BORNE VIRUS only. Just be safe though... I know you wish someone had bothered to care before giving to you...

Also, there are several genotypes/phenotypes of Hep-C out there (strains basically)... So, don't use the logic, "I'm positive, you're positive... Let's share a needle!" You will just make things worse for yourself potentially.

Peace&Love,
~f.xy

P.S.- Send me a PM if you want!
 
I beat hep C.. the sooner you start treatment the better the chances. Also if you start when "acute", treatment duration is 6 months, instead of a full year. This means less side effects. Look into it.
 
welcome to the club mate!, sux and hurts someday. to answer your questions from expirence no you do not get higher or for longer (lol spewin!!), ive noticed my U.T's are dirty for alot longer then used to be not sure if thats just getting on in age or the hep doing its thing..,
any q's inbox me matey hep-c scary at 1st then life adjusts around it your little rituals will develep (for me cooking with latex gloves, using alot more disinfectant and IV equiptment rituals will develop if your that way inclined to IV please be fucking carfull and dont arse fucking the missus anymore spreads it...remember i said don't do the missus didnt say ya ex haha) uhmmm yeh sociopathic tweaker with hep-c embrace or disgrace u decide? peace mate ---ISER.EDT'S.FFC's.
 
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