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Dextroamphetamine + Clonazepam + Hydrocodone + Morning Glory's -Synergized Balance

Tokerman

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I've been wanted to try this combination for awhile now as I have experienced each of these individual drugs separately and maybe with one other. The idea was not to get "fucked up", but to strike a balance between all for the substances to create a synergized balance in moderation.

Settting: A good friends house

Drugs:

Dextroamphetamine - 35mgs (Experienced)
Clonazepam - 3mgs (Experienced)
Hydrocodone - 22.5mgs (Experienced)
Morning Glory Seeds '150 seeds' - (Semi-Experienced)

Dosing and experience:

T 0:00 - My idea was to begin slowly on each item and work my way into a nice balance between all the items so that one thing didn't over power the other. I didn't want the speed to completely ruin the Hydro or the clonazepam to short circuit the MGS, etc. The goal was to reach, in small portions, a completely balanced experience. 15mgs Dextro - 1mg Clonazepam begins my journey. I wanted to use the K-pins to help with any anxiety and jitteriness of the substances and act as a balance from within.

T+ :30 Feel the normal effects of the pins and dextro coming on. Loss of appetite, easier time breathing, enjoyment playing a pc game I was doing. The pins worked perfect, no anxiety, paranoia or the like at this point. Dose 75 MGS's in addition to another 5mg of dextro.

(side note on MGS dosing. I find it very, very useful to eat the seeds by grinding them within a coffee grinder until a fine powder then place in a chocolate milkshake and drink. Very easy on the stomach and taste)

T + 1:00 Feeling very good although a little anxiety is begining to creep in. Colors look sharper, items take on a very detailed appearance and lights seem brighter. No full scale trip, which is not what I was looking for. So far, the speed has not interfered with the MGS's. decided it was time for the hydro, 15mg's to start and another 1/2 mg of k-pin.

T + 1:30 Begging to peak on the first speed dose, very nice feeling of well being and alert attention. NO ANXIETY! The opiate high, although very mild is noticeable. The MGS's are a bit more intense, but nothing even close to even a moderate trip. Just a happy feeling. Eat last 75 MG seeds.

T + 2:00 In control, complete control. Opiate high very noticeable (no opiate tolerance) One good thing is opiates usually make me very nauseous, however no nausea is noticed. Ate a good dinner beforehand and have been drinking lots of fluids. Seeds have kicked into a mild trip, bright lights, crisp detail, introspective look into the world. But ALL IN CONTROL. No anxiety, no paranoia just calm bliss at a low level.

T + 2:15 Take final 15 mg's on dextro, 1/2 mg of K-pin and last 7.5mg of the hydrocodone. The feeling, I think it could be best describe as content, happy to be alive and happy to be with a good friend.

T +2:45 Very euphoric feeling rushing throughout my body and not just physical either. Each drug continues to be noticeable as a separate effect, neither one or the other overriding or killing the effects of any. The MGS are in full swing, tripping about a 2 on a scale of 1-5. No OVE's or CEV's to speak of, but more a mental beautiful mind game. The dextro's job of alertness and sense of well being kicked in full gear. I feel in control, I feel confident, I want to talk a lot. The K-pins are working just as planned, keeping any form of anxiety at arms distance. I had about 3mg sitting next to me if I felt the need to terminate the trip. The beauty of them was it was as if a bucket of warm wet cement had been poured over my head, yet not feeling tired in slightest. The Hydrocodone high is very noticeable , very relaxing, swimming in a sea of warm fluid. Each one doing their job, neither hiding the effects of the other.

T +3:30 The only way to describe how I feel is euphoric. Mentally happy, alert and in control. Physically warm, slight buzz relaxed to the nth degree. spiritually as if I am 10 years old again running through a field of tall grass on a warm, sunny summer morning. No thoughts of any problems within my life, no anxiety of "what have I done to myself", still able to talk and communicate as if I am relatively sober. But....I feel very much loved up, much like an MDMA loved up feeling.

The effect of synergy are noticed. Even though I can feel each drug do its job in a different role, I can feel the enhancements of each working in conjunction of the other. The speed allows me to focus on the detail and color of objects from the MGS's. The K-pins relax and seduce me to feel not one once of anxiety from the MGS' or Speed. The Opiates keeping me warm, almost like it was telling my mind, its ok to wonder, your body is safe and sound.

T +5:00 I have peaked and begun to descend. All I can think about is how I don't want this to end. I don't want this feeling to end. I thought I would describe it as an MDA or MDMA experience, but I cant. Even though it has many of the same aspects and feelings of XTC, its different, in its own special way.
This has to be my favorite experience in my short time using drugs. Better then MDMA? For me, yes. I felt in control, in complete bliss euphorically, but not euphoric in the sense of laying on the floor out of touch with reality. I was always there, always alert, always in control. It didn't have the tactile or sense enhancement that MDMA had, but I believe spiritually, I gained a new insight into my psyche that I never have with any XTC or any other psychedelic.

I think this is due to the feeling from within, that I was in control and I allowed myself to be in the moment, if you know what I mean. I'd have a thought about something, and instead of feeling out weather or not I should be anxious about it, I just focused on the thought itself, looking at the positive side of what was and what could be. I really think I have been able during this experience to deal with some of the anxiety and depressing issues I face in my daily life head on, with no regret or fear.

T +6:00 Pop last 1mg of K-pin to relax me enough to try and sleep. The speed is beginning to come down, however the usually feeling of being cracked out isn't there! The opiates, although still noticeable have subsided. The MGS's have peaked and now is taking my spirt back in for a nice smooth landing.

Unable to sleep right now 8 hours after the event beginning, and not because I am not tired, but because I am excited about what was and what can be. Many ideas surfaced mentally and spiritually that have made me look at things differently.

The key to this was moderation and slow dosing. I doubt I would have had such an insightful, beautiful journey had I just plunked all the items into my body at once. Balance and moderation are the key. You don't need to get fucked up or tripping balls to experience a truly happy moment and allow the yourself to enjoy the moment.

Sorry for the length, hope you enjoyed reading 1/10th as much I had with the experience. This is definitely something I will try again, but not anytime soon. I think I would have increase the MGS another 20 or so seeds and maybe added another 5mg of dextro. Besides that, perfect as perfect feeling can be. Synergy is a beautiful word.
 
Sounds interesting, though I would never mix a psychedelic with Amphetamines or even Caffeine for that matter. However, the only thing I see strange is that you mixed Amphetamines with Clonazepam. What was the purpose in that? One drug is stimulating you, and the other is counteracting the stimulation. I would have used the Clonazepam later if I did choose to do this particular combination. I mean, I understand your intentions, but the Clonazepam would have kept me from getting high from the Amphetamine.
 
Yea, I normally wouldnt mix a psychedelic with an amphetamine, thats why I tried it in such a low dose. I found it didnt increase any of the negative effects, mainly cause I have Clonazepam in my system.

I think you'll find a lot of people who take prescription amphetamines find a weird yet ironicly effective synergy from the combination. It does take a bit more amphetamine to produce the higher level of stimulation, but the clonazepam helps reduce the negatives. I am guessing both drugs work on different receptors in the brain allowing the synergized effect.
 
Well, I have both Amphetamines and Clonazepam in my possesion, so maybe I'll try it myself. I mean, it can't hurt anything, so I might as well see if there is any form of synergy.
 
Out of interest, are you experienced in Clonazepam by it's intended use, or recreational form?
 
You are probably directing this at Tokerman, but as far as I go, I use Clonazepam mainly to sleep after taking Amphetamine for ADD and to relieve anxiety once in a while. I have mild Tourette's Syndrome, and the Clonazepam seems to help with that as well.
 
^ actually, i like to know about our tr regulars, so your input is quite appreciated :)
 
I am very experinced with Clonazepam as it was prescribed to me over two years ago for anxiety and panic attacks. I find it a must have when experimenting with any new drug combo, especially psychedelics.
 
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