Desperate to Quit - Looking for Advice/Support

kRaC

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Hey guys, so here's my story.

I've been dabbling with opiates for a few years now, the majority of that time being recreational use for the most part. However the past year and a half I've been consumed by these little blue bastards (Oxycodone 30mg). I take between 90mg-150mg a day, which leaves me completely broke and usually puts me in the position of stealing money from family. I know in extreme cases addicts will steal hundreds of dollars, if not thousands, from family members, while I'll take $40-$90 at a time; the number doesn't ease my guilt at all, stealing is stealing and I've always considered thieves, liars and cheaters to be the lowest of the low. Funny how this drug has made me both a thief and a liar. The fiend has put such a strain on my personal relationships, and puts me in the position of having to lie to those I care for the most.

I have an absolutely amazing girlfriend, who knows I've had problems with addiction in the past but believes I've been sober for almost two years, and also the most amazing family a guy could ever ask for. My aunt and uncle have recently approached me discreetly, informing me that they know what I've been up to. This uncle has just gotten me an incredible job for the union, which requires random drug testing, and he very bluntly told me that if I screw up this job and tarnish his name in the union, I am cut off from both my aunt and my uncle, and their three children (the youngest, 5, being my godson). Family means the world to me, but this disease has such a grasp on me that the thought of losing my family isn't enough.

To try and wrap this up, I'd do anything to stop. I've tried stopping before, sometimes successfully for a few weeks or a few months, but this last go around I just can't seem to shake it. Every day I wake up saying "No pills today," and a few hours later I have two blues lined up in front of me. My biggest obstacle/fear isn't the physical withdrawal, but the emotional state I'm left in afterwards. The last time I quit opiates I went through 4 or 5 days of withdrawal, and fell into a deep depression that lasted until my relapse about a month and a half, two months later. Once I stop taking opiates, I seem to be a shell of the person I was before; my emotions are gone, except for sadness and hopelessness. Nothing makes me smile, nothing brings me joy. I spend my time on the computer or just staring into an empty abyss.

I need help, please anyone with advice leave a comment, some tips or suggestions on what I can do to finally quit for good and actually start my life the way I was meant to. Thank you for all you feedback.

-kRaC
 
Hey kRaC,

welcome to bluelight at first! :)

Unfortunately this is not that well established yet, but there are pharmacological ways to modulate the opioid receptors, possibly reversing(!) the tolerance you currently have, leading to a restoration of normal endogenous endorphin and dopamine neurotransmission. I've done that and it truly worked for me, as well as for quite some others by anecdotal reports (as well as studies even with human trials). My tolerance wasn't as high as yours, but in comparison you don't seem to be that high either and when you're able to stand the physical withdrawal, then I'd say your chances are good! And while I'm still somewhat sensitized to opioids but I don't have any cravings or PAWS at all.. indeed, I hate opioids now (I might have some weird genetics that make me a partial non-responder, but the physical side was and is real)

Problem is, as said, it's experimental. How educated are you when it comes about drugs / meds / pharmacology?
The very best way maybe is the prescription NMDA antagonist memantine. If you can afford it, it's available cheap and sometimes without Rx as an Indian generic. This can be combined with the cough suppressant dextromethorphan in really low dosages (like those used against cough). It won't take you high, but it will make this hopelessness, depression and cravings go away - possibly with a good part of the withdrawal itself, if you dose right. Clonidine or the OTC sleep aid doxylamine can be a good thing for the first days too. Loperamide of course,but maybe it isn't even necessary.

Possible that after some weeks you'll wonder why the hell you took these opiates that long..!
With some searching for "NMDA antagonist for opioid tolerance" or "attenuate opioid dependence" etc. you'll find some interesting material. Or I can link you some more later.

-dopamimetic
 
OP I'm in your same boat bro, I went through about a year and a half heavy oxy use, then subutex for almost 3 years then clean for a couple years now I'm back to it and I can't seem to shake it this time...i did a super long slow taper off the subs when I finally jumped (was taking a fucking tiny crumb every morning), I was about halfway through p90x, and I had zero symptoms

I am convinced that heavy hard exercise is the key to successfully kicking it and keeping a good happy frame of mind.

I'm currently at about half an 1mg a day suboxone right now and lifting weights four days a week, hoping to jump off completely in the next week...

I think subs are good for buying you some time, getting you feeling somewhat "normal" and then strict tapering, but u gotta exercise...

Now I have to fix all the financial damage I've done somehow but that is a whole nuther story
 
Exercise is clutch indeed. The harder you can push it the better because those natural endorphins work wonders on your body and mind when going through withdrawals
 
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