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Derealization and Anxiety after MDMA

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This is going to be a very lomg post and i apologize, but here we go.

So back on December 21st i decided to try MDMA. I took .3 grams total. It was amazing. Such a fun roll and had the time of my life. 3 weeks later i went to the club and took .2 grams. It was an okay roll but the DJ sucked so it wasnt to much fun. On January 25th, i decided to take .2 grams of molly at a rave, then i dropped a hit of acid. My roll took the whole trip, but when i stopped rolling, i started my acid trip. I really wasnt expecting anything to crazy, and thats where i was wrong. I didnt hallucinate much at first, all i was seeing was beautiful distorted colors and shit. Then we left the rave and went to smoke a few blunts. As we walked out the rave, the image of the rave slowly went to the back of my mind and it was like i had eyes 20 feet begind me and i seen everything from that far back. This is where i realized i was gunna start tripping. We got in the car and started driving and smoking. I didnt realize this was gunna up my trip. My friend played Danny Browns Blunt After Blunt to keep me in a good mindset cause im a huge Danny Brown and Kanye fan. I just had a huge body high here and really enjoyed myself. Than we picked up a friend and i looked at the radio and all of the buttons came out and were dancing for me. It was like they did it for my entertainment. Then i looked at glowsticks on the ground and they were moving like snakes by my feet. This started making me feel really uncomfortable. My friend had said something to me and i looked over at him and his face fucking melted off his body! I looked at everyone else in the car and their faces melted as well and i just wanted to go home. So to try and make this a little shorter, my trip wasnt really good and i was freaked out by it. I rolled with .2 one more time on Valentines day this year. My roll was good until we left and smoked and i started feeling really uncomfortable. I started having an anxiety attack. I didnt realize what it was though. I went home and woke up the next day feeling fine. On Febuary 20th, i woke up feeling out of it, like kind of spacey. I had am anxiety attack Febuary 22nd and had to go to the hospital. Today is April 20th, and i stillfeel out of it. The only progression ive seen is that my anxiety is a little more controllable, ive been excercising 3-4 times a week, i take kolonopin when i need it, i take htp-5, and i been trying to stay busy. I read forums all the time because i love the positive feedback and knowing that people have gone through this to. I just want to know if anyones experienced this and if theyve came out of the derealization. I hate self-diagnosing myself but im positive i have derealization. What do you guys think i should do and what will happen?
 
Welcome to our site. This isn't really a good basis for an FAQ or wiki entry. I'm moving it to MDMA and Entactogen Discussion.

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Welcome to the club. You say that you've read on the forums, so I guess you've been reading the comedown threads in MED (MDMA & Empathogenic Drugs)? There are plenty of people who have gotten anxiety and DP/DR from MDMA use, myself included. The probability of recovering completely from those specific symptoms is very high, you just have to ride it out for however long it's gonna take.

I would ditch the 5-HTP as it can cause some imbalances itself if taken for too long continuously. Start taking a multi + fish oil and start exercising.

Edit: Obviously you should stay completely sober from everything until you are absolutely sure that you have recovered. Alcohol, weed and even caffeine can be detrimental to recovery.
 
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Yea just stay away from the mdma and keep a healthy lifestyle and ride it out until then, you WILL get back to normal :)
 
@ScaredFirstTimer Have you fully recovered from everything? If so how long did it take and did you use medication? Im going to be put on Lexapro real soon. I have Kolopin for my anxiety but i try to not take it. @CDilly93 Thanks i really appreciate it.
 
You'll be fine. I got nasty DR after misusing molly. It took about 9 months to fully go away. Check out CBT and mindfulness.
 
Month 10 starts today mate and i'm still standing strong. I felt almost completely fine last week and though i really made progress, until I decided to stay in a domed out room for too long and psyched myself into thinking I got a second hand high (I used to be a sick stoner but pot makes me bug out now). The anxiety really sucks right now, but I've noticed a pattern. I'll have a bad week or two and then feel a lot better than I have before the bad week. Exercising is probably a good idea. Personally, I can't exercise because physical excursion initiates my panic attacks. From what I read online, it's shown to significantly help with anxiety and depression. Like Scaredfirstimer said, ditch the 5htp. Ditch all artificial serotonin products and stick to natural remedies. One big heads up, stay away from ALL drugs. They tend to either stall the recovery process or exacerbate it. I don't really know what to expect for my future, granted there's not much information to go on, but I'm staying positive and hoping for full recovery. I'm going to take a guess and say somewhere around the 1-year mark. I wish the best for you man.
 
@Dawglaw thanks man i really appreciate that. @necrotyx Wow, it sounds like you really got it worse than i do. I do see small small improvements but not to often. I know you guys say ditch the htp-5, but i think its kind of a mental thing now. I take them and they i feel like they help but it could be mental. I woke up one day after taking 3 in one day (morning, middle of day, before bed) and literally woke up feeling a 30% better state and later in the day it went back to the hazy feeling. Im really trying to stay strong man, ans i do notice im in better moods during sunny/ warmer days. I appreciate you taking the time to reply man good luck to you to.
 
I'm no doctor, but in light of every recovery report I've read on this site I think it safe to say that you should at least wait with the lexapro. Your anxiety/depression is atypical in the sense that you've fucked with your serotonin system, and upping the level of serotonin in the synapse doesn't seem to the the most effective thing for us, at least not this early in your "comedown". Meaning that in the worst case scenario you could be taking something that won't help your anxiety, and possibly even be detrimental to your recovery.

There are so many stories of people getting rid of all anxiety from 3-12 months, so I would just hang in there.
 
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If you need a SSRI don't hold yourself back. I am in the camp that a recreational dose of MDMA cannot damage the serotonin system to the extent some people claim. I am not a doctor bit I have been through both sides of a come down and have the benefit of hindsight.
 
Hey man, I've recently got MDMA-induced anxiety too. Absolutely sucks, I can't spend a minute without thinking I've done damage to my brain. (unless I watch BBC Sherlock hahaha) I went to the doctors today and he basically just told me to relax as he said I've got too much stress going on. I've been put on the CBT waiting list (which is going to take months, when I'm probably all good), the biggest problem is that I'm just getting real depressed that I'm not feeling any better after a month and a half, although I think I'm beginning to just get over it. I only took around 100mg too, I think I'm just extra-sensitive to MDMA.

I'm on 7 weeks.
 
Based on your description of the events, if I may paraphrase: Two times you ingested MDMA, everything was fine, you smoked marijuana, and only then did things start to go south. I'm kind of surprised no one noticed this but the common factor between your two stories seems to be the weed.

My vote is that's the problem.
 
@thejibberman Hey man you honestly sound like you have it worse than me. Honestly, i get anxiety in weird situations, like when i go kind of far from home. The doctor only put me on kolonopim and i took htp-5 for awhile and it kind of helped me. The biggest problem i have now the derealization. CBT does help ( im in a psych class right now so i know alot about this stuff) but takes 8-12 months to help reshape the brain. Medication works in 6-8. I also go to the gym as well. The derealization is the only factor that sucks bad, idk if you have that as well. Just try to stay busy man because im 2 months in and it HAS gotten better but it takes awhile.
 
@wicked702 ive taken mdma 4 times in 2and a half months and acid the 3rd time i rolled on top of the mdma. I smoked marijuana for awhile to so i know that didnt help alot. Thanks for the feedback i truly appreciate it
 
@dawglaw @comfortablynumb95 @scaredfirsttimer Thanks for your guys feedback, i appreciate it. I stopped htp-5 and i been staying busy and feel ok just derealization bad still. Im still going to try lexapro and if i notice anything bad than im gwtting right off of it. I have noticed an increase but i have a little anxiety now. Thanks guys
 
@thejibberman I feel what you said about being sensitive to it. I had uncontrollably anxiety for a while after taking what I thought was a small amount, even got some anxiety towards the end of my roll

no one got why I was the only one still feeling stuff a couple of weeks afterwards
I quit everything, exercised a lot, tried to get over the out of it feeling
turned out I had a pretty bad magnesium deficiency which affects a lot more than you'd realize, including muscle aches, focus, even anxiety


all the doctors wanted to put me on meds but I noticed positive changes slowly so I didn't want any more chemicals to mess up my balance
I thought I'd never feel normal again but now I'm completely back to normal, not a panic attack since
 
@suwanee So you dont ever have anxiety anymore and you completely feel back to normal? You dont feel out of it anymore?
 
I would recommend you don't get on a SSRI. Let me your mind heal itself naturally with the aid of supplements like a multi-vitamin, B-Complex, Magnesium, and Fish Oil. If you are still suffering a year later then think about it.
 
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