15YrAddictClean
Greenlighter
I am writing this thread of my experience in detail, for those who are stuck and just don't have the meds or the understanding how easy it is to beat ALL withdrawl symptons quickly. There was and is only one problem though......
I STARTED getting hooked on Nurofen plus (ibuprofen 300mg? and 12.8mg Codine), because I had restless legs.
I had a tooth ache and was introduced to Nurofen Plus. 4 a day and no pain. So while learning Skydiving 15 years ago, I was taking 4 a day for at least a year. Worked a charm.
Once I stopped taking them and got my teeth fixed, I just didn't think of them again. Over the next year or two I would use them if I had any other teeth pain (wisdom etc) on the odd occassion.
Stopped using them again and then started kicking my legs around while trying to sleep. This started happening every night and was a big painful problem. Not Pain Pain, but strange pain.
So I started taking Nurofen plus again. 4 a day, lead to 6 a day, to 12, to 14 and before you know it over the past 8 years it built up to 15 first thing in the morning, to 15 again at night, then lead to 20-30 at once and for a couple of months i could be on 30-60 of these a day. I was on at least between 12 and 60 a day from 2009-last september.
I always read these forums for advice, but always found myself with new ways to get higher, mainly because i would come to read for support, but Id find new things to minimize my intake but get the higher feelings. I have always had a bad tendancy for living life like that, hence having 5000+ skydives and 672 Base jumps and more recently focused on proximity flying. Google Youtube Proximity Flying and watch the perfect line video. You will love it, I assure you.
Anyway, I went to an addiction to medicine clinic centre, and they couldnt detox me as an outpatient so they put me on oxycontin OC 80mg twice a day. That was magic. no pain, could taste food again and live life to the fullest and beyond.
Went through a few bottles of xanax without knowing it, blacking out and all that and realised i was getting into some really hard stuff and my interest was growing. I then realised it was getting harder and harder and very hard to get oxy, and then even hard to get the norspan patches i had been put on after oxy.
I then realised thinking every single day about how I will next get my next script when this one runs out, I just had to stop this crap. Mainly because doctos give it to you then take it away, then speak to other doctors at cancer balls, or fundraising dinners etc and they all talk about getting me on methadone.
So I thought I was going to go cold turkey. Got drunk first night, no worries. Lasted 4 days, and then went and bought 30 nurofen plus and scoffed them down.
After a few weeks of being a complete loser again I said to myself this was it, I'm never touching pain meds again.
So I went to an after hours clinic, because they are just so eager to help and prescribe what you say you need.
I asked for clonodine, and got 100 tablets of 0.1
Easy stuff to be prescribed when you tell them you want to go straight. Also got 20 5mg valium, but i wasnt bothered for those because no matter how many of them i have , they just give me a head ache from past experience.
First night I cant remember taking any meds, but I woke up with ten 0.1 clonodine tablets empty from the blister pack, and I had a great sleep and had no issues that day. I then read the label and took the suggested 1 tablet, three times a day. I went to a local GP, told him I was trying to get sober and he gave me a packet of 50 valium 5mg. , Another gp gave me 20 valium 5mg. I could not give a stuff about them, but i was trying to get clomazepam, and valium was what they would give me.
So this packet of 100 catapres tablets (clonodine) should have lasted 2 weeks. It lasted 10 days.
Probably went to the after hours clinic four times for blood pressure checks etc. on a good feeling day my BP was 86. That tells me the prior day it must have been around 60 because i would be falling and dizzy at all times.
Anyway, they wouldnt give me more clonodine, but prescribed me APPESE which is Roipinole, which is a Parkinsons disease drug and is also a restless legs drug.
From day two of my no more pain meds, I had no symptons, but a little bit of restless legs. So this appesse drug I used seemed to work. The dossage was 0.5 but i would take 2mg. I also got another packet of Colonodine 100.
First six days I ate nothing but two buckets of baskin and robins ice cream a day.
Here I am todayon day 23 or something like that with no withdrawls ever. No sweats, not even the runs. No hot and cold, no aches, and the chronik back pain i believed i had , I havent felt in these 23 days. guess I dont have back pain. Thats a bit strange but i put it down to withdrawl symptons and needing to redose the codine or the oxy. Must have been a sympton.
Restless legs is the worst sympton to live with that Ive ever experienced, and i havent had it for about 18 days, but now im on this lrestless leg drug appese, im getting restless legs when I am sitting down or relaxing, and getting it severe.
So I am trying not to have any meds at start of the day. In my arsenal is temazepam, which i havent touched, this appesse (roipinole)-(costs <snip - no med prices please> for 28 as not covered by govt), and clonodine.
So each day latley with guests over ive been walking around all day with no restless legs, but after 12ish hours, i am worn out, go home and the restless legs kick in badly. so im trying a different thing each day because i wonder if this appese stuff is actually doing it to me, or if lowering my BP with clonodine is giving me not enough BP in my legs, OR if I just suffer restless legs sydrome.
While addicted to opiates, I would always redose the moment i felt my legs tingle and if i didnt, within an hour i would be in the worst pain of my life with restless legs. Now though, I dont have it like that, but it is sore and damn annoying. I havent tried clomazepam as its hard to get but Im going to the docs on monday to try and get it again. We will see. I can live with my legs as they are now, but it is like living with a constant pain. and sucks when resting. Writing this message has sucked because ive sat here with restless legs really annoying me.
Point of this thread though is when i went cold turkey and did the bath every 5 minutes and the walk around the hourse for 6 hours a night until finally getting such sore legs they would allow me to sleep, to throwing up, getting the runs etc,
to my second attempt by my rules and my way, but dosing higher than I should. Im now on something like day 23 and life is normal. No pains and I have felt normal since day two, but restless legs are a problem but not like when you withdraw and have the pain. I didnt have the pain for most of the time.
Living the way you do like this makes you a depressed person in general and you just cant be stuffed doing anything. So If anyone decides to try it my way, you need a attitude and energy pick up and I drank daily a 'hairy lemon'. Similar to berocca. you know, a tablet you put in water and it dissolves to this fizzy drink to give you as bounce in your step. It's hard becoming a happy and oputgoing person and especially in a relatioonship, so make sure you have that pick me up in the morning. I have found from day 2 thaty ive been feeling awesom from 6am till about 3pm and thats when i just need to be on my own and left alone. pretty good though if you ask me as im getting there. The withdrawls I beat this time very easily, but the happiness and mindset is the one you got to watch out for as im guiessing its going to take time to build that back up.
In the mean time i purchased one of those wheels you sit on your knees and roll forward and then back up for ab muscles and back muscles, and a pro forma door pull up bard which can do 50 odd excercises as i am feeling if i strengthen my body back up that maybe my restless legs will go away or at least i wont feel so weak and crappy at 3-4+pm everyday as I do now.
After everything Ive read over the years, I believe my story is one that could help alot of people as i truley found an easy way and I was harecore into my opiates and benzos, but mainly opiates and coke, just never needles. I could not live a single day without 300mg of codine for many years and then it was 280mg of oxy a day i couldnt be without.
Today, am proud of where I am and I got here in a way that I would call easy as I seriously experienced none of the classic withdrawl symptoms that I know all too weel , just as most of you reading this do.
I wish you all the best. I dont know if my way is safe, but it worked. Maybe you dont want to take a whole 1mg of clonodine on the first night like i did, because i dont remember doing it, but it was a great sleep and it was the start of a painless withdrawl 23 odd days. Im sure my BP was in a very dangerous place though that night, but Im here today. Maybe just take 0.3 (3tablets) and go to bed, wake up and then see what you think you should do for day two. No point taking anything unless you feel yuou need it though on day two.
Good luck all and thanks for this forum
I STARTED getting hooked on Nurofen plus (ibuprofen 300mg? and 12.8mg Codine), because I had restless legs.
I had a tooth ache and was introduced to Nurofen Plus. 4 a day and no pain. So while learning Skydiving 15 years ago, I was taking 4 a day for at least a year. Worked a charm.
Once I stopped taking them and got my teeth fixed, I just didn't think of them again. Over the next year or two I would use them if I had any other teeth pain (wisdom etc) on the odd occassion.
Stopped using them again and then started kicking my legs around while trying to sleep. This started happening every night and was a big painful problem. Not Pain Pain, but strange pain.
So I started taking Nurofen plus again. 4 a day, lead to 6 a day, to 12, to 14 and before you know it over the past 8 years it built up to 15 first thing in the morning, to 15 again at night, then lead to 20-30 at once and for a couple of months i could be on 30-60 of these a day. I was on at least between 12 and 60 a day from 2009-last september.
I always read these forums for advice, but always found myself with new ways to get higher, mainly because i would come to read for support, but Id find new things to minimize my intake but get the higher feelings. I have always had a bad tendancy for living life like that, hence having 5000+ skydives and 672 Base jumps and more recently focused on proximity flying. Google Youtube Proximity Flying and watch the perfect line video. You will love it, I assure you.
Anyway, I went to an addiction to medicine clinic centre, and they couldnt detox me as an outpatient so they put me on oxycontin OC 80mg twice a day. That was magic. no pain, could taste food again and live life to the fullest and beyond.
Went through a few bottles of xanax without knowing it, blacking out and all that and realised i was getting into some really hard stuff and my interest was growing. I then realised it was getting harder and harder and very hard to get oxy, and then even hard to get the norspan patches i had been put on after oxy.
I then realised thinking every single day about how I will next get my next script when this one runs out, I just had to stop this crap. Mainly because doctos give it to you then take it away, then speak to other doctors at cancer balls, or fundraising dinners etc and they all talk about getting me on methadone.
So I thought I was going to go cold turkey. Got drunk first night, no worries. Lasted 4 days, and then went and bought 30 nurofen plus and scoffed them down.
After a few weeks of being a complete loser again I said to myself this was it, I'm never touching pain meds again.
So I went to an after hours clinic, because they are just so eager to help and prescribe what you say you need.
I asked for clonodine, and got 100 tablets of 0.1
Easy stuff to be prescribed when you tell them you want to go straight. Also got 20 5mg valium, but i wasnt bothered for those because no matter how many of them i have , they just give me a head ache from past experience.
First night I cant remember taking any meds, but I woke up with ten 0.1 clonodine tablets empty from the blister pack, and I had a great sleep and had no issues that day. I then read the label and took the suggested 1 tablet, three times a day. I went to a local GP, told him I was trying to get sober and he gave me a packet of 50 valium 5mg. , Another gp gave me 20 valium 5mg. I could not give a stuff about them, but i was trying to get clomazepam, and valium was what they would give me.
So this packet of 100 catapres tablets (clonodine) should have lasted 2 weeks. It lasted 10 days.
Probably went to the after hours clinic four times for blood pressure checks etc. on a good feeling day my BP was 86. That tells me the prior day it must have been around 60 because i would be falling and dizzy at all times.
Anyway, they wouldnt give me more clonodine, but prescribed me APPESE which is Roipinole, which is a Parkinsons disease drug and is also a restless legs drug.
From day two of my no more pain meds, I had no symptons, but a little bit of restless legs. So this appesse drug I used seemed to work. The dossage was 0.5 but i would take 2mg. I also got another packet of Colonodine 100.
First six days I ate nothing but two buckets of baskin and robins ice cream a day.
Here I am todayon day 23 or something like that with no withdrawls ever. No sweats, not even the runs. No hot and cold, no aches, and the chronik back pain i believed i had , I havent felt in these 23 days. guess I dont have back pain. Thats a bit strange but i put it down to withdrawl symptons and needing to redose the codine or the oxy. Must have been a sympton.
Restless legs is the worst sympton to live with that Ive ever experienced, and i havent had it for about 18 days, but now im on this lrestless leg drug appese, im getting restless legs when I am sitting down or relaxing, and getting it severe.
So I am trying not to have any meds at start of the day. In my arsenal is temazepam, which i havent touched, this appesse (roipinole)-(costs <snip - no med prices please> for 28 as not covered by govt), and clonodine.
So each day latley with guests over ive been walking around all day with no restless legs, but after 12ish hours, i am worn out, go home and the restless legs kick in badly. so im trying a different thing each day because i wonder if this appese stuff is actually doing it to me, or if lowering my BP with clonodine is giving me not enough BP in my legs, OR if I just suffer restless legs sydrome.
While addicted to opiates, I would always redose the moment i felt my legs tingle and if i didnt, within an hour i would be in the worst pain of my life with restless legs. Now though, I dont have it like that, but it is sore and damn annoying. I havent tried clomazepam as its hard to get but Im going to the docs on monday to try and get it again. We will see. I can live with my legs as they are now, but it is like living with a constant pain. and sucks when resting. Writing this message has sucked because ive sat here with restless legs really annoying me.
Point of this thread though is when i went cold turkey and did the bath every 5 minutes and the walk around the hourse for 6 hours a night until finally getting such sore legs they would allow me to sleep, to throwing up, getting the runs etc,
to my second attempt by my rules and my way, but dosing higher than I should. Im now on something like day 23 and life is normal. No pains and I have felt normal since day two, but restless legs are a problem but not like when you withdraw and have the pain. I didnt have the pain for most of the time.
Living the way you do like this makes you a depressed person in general and you just cant be stuffed doing anything. So If anyone decides to try it my way, you need a attitude and energy pick up and I drank daily a 'hairy lemon'. Similar to berocca. you know, a tablet you put in water and it dissolves to this fizzy drink to give you as bounce in your step. It's hard becoming a happy and oputgoing person and especially in a relatioonship, so make sure you have that pick me up in the morning. I have found from day 2 thaty ive been feeling awesom from 6am till about 3pm and thats when i just need to be on my own and left alone. pretty good though if you ask me as im getting there. The withdrawls I beat this time very easily, but the happiness and mindset is the one you got to watch out for as im guiessing its going to take time to build that back up.
In the mean time i purchased one of those wheels you sit on your knees and roll forward and then back up for ab muscles and back muscles, and a pro forma door pull up bard which can do 50 odd excercises as i am feeling if i strengthen my body back up that maybe my restless legs will go away or at least i wont feel so weak and crappy at 3-4+pm everyday as I do now.
After everything Ive read over the years, I believe my story is one that could help alot of people as i truley found an easy way and I was harecore into my opiates and benzos, but mainly opiates and coke, just never needles. I could not live a single day without 300mg of codine for many years and then it was 280mg of oxy a day i couldnt be without.
Today, am proud of where I am and I got here in a way that I would call easy as I seriously experienced none of the classic withdrawl symptoms that I know all too weel , just as most of you reading this do.
I wish you all the best. I dont know if my way is safe, but it worked. Maybe you dont want to take a whole 1mg of clonodine on the first night like i did, because i dont remember doing it, but it was a great sleep and it was the start of a painless withdrawl 23 odd days. Im sure my BP was in a very dangerous place though that night, but Im here today. Maybe just take 0.3 (3tablets) and go to bed, wake up and then see what you think you should do for day two. No point taking anything unless you feel yuou need it though on day two.
Good luck all and thanks for this forum
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.. Thank you for the story and welcome to BL.. That is an amazing accomplishment and I hope your success motivates others to get to where you are at. Just, please consider that the acute withdraws are the easy part for most addicts and maintaining sobriety after a period of "pink clouding" it is the real battle. All the best in your new found sobriety
On that note I would highly discourage the abuse of clonidine to try and facilitate an easier withdraw, dangerous and dumb.
