Debunking the Drug War

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America has a serious drug problem, but it's not the "meth epidemic" getting so much publicity. It's the problem identified by William Bennett, the former national drug czar and gambler.

"Using drugs," he wrote, "is wrong not simply because drugs create medical problems; it is wrong because drugs destroy one's moral sense. People addicted to drugs neglect their duties."

This problem afflicts a small minority of the people who have tried methamphetamines, but most of the law-enforcement officials and politicians who lead the war against drugs. They're so consumed with drugs that they've lost sight of their duties.

Like addicts desperate for a high, they've declared meth the new crack, which was once called the new heroin (that title now belongs to OxyContin). With the help of the press, they're once again frightening the public with tales of a drug so seductive it instantly turns masses of upstanding citizens into addicts who ruin their health, their lives and their families.

Amphetamines can certainly do harm and are a fad in some places. But there's little evidence of a new national epidemic from patterns of drug arrests or drug use. The percentage of high school seniors using amphetamines has remained fairly constant in the past decade, and actually declined slightly the past two years.

Nor is meth diabolically addictive. If an addict is someone who has used a drug in the previous month (a commonly used, if overly broad, definition), then only 5 percent of Americans who have sampled meth would be called addicts, according to the federal government's National Survey on Drug Use and Health.

That figure is slightly higher than the addiction rate for people who have sampled heroin (3 percent), but it's lower than for crack (8 percent), painkillers (10 percent), marijuana (15 percent) or cigarettes (37 percent). Among people who have sampled alcohol, 60 percent had a drink the previous month, and 27 percent went on a binge (defined as five drinks on one occasion) during the month.

Drug warriors point to the dangers of home-cooked meth labs, which start fires and create toxic waste. But those labs and the burn victims are a result of the drug war itself.

Amphetamine pills were easily available, sold over the counter until the 1950's, then routinely prescribed by doctors to patients who wanted to lose weight or stay awake. It was only after the authorities cracked down in the 1970's that many people turned to home labs, criminal gangs and more dangerous ways of ingesting the drug.

It's the same pattern observed during Prohibition, when illicit stills would blow up, and there was a rise in deaths from alcohol poisoning. Far from instilling virtue in Americans, Prohibition caused them to switch from beer and wine to hard liquor. Overall consumption of alcohol might even have increased.

Today we tolerate alcohol, even though it causes far more harm than illegal drugs, because we realize a ban would be futile, create more problems than it cured and deprive too many people of something they value.

Amphetamines have benefits, too, which is why Air Force pilots are given them. "Most people took amphetamines responsibly when they were freely available," said Jacob Sullum, the author of "Saying Yes," a book debunking drug scares. "Like most drugs, their benefits outweigh the costs for most people. I'd rather be driving next to a truck driver on speed than a truck driver who's falling sleep."

Shutting down every meth lab in America wouldn't eliminate meth because most of it is imported, but the police and prosecutors have escalated their efforts anyway and inflicted more collateral damage.

In Georgia they're prosecuting dozens of Indian convenience-store clerks and managers for selling cold medicine and other legal products. As Kate Zernike reported in The Times, some of them spoke little English and seemed to have no idea the medicine was being used to make meth.

The prosecutors seem afflicted by the confused moral thinking that Mr. Bennett blames on narcotics. "Drugs," he wrote, "undermine the necessary virtues of a free society - autonomy, self-reliance and individual responsibility."

If you value individual responsibility, why send a hard-working clerk to jail for not divining that someone else might manufacture a drug? And why spend three decades repeating the errors of Prohibition for a drug that was never as dangerous as alcohol in the first place?

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Debunking the Drug War
By JOHN TIERNEY
Published: August 9, 2005

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Nor is meth diabolically addictive. If an addict is someone who has used a drug in the previous month (a commonly used, if overly broad, definition), then only 5 percent of Americans who have sampled meth would be called addicts, according to the federal government's National Survey on Drug Use and Health.

That figure is slightly higher than the addiction rate for people who have sampled heroin (3 percent), but it's lower than for crack (8 percent), painkillers (10 percent), marijuana (15 percent) or cigarettes (37 percent). Among people who have sampled alcohol, 60 percent had a drink the previous month, and 27 percent went on a binge (defined as five drinks on one occasion) during the month.

The problem with using this data to observe the percentage of meth addicts is that the people who are more likley to be addicts are also much less likley to be targeted for this survey which leads to inaccurate data and i guess that the government is just to ignorant to let the public know this when the figures are released. I mean how can someone possibly say that pot is more addictive than meth?
 
^I know more people who have used meth and pot on a regular basis and are "addicted to pot" (though thats arguable) but not meth rather then visa versa... but not sure what the facts are.
 
Fuck man. Damn near every recreational drug user would be considered an addict according to this shit. If youve used a certain drug in the past month? Thats like nearly half the population (if you count alcohol/tobacco)
 
Don't forget caffeine - it's a stimulant too! A mild one in small doses, but if you take enough it can be very harmful to your health. People don't seem to realise that.
 
Raw Evil said:
Don't forget caffeine - it's a stimulant too! A mild one in small doses, but if you take enough it can be very harmful to your health. People don't seem to realise that.

caffeine is the only psychoactive substance that has zero regulation!
 
"Using drugs," he wrote, "is wrong not simply because drugs create medical problems; it is wrong because drugs destroy one's moral sense. People addicted to drugs neglect their duties."

What duties does he speak of?

1) Obsessive/compulsive consumerism?
2) WORK WORK WORK
3) TAXES TAXES TAXES
4) Continuation of the status quo social structure.
 
"Drug warriors point to the dangers of home-cooked meth labs, which start fires and create toxic waste. "

hm.... toxic waste.... we should outlaw suv's and big industry!
 
What message would we be sending to our children if we were soft on drugs?????


THE CHILDREN PEOPLE THE CHILDREN 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
 
^^^ perhaps that you should not blindly believe everything the government states is fact?
 
Well I agree with this article in some ways but not in others. If this guy is trying to say meth isnt "that serious, its not too addictive" then hes just fucking retarded. Yes, I totally agree the laws only make it worse, but just because it makes a bad situation worse doesnt mean its a bad situation to begin with. I'm sick of everyone blaming the laws for all their fucking problems. Sometimes drugs actually do fuck you up in the head and make you do dumb shit, and yeah you may think "oh well I'm a responsible user it wont hurt me", and I thought the same thing because I used responsibly. Until all the sudden, your strung out on coke for 5 days and your robbing houses, bong shops, and schools to get more money to buy it. I dont know I'm just pissed off at all the bullshit right now, I go to bluelight to kind of get away from everyones fucked up thinking, and so I just get dissapointed when I see people thinking like morons on here too. Not saying you cant have your opinion but thinking meth and shit isnt all that bad is just straight up stupid.
 
First yeah i was sarcastic, I thought the eyes made it pretty obvious :D


To the poster above. I feel like the psychology behind drug use is simple.

-People Like To Do Drugs- Some people will just continue to use drugs no matter what type of laws are in place. This is such a deep human impulse that it is seriously IMPOSSIBLE TO FIGHT. I don't think there has ever been a human culture that did not enjoy thier drugs whether it be mushrooms, alcohol, salvia, ayahuasca... There has always been something. It's human nature to want to alter consciousness.

now given the fact that people will do these drugs regardless of laws look at what you wrote

Until all the sudden, your strung out on coke for 5 days and your robbing houses, bong shops, and schools to get more money to buy it.

What if you were able to purchase government quality cocaine, pure, safe, and the amount of active drug clearly printed on the lable for say about the price of a pack of ciggarettes. The govt would tax the sale of cocaine so they could have an extra income, and you wouldn't have to steal all that shit because now suddenly cocaine is extremely affordable.

I really don't see meth being bad. I really dont. A drug is a completely benign substance, not good or bad. It is up to the user to be resonsible for the health of thier own body and mind

and shouldn't it be that way? Shouldn't we be the one who is in control of what we get to put in our bodies? Why do we have this government trying to play our parents?
 
I love a good article written by an ignorant non-drug user, always good for laughs and lashings of the old . . . . .
 
Ok Ok I was reading it quick at work. now that I take a second look I guess I missed it.:o
 
psilocybe said:
First yeah i was sarcastic, I thought the eyes made it pretty obvious :D


To the poster above. I feel like the psychology behind drug use is simple.

-People Like To Do Drugs- Some people will just continue to use drugs no matter what type of laws are in place. This is such a deep human impulse that it is seriously IMPOSSIBLE TO FIGHT. I don't think there has ever been a human culture that did not enjoy thier drugs whether it be mushrooms, alcohol, salvia, ayahuasca... There has always been something. It's human nature to want to alter consciousness.

now given the fact that people will do these drugs regardless of laws look at what you wrote



What if you were able to purchase government quality cocaine, pure, safe, and the amount of active drug clearly printed on the lable for say about the price of a pack of ciggarettes. The govt would tax the sale of cocaine so they could have an extra income, and you wouldn't have to steal all that shit because now suddenly cocaine is extremely affordable.

I really don't see meth being bad. I really dont. A drug is a completely benign substance, not good or bad. It is up to the user to be resonsible for the health of thier own body and mind

and shouldn't it be that way? Shouldn't we be the one who is in control of what we get to put in our bodies? Why do we have this government trying to play our parents?

I already stated I think that laws are only making the situation worse. And although I think legalizing cocaine (like meth) would definitely make things not as bad, being addicted to cocaine isnt exactly going to be good for you just because it becomes legalized. Alcohol is legal, and look at how many alcoholics fucked up their lives because of the bottle....I'm not trying to come out here like a DARE program and say "DRUGS ARE BAD!", I mean yeah they can certainly be used responsibly...but acting like we will no longer have any problems with drugs because we legalize them is just ridiculous and ignorant. And obviously, drugs arent actually bad, they are inanimate objects. However, they can definitely cause you to do bad things, and if you say "Oh well I dont see meth as being that bad", maybe you dont see it, but I have experience that just tells me otherwise. And although the draconian laws make everything ten times worse dont think for a second if you start doing meth your life will always be bright and happy. For alot of people, they do it here and there with no problems. But for alot of other people, they do it and not long after their whole life starts going to shit. And you may say "well if I use it responsibly I'll be okay", but before anyone starts doing it, they plan on using responsibly - but drugs can be alot more powerful than you are (as you stated the impulse to do drugs can be impossible to fight) and can change your personality in an irregular heartbeat.
 
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Real_Illusion,

People who are going to misuse recreational drugs are going to misuse them no matter if they are legal or illegal. And what is worse: a guy sitting at home wasting his life away doing drugs, or the guy sitting in prison convicted on drug charges wasting his life away on 10 to 20 years?

About 8% of the total population which uses meth ends up screwed up. Those are the ones you are talking about, and that everyone and their brother knows.

According to Health Canada, at the present time over 1% of the world's population has tried methamphetamine at least once uin their lifetime. Yet the number of people whose lives have been ruined by it are far lower than that number. The number of "meth-o-holics" in the meth using population is about on par with the number of alcoholics in the alcohol using population (roughly < 8%). And I am convinced that this group of disfunctionals is due to genetic factors.

If people want to use drugs and do not impact your life by doing so, it is none of your business if they are messing up their life or not. And if you'd read the article again, meth was not a problem until it became restricted. If you had a problem with it, that is YOUR problem. Learn from it, stay away from it, but don't use yourself as everyone else's post-child. Because it just isn't the case.

People have a right to make choices which effect their lives. Even if those choices adversily effect their lives. Who are you to say what they should and should not do? And if you really feel that you must impose your values of self regulation on others, then you should consider that there are billions of christians and muslims who would just love to impose their personal values on your life.

Until we can get out of this arrogant mindset that "we" know what is best for everyone else, we will continue to be nothing more than a bunch of wannabee slave masters.
 
Real_Illusion said:
Until all the sudden, your strung out on coke for 5 days and your robbing houses, bong shops, and schools to get more money to buy it.

The way I see it, prohibition only has a negative influence on the scenario you have just described.

Prohibition did not stop you from being strung out on coke for 5 days, but it did create a need for you to rob houses, shops etc. to get money.

Legalization would not stop you from being strung out on coke either, but it would eliminate your need to get money.

I, and many others in favor of legalization, are not saying it would solve all problems concerning drugs, but it would eliminate the majority of problems that society currently believes are caused by drugs when they infact are caused by prohibition.

Furthermore, most people in favor of prohibiton usually believe that alcohol and cigarettes should remain legal. This seems absurd to me since the very properties with which the prohibitonists use to justify a continued criminalization of drugs, are shared by both alcohol and cigarettes. From a prohibitonist, there is no rational argument that justifies the exclusion of alcohol and cigarettes from being prohibited just as drugs are.

Some argue that alcohol is not as addictive as heroin or cocaine but they have no reliable data proving this since a study representing reality is very hard to do when people have to admit criminal activity in order to answer the study truthfully.
 
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