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Death, your views?

I'm ultimately optimistic

Even though I question things and often have doubts, I still am more optimistic than most of you here. Though I think it's possible that we go out like a candle, I also think it's just as possible that we will enter into a new phase of life after this one. We may keep evolving forever.

I understand that when we are conceived, our fetus starts out as like an amoeba; then it grows into something like a shrimp then a reptile, then a cow, then a pig, then a human. If you look at fetuses in their very early development, the fetus's face almost resemsbles a pig's. Likewise, as we go through life, we grow spiritually and at death we may evolve into a higher form of being which is beyond our comprehension here.

But if I were to venture a guess, it would then be as though we were all ages at once. We'd then be living in a dimension no longer restricted by time and space. Check this out!! :) http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

We'd be able to communicate instantaneously and simultaneously through thought transfer. There would no longer be the misunderstandings caused by language and cultural differences. This would also mean that it would be harder to tell a white lie; but communication woudl be beyond the need for verbal language. Thoughts and emotions and even memories could be shared telepathically. I could imagine that though constructs could also be shared such as conjuring up memories of a shared favourite place or even entering into each other's memories, like watching videos in 3D.

On this earth, we are indeed individuals already; but we are tied in that we are someone's daughter or son; or sibling; or parent or aunt/uncle or grandparent; we are inevitably labelled by how we speak and look to others. Consequently, we are categorised based things such as class, race, gender and age. We are percieved as being a product of what we come from. But in the next world, I would imagine that our true individuality would spew forth. We would truly become who we really are on the inside. This could be a double edged sword. Both darkness and light would be revealed as well as what (and whom) a person loves.

Even here, I can often sense a person's aura and what they're about; in the next dimension, this will be much easier to do. I can often sense even here if someone is arty or cultured or into nature, or if they are kind or violent (or especially dark). This would be far more obvious in the next world. People would thus gradually find their own level because they'd gravitate towards others on a similar wavelength.

I don't think things would be handed to people on silver platters over there, but they would be able to develop abilities such as creating music and learning to work with their hands or to learn a sport. It would be up to them to make the effort to learn the new skill or whatever, but they'd no longer be restrained by economic, health or time constraints.

I would love to think that there would be lovemaking over there too, but that it would be more a sharing of feelings and thoughts --- more of a soul merging than merely a carnal act, though a bit of that could be welcome too!

I've been intrigued by the story 'Jonathan Livingston Seagull' and of how he wanted to fly higher and faster than any birds but that his flock disowned him because they thought he was a drop out. He dies and goes into another world which resembles earth in many ways but where he enjoyed more freedom to develop as an individual. He dies again and goes to yet an even higher realm.

I see no reason why we may not die again in this next realm and go on ad-finitum.

I deep down sense that we are part of a wondrous adventure and journey and that death is almost certainly not the end, though of course I question things and have my doubts from time to time like everyone else.

I also think that awareness/conciousness might be like being on a particular radio frequency that can be shifted slightly when we're tripping, having a very intense experience (such as involving extreme sports), or travelling, or when getting very sick and possibly close to death. I've even experienced this phenemenon from the vibrations that other people give off; some people are very uplifting while others drag me down, almost like vampires.

Our frequency can shift as subtly as the many thin layers of an onion. This is why when I'm on a positive frequency, I experience positive interpretations and also draw positive energy and experiences back to me; I also think that people near death can sometimes live in two worlds at once and be simultaneously aware of this world, as well as sensing the presence of loved ones who have passed over.

I'm inclined to be more optimistic that there is more to this life than we can understand. I really do believe that love is a true force that is even beyond emotion.

I would think there's still be lessons to be learned there too; people there might have to experience a second form of death eventually which would still involve a form of sorrow and separation from those left behind in that next dimension from ours here; they might then evolve into an even higher form of life in yet another higher dimension.
 
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Mona Lisa said:
I understand that when we are conceived, our fetus starts out as like an amoeba; then it grows into something like a shrimp then a reptile, then a cow, then a pig, then a human. If you look at fetuses in their very early development, the fetus's face almost resemsbles a pig's. Likewise, as we go through life, we grow spiritually and at death we may evolve into a higher form of being which is beyond our comprehension here.

Just a samll nitpick, but you're refering to Haeckel's idea of "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" which has since been disproven.
 
Why would you do DMT before death? Your body (theoretically) will homogeneously release it upon this kind of event..

Death is an end and a beginning of more cycles.. don't sweat it. Has no one else died while dreaming?
 
StagnantReaction said:
Why would you do DMT before death? Your body (theoretically) will homogeneously release it upon this kind of event..

That's what I was talking about. I wasn't planning on smoking it, just tripping on DMT as part of the natural process of death.
 
"you" or "i" don't really exist in the first place, egos are merely the mediums through which we interpret our perceptions. so in death, perception ends, and that's it. our energy doesn't die though, since it cannot...just reenters the cycle.

i don't know if i'm afraid of death. i'm content with where i am, being alive, and having a perception, so i don't want to die. but i know that if i were put in a threatening situation, my mind and body would react in fear to protect myself from death. i don't really see the point in battling that reaction specifically merely for the sake of not fearing death...but if i can come to a new perception that develops in a way that i no longer have that fearful reaction, then that's fine with me.
 
I still think that there is a loving source. When I was 20, I was away at university and had a sudden urge to go to sleep; I sort of fell into a trance and saw my dead grandfather who gave me the specific message that he had come back to keep an eye on my mother until she was better and that once she was Ok, he would be 'going back to where he was'. It was a specific message he was giving me.

I was suddenly awoken by a telephone call from my father, telling me that she had been in a terrible bicycle accident and that she was in a coma with a fractured skull, collapsed lung, broken collarbone and ribs. She was unconcious for about three days and in a delirium for almost three weeks. She was referring to her dead parents in the present tense as if they were around her. I actually think it's quite possible that they were around in spirit, protecting her, just as my dead grandfather was relaying in the dream...

The thing was, that when I had this dream, I was 200 miles away and was not yet aware that she had been in this terrible accident. I had the dream about an hour after the accident happened and was being told in no uncertain terms that she was being protected until she was better. In other words, my late grandfather was specifically telling me that she was going to pull through. I would suggest that this would point towards there being some other dimension that our loved ones live in after they die.
 
Consiousness never dies, time and space are temporary our time on earth is a limited learning experience we are chooseing to be here, when we die we wake up from the dream, death is one of the greatest experiences we can have because its when we return to our bare essense.
 
Consiousness never dies, time and space are temporary our time on earth is a limited learning experience we are chooseing to be here, when we die we wake up from the dream, death is one of the greatest experiences we can have because its when we return to our bare essense.

yea, right. more likely is that it's just O V E R.

try pushing a fork up your nose into your brain. twist it a little. a little more. experience how your personality and consciousness will change and (with a few more twists of the fork) self-destruct.... this is FACT, just watch people with brain diseases or after accidents. and you think once you die, once your brain completely shuts down, you'll suddenly "wake up from the dream" and your "bare essence" will return. it doesn't sound very probable to me.
 
^thats because if we have a mental diesease or we push a fork up our nose of coase we are going to get fucked up because our brains are operateing on a physical level when you die your not operateing on the physical level!!!. All your brain is, is a radio receiver connected to the universal mind so you can operate in the physical realm. Read some experiences from this website http://www.near-death.com some of these people had been proved clinically dead a come back to tell the story and all of them are pretty much the same and also realte to alot of what people experience when tripping.
 
check out the season one dvd box set of twin peaks and watch the actor "post cards". The man with one arm recounts the event that led him to lose the arm with a fascinating NDE.
 
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