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Frumious Bandersnatch
Greetings,
As a male, I've always had fleshy breast or "bitch tits." Never been fat, was chubby for a year as a kid and have become a little overweight over since getting off heroin. So, well, not quite bitch tits level, but unusual/abnormal for a healthy individual my age. I've never been what I'd call skinny either.
Up until about 5 months ago I maintain good eating habits and a somewhat minimal but adequate exercise routine. During the last five months my diet has deteriorated, I've been depressed (although Suboxone maint helps deal with this and anxiety to make it presently a non-issue) and had very very little exercise (walks around the neighborhood - 4 to 12 shortish walks per day and that's basically it).
For a period of about 5 or 6 months while first getting settled into my Suboxone maintenance program I (a)used Tagamet/Cimetidine to potentiate and get high off my Bupe. Generally I used an average of 1g over the course the day - occasionally less but often more, especially during the first couple months, to get a serious buzz off my 8-12mg of Suboxone. Since learning about possible negative side effects and then beginning to experience their beginnings, over the last four or five months I've been taking less Tagamet less frequently (400-600mg every other day, more often one or two days a week tops). I continue to use Tagamet infrequently but am looking for alternatives with fewer/less/no (I can dream) side effects.
During this last four-five month period I've notice growth in the flesh on my chest/breasts/bitch tits. My nipples, while not itchy, seem almost inflamed and certainly enlarged. Much more prominent than they've ever been, and this change corresponds directly to my Tagamet abuse. Now, I am starting to exercise (jogging a couple hours per day and eat healthily again (I favor spinach, broccoli, citrus, fibers rich unprocessed grains and unprocessed Kosher/Halal lean meats). This has only been going on for maybe 10 days, but it's already starting to make me feel better.
Short of the Suboxone (max 8mg/day, but more often 2mg two to three times a day) I take no other drugs or medication other than Diphenhydramine (50-150mg day daily), Trazadone (probably once a month @ 50-100mg or hypothetically max of 150-200mg) and Melatonin (nightly @ 5mg, rarely 10mg). I will probably start taking Piracetam again in the near future as it provides me with significant benefits in terms of concentration, patience and depression/anxiety (this was key in detoxing from opioids and being clean for a month before getting on Suboxone maint and will again be when I taper off Suboxone). I'm about two months into not smoking cannabis and I very rarely have a drink (when I do it's one or two - if there is anything I hate it's being sloppy drunk and the hangover next day). I smoke 5-15 cigarettes daily, average probably 8/day. I drink a good amount of tea (almost exclusively Earl Gray and Hojicha/Green teas) and drink coffee two-three times a week @ two cups max.
My questions are many:
Getting back to my regular healthy eating habits will absolutely have a positive effect - probably the most significant. Nearly just as importantly will be getting exercise! I am not convinced I will necessarily need any kind of crazy treatment under a doctor's care, but I want to get in touch with one so they can monitor my improvement. I seem to have caught this in it's beginning stages, where things have just become noticeable. But I am scared (and hence motivated partially by fear, oh well) what will happen if I continued on my course of over-abuse of Tagamet, poor diet and lack of exercise, like...
Other than an increase in the size my my chest/breasts the only other effects I've notice have been a moodiness verging on oversensitivity/overreacting, but I can keep this in check at present condition. Once I recognized it I have been able to deal with and kind of reverse it to my normal patient, understand and empathetical mindset.
Thankfully I still have a strong (healthy/normal) libido, still no problem achieving orgasm, no ED, really just the tits are what is bothering me. Other than genetically high cholesterol and opioid addiction I have no current health problems. Well, none other than growing bitch tits, hyperactive (but controllable) emotional sensitivity and poor self imagine after having gained about 15-25lbs. Originally 165lbs @ 6' --> now 185 @ 6'1". Being 25 years old it's odd that I gained an inch in the last year or two, but whatever...
Self image can be a bitch in recovery/treatment of my dope habit, but the small changes I've made even in the last couple weeks have been a big help. And looking forward to taking certain actions geared to achieving my goals as described here is great in itself too.
Thanks in advance for all your help! I know next to notion about testosterone/estrogen/hormone or conditions like gynecomastia, but I am learning.
EDIT: Oh, and obviously stopping Tagamet will help. Will stopping taking it along with proper diet and exercise likely correct the current problem? How long might that take if it would?
Just because in truth I do enjoy the Tagamet+Bupe buzz quite fondly, is there any ways to enjoy it while avoiding possible Gynecomastia? That being so it sure isn't worth going boobs!
Thanks again!!!!
As a male, I've always had fleshy breast or "bitch tits." Never been fat, was chubby for a year as a kid and have become a little overweight over since getting off heroin. So, well, not quite bitch tits level, but unusual/abnormal for a healthy individual my age. I've never been what I'd call skinny either.
Up until about 5 months ago I maintain good eating habits and a somewhat minimal but adequate exercise routine. During the last five months my diet has deteriorated, I've been depressed (although Suboxone maint helps deal with this and anxiety to make it presently a non-issue) and had very very little exercise (walks around the neighborhood - 4 to 12 shortish walks per day and that's basically it).
For a period of about 5 or 6 months while first getting settled into my Suboxone maintenance program I (a)used Tagamet/Cimetidine to potentiate and get high off my Bupe. Generally I used an average of 1g over the course the day - occasionally less but often more, especially during the first couple months, to get a serious buzz off my 8-12mg of Suboxone. Since learning about possible negative side effects and then beginning to experience their beginnings, over the last four or five months I've been taking less Tagamet less frequently (400-600mg every other day, more often one or two days a week tops). I continue to use Tagamet infrequently but am looking for alternatives with fewer/less/no (I can dream) side effects.
During this last four-five month period I've notice growth in the flesh on my chest/breasts/bitch tits. My nipples, while not itchy, seem almost inflamed and certainly enlarged. Much more prominent than they've ever been, and this change corresponds directly to my Tagamet abuse. Now, I am starting to exercise (jogging a couple hours per day and eat healthily again (I favor spinach, broccoli, citrus, fibers rich unprocessed grains and unprocessed Kosher/Halal lean meats). This has only been going on for maybe 10 days, but it's already starting to make me feel better.
Short of the Suboxone (max 8mg/day, but more often 2mg two to three times a day) I take no other drugs or medication other than Diphenhydramine (50-150mg day daily), Trazadone (probably once a month @ 50-100mg or hypothetically max of 150-200mg) and Melatonin (nightly @ 5mg, rarely 10mg). I will probably start taking Piracetam again in the near future as it provides me with significant benefits in terms of concentration, patience and depression/anxiety (this was key in detoxing from opioids and being clean for a month before getting on Suboxone maint and will again be when I taper off Suboxone). I'm about two months into not smoking cannabis and I very rarely have a drink (when I do it's one or two - if there is anything I hate it's being sloppy drunk and the hangover next day). I smoke 5-15 cigarettes daily, average probably 8/day. I drink a good amount of tea (almost exclusively Earl Gray and Hojicha/Green teas) and drink coffee two-three times a week @ two cups max.
My questions are many:
- Do my symptoms seem to be the early stages of Gynecomastia?
- How does one deal with Gynecomastia, as caused through my abuse of Tagamet, poor diet and lack of exercise?
- What kind of doctor or specialist should I seek out?
- Is it possible to reverse the Gynecomastia (or like effects) I've noticed?
- What are some treatment?
- What, in terms of exercise, nutrition and supplements/OTCs can I do to promote recovery/treatment?
- I don't intent to actually pursue them unless absolutely necessary, but are there any quasi/not-so-legal treatments (testosterone?)?*
Getting back to my regular healthy eating habits will absolutely have a positive effect - probably the most significant. Nearly just as importantly will be getting exercise! I am not convinced I will necessarily need any kind of crazy treatment under a doctor's care, but I want to get in touch with one so they can monitor my improvement. I seem to have caught this in it's beginning stages, where things have just become noticeable. But I am scared (and hence motivated partially by fear, oh well) what will happen if I continued on my course of over-abuse of Tagamet, poor diet and lack of exercise, like...
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Other than an increase in the size my my chest/breasts the only other effects I've notice have been a moodiness verging on oversensitivity/overreacting, but I can keep this in check at present condition. Once I recognized it I have been able to deal with and kind of reverse it to my normal patient, understand and empathetical mindset.
Thankfully I still have a strong (healthy/normal) libido, still no problem achieving orgasm, no ED, really just the tits are what is bothering me. Other than genetically high cholesterol and opioid addiction I have no current health problems. Well, none other than growing bitch tits, hyperactive (but controllable) emotional sensitivity and poor self imagine after having gained about 15-25lbs. Originally 165lbs @ 6' --> now 185 @ 6'1". Being 25 years old it's odd that I gained an inch in the last year or two, but whatever...
Self image can be a bitch in recovery/treatment of my dope habit, but the small changes I've made even in the last couple weeks have been a big help. And looking forward to taking certain actions geared to achieving my goals as described here is great in itself too.
Thanks in advance for all your help! I know next to notion about testosterone/estrogen/hormone or conditions like gynecomastia, but I am learning.
EDIT: Oh, and obviously stopping Tagamet will help. Will stopping taking it along with proper diet and exercise likely correct the current problem? How long might that take if it would?
Just because in truth I do enjoy the Tagamet+Bupe buzz quite fondly, is there any ways to enjoy it while avoiding possible Gynecomastia? That being so it sure isn't worth going boobs!
Thanks again!!!!
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